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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 14:04 GMT
#678
On August 09 2016 23:01 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 22:58 disformation wrote:
okay sweetheart, prolly last attempt to reason with you, cause your attitude is horrible and I might make as much progress when talking to a wall.
On August 09 2016 18:13 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:45 disformation wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 09 2016 17:11 disformation wrote:
It is like you are refusing to take responsibility for your filter/past actions. Which screams scum to me.


The simple fact is it was obvious Kush wasn't mafia. I told you and I'll reiterate:

I voted on you like 20 hours before deadline because not voting is mafia indicative. I just refused to lynch a townie.

I'm the best looking townie in the game, there is nothing you can say about it.

If there is someone you should be pressuring it is damdred and Vix they look super scummy.

I also still think mafia tried to save you.

Yes, Disinformation/Damdred/Vix look very appealing.




If you think kush was obv town then you have TMI.
You are also admitting that a no-lynch would have been better than the kush lynch?
I agree on Vivax. Have to reread Damdred.


Are you of the opinion lynching townies is good?

And don't tell me it was because you wanted to "gain" information it was day one.

What the hell is TMI?


TMI means too much information. Basically since Scum knows the alignment of everyone in the game, they sometimes do stuff like super hard TR one person, not really defend them and then pretend to be super towny for having know that a person was town while having done nothing to prevent the lynch.
kinda sounds familiar somehow, but I cant put my finger on it...

also no idea where your "read" on damdred comes from. i think it is as good as your "read" on me. hint: not very good.
if you want to scumread everyone voting kush, you have 9 scummers this game. gl.


I already answered this. He was saving his vote without reason and I specifically asked him why, at least read the filter as you claim.

also no idea where your "read" on damdred comes from. i think it is as good as your "read" on me. hint: not very good.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 14:11 GMT
#679
Currently no fucking clue of what to make of luna, will sheep TW/Damdy on that.
HF also prolly town, btw.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 16:08 GMT
#691
mh. kinda forgot grack is in this game. so i kinda like mdergs point on that.

can get onboard with the GB lynch. esp if he continues to do jack + reasons already in mah filtah.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 16:08 GMT
#692
also leaving work in a few. cu guys laterz.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 17:27 GMT
#696
Mh. I think I like grack more than GB, Stutters, Vivax and prolly SL.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 17:28 GMT
#697
hm. maybe @ SL. Really hit or miss.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 17:44 GMT
#698
bleh. shape also had a really strange posts around eod. -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 18:42 GMT
#703
The last time I started using names for someone was when I had a nice TvT battle with MoosyDoosy imo. So there might be something to this.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 19:44 GMT
#723
@Tumble:
small question: what made you say this:
On August 09 2016 06:59 Tumblewood wrote:
kush flips town I know it
...but, it's better than nothing

Timestamps unfortunately don't help me discern if you saw him post this just before:
On August 09 2016 06:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Wow shapelog is actually doubting the randomness of my rng lynch..


And even then I am not entirely sure what you saw there.

Also working on a wall, so stay tuned folks!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:17 GMT
#728
Final Vote Count - Day 1


nnn_thekushmountains (9): Grackaroni, Stutters695, Shapelog, Grackaroni, Damdred, disformation, mderg, Tumblewood, Vivax, Holyflare
disformation (3): GlowingBear, nnn_thekushmountains, Grackaroni, Lunaticman
Grackaroni (1): Tumblewood, disformation, sicklucker, mderg, disformation
GlowingBear (0): Holyflare, disformation, Tumblewood
Lunaticman (0): Holyflare, disformation, disformation, mderg


PPL off the kush wagon

luna
parks his vote on a not really relevant wagon. Since it looked very long like we won't get a lynch at all I would call that anti-town at best. his constant and most stubborn refusal to move the vote is probably coming from town though. -.-

GB
Votes me very early in the game. At least tries to get some ppl on my wagon. But leaves his vote on a not really relevant wagon and gtfos. Might be trying to cause a no lynch. damn scummy.

SL
On grack:
On August 08 2016 17:58 sicklucker wrote:
acualy its way too similar. just gonna park my vote on him and call it a cycle

On me when I am lunatic:
On August 09 2016 05:11 sicklucker wrote:
oh ok maybe you can die then

Then:
On August 09 2016 06:12 sicklucker wrote:
Honestly lynching is always better then no lynching and im not sure any of the wagons are town like I usually am in this spot. So ill be putting whoevers leading over the top if it comes to it even lunatic

His vote never leaves grack. He never votes me. He never explains his super tr on luna? Super confusing stuff. Though SL being super confusing is not necessarily AI. Still he DID leave his vote on a dead wagon. Might be also trying to split votes.


Conclusion: At least 1 scum not being on the kush wagon would make a lot of sense. Scum generally wants to avoid to being packed to tight onto one wagon, plus a no lynch is greatly beneficial to them. With the chaos at EoD I can see that being a plan. That means at least one of GB, Luna and SL is scum. With respect of my general reads that is probably GB.



PPL on the kush wagon

Vivax
Does nothing all day. Votes as 8th person for kush for no reason. gftos. damn scummy.

Stutters
Vores kush pretty early. Talks a tiny bit about luna and GB, but overall doesn't seem very invested/interested in the lynch. Was okay-ish with a luna lynch, didn't like a GB lynch. Slightly scummy.

Shape
Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.

Grack
Has the weird interaction with kush. Decides kush is scum, despite liking the random vote. has the interaction with me, votes me.
Says he can wait a day on kush and then comes back later and likes the kush wagon the most:
On August 09 2016 05:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Kush is definitely my favorite lynch of the bunch right now.

Also asks HF to join the Kush wagon:
On August 09 2016 05:39 Grackaroni wrote:
You ready to get on the Kush wagon HF?

So from a VCA standpoint I see no problems here.

Damdred
Likes a Luna or Kush lynch. Dislikes the Grack and disf wagons. Decides on kush, cause meta. Willing to vote GB, but wants to make sure there is a lynch. Also no complaints here.

mderg
Starts liking a Grack lynch over a luna lynch. Likes further points being brought up against luna, likes points on grack being town, so switches to Luna. In my experience the willingness to reevaluate reads is more likely to come from town. Dislikes the GB train and consolidates on kush, when TW's plan kicks in. Should post more though, it is hard to follow his reads sometimes.

tumble
After disliking my opening he scumreads grack and kush. with his preferred lynch being grack. trs kush. more firm on his grack scum read. tone reads luna town.
has a plan to save the lynch:
On August 09 2016 06:33 Tumblewood wrote:
I say that 10 minutes before deadline we all consolidate on whoever has the most votes.
did you hear that?
I say, 10 minutes before deadline we all consolidate on whoever has the most votes.

has a huge lynch pool:
On August 09 2016 06:39 Tumblewood wrote:
literally no one has left my scum pool yet
GB, vivax, stutters, shape, grack is my preferred lynch pool.

Briefly joins HF (who he TRs) on GB (in his lynch pool) and then returns to kush according to his plan. Contribution to town agenda and seems to care about the lynch.

HF
Decides to dislike the luna lynch. Creates the GB wagon. Consolidates on kush and seems to be legit disappointed by the lynch outcome. So tonally I'd say he cares.



Conclusion
Does anyone have some of those town tells?
Unfortunately not much new. Though I am a bit more relaxed on Grack now and like Shape a bit less.

Random side note: should GB flip red (as I think he will) we might want to look into the ppl disliking the GB wagon.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#729
Not sure if position on a wagon and timing of votes can be an as good factor as in plurality lynches, and frankly i am starting to get a headache from staring at filters nearly all evening.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:29 GMT
#731
SL had a few posts I liked, like:
On August 08 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 23:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2016 16:11 sicklucker wrote:
wanna just rng this shit


Mafia


Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 23:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Town
Damdred

Mafia
Disformation


Step up people.


two posts later. WEAK REMEMBER YOUR SHIT READS


actually after skimming through his filter again real fast like, that was kinda the only one?
So hard call actually
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:33 GMT
#733
well I think this slightly more town tonally:
On August 09 2016 07:50 sicklucker wrote:
im sorry bro your terrible logic does not make me the mafia. your in for a rude awakening if town


Actually SL vs GB might be a good thing for tomorrow.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:34 GMT
#734
Yeah, I think overall GB is more likely. Not a big fan of SL though.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:39 GMT
#737
On August 10 2016 05:33 Lunaticman wrote:
I haven't played with GB before so I don't know about him. But I got a townread on SL. Did he explain why he didn't move his vote?

Only did play with him in a huge themed game that had 2 scum teams. Can't remember him at all.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:41 GMT
#738
On August 10 2016 05:36 Shapelog wrote:
Skimming thru the rest:
How did u not notice the Luna wagon progression on HF?

It was one of the first things i noticed when I looked at HF's filter rofl.

Eh. Shit. Totally missed that vote. Thanks for pointing that out. Guess I have to look at HF's filter again.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:42 GMT
#739
Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:46 GMT
#740
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote:
Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.

On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
##vote Lunaticman

Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?

no comment on me missing that. xD
Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places.
Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 20:53 GMT
#744
On August 10 2016 05:51 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 05:48 Shapelog wrote:
On August 10 2016 05:46 disformation wrote:
On August 10 2016 05:42 disformation wrote:
Oh yeah that was the thing HF basically entered the game with. Def. looking at filters for too long.

On August 08 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
On August 08 2016 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
##vote Lunaticman

Yeah, that is cool and everything, but could we get an explanation? And/or some reads?

no comment on me missing that. xD
Yeah, he came in with a luna vote for his entry and later backed up towards EoD when luna started posting a lot more and had the posts about putting their votes in different places.
Actually I like the progression on Luna, cause that were def. the better posts of Luna.

You passed my test.
Still like him for D1 reasons. He is getting Narcissistic more and more as the game goes on, and seems to be infecting others with it. But w/e. I like his Pushy tone/well pushes, and his posting overall is good. His read on Lunatic did seem to change quickly in regards to how much he was pushing Lunatic. Which actually might be a townie, due to Scum!HF not only having the thread supporting (at the time) on a lunatic lynch, but also starting another lynch (GB) later instead of pushing the one he already had. Might be worth relooking at this though if lunatic flips mafia.


I'm tired what does this mean?

I think he means that he came to the same conclusion as me?

On August 10 2016 05:35 Shapelog wrote:
Comment on the rest of Dis post later.
Show nested quote +
Shape
Gets on kush fairly early. The hate on maths is real though. Not a fan of the GB wagon so stays on Kush. Seems legit so far. The weird thing to me are those times where is goes "I am really bad at reading kush" as if he was trying to avoid responsibility. So that is scummy, too.

Hahahaha, No.

Have you seen me read Kush?

Ask him post game if you don't believe me now. But I have always been sus. of Kush whenever we play together. And many, many, many, many times, it ends with a ML. With how he was posting this game, I honestly thought he was going to flip scum, finally, and i be redeemed. yet, I honestly cannot tell when it comes to Kush if I am right or not.

Hell, I've even mislynched kush in Lylo when apparently he was obv townie. Brav and Part 1 I was sus. of him as well. Town in all of those.

If you want links, I can give you some.

Yeah, links would be cool. But I will def. not be able to read them b4 night is over.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#751
Thanks for clarifying. TBH that is one of those things that give me trouble reading shape. Sometimes it just makes no sense. -.-
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