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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:06 GMT
#992
On July 22 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote:
well no one will counterclaim since he didnt say a specific role. but in an open setup he shouldn't say anyway since it just tells mafia how to deal with him if hes town. If hes mafia we kill him later

He claimed cop, there is only one cop like by setup. I agree with you that cop shouldn't claim right now though, we will find out at one point before the end of the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:13 GMT
#998
DC is still the best lynch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:22 GMT
#1003
Palmar your read of DC ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:29 GMT
#1007
On July 22 2016 06:26 Palmar wrote:
American

I would have thought Japanese.
On July 22 2016 06:26 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 03:48 Palmar wrote:
DC I forgot, but I also randomly opened his filter at some point and thought "well he's at least not obvious mafia".


meh read is meh
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:34 GMT
#1010
On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW?

No.
I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:38 GMT
#1015
On July 22 2016 06:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Rels you got meta on DCW?

No.
I'm not even 100% convinced he's scum. But he's the more likely to flip scum.

Why is Kush town?

I don't know, I don't townread him. I understood his thought process in one post but that is it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:39 GMT
#1018
On July 22 2016 04:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 04:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 22 2016 04:20 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 04:17 Tumblewood wrote:
rels I saw a post (or maybe it was two, I can't remember) so you'd better spew town to keep from getting lynched

First, this sentence is not missing something.
Second, why do (or did ?) you think that EC played this game and last game similarly ?

do you remember that post from early early d1 last game (two actually) where vorono scumread and voted ec based on two posts he made?
I was chilling I'm the obs qt and pissed that people were scumreading vorono and not lynching ec. yesterday I was feeling like a genius because I thought I had caught ec for the same thing but now I'm almost sure he can't be scum.

Alright. The post from last game:
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On July 12 2016 09:52 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"?

i voted you for this post

So you're saying EC have a similar post this game ? Which is it ?

On July 22 2016 04:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 04:27 Tumblewood wrote:
okay I read DC's filter and content-wise it sucks but that's much less important than mindset for newbies and I think his mindset is town. rels sorry but you're getting lynched today. I don't see anyone who is a better option than you.

I'm reading it and I have the opposite conclusion.
Why are you scumreading me ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:43 GMT
#1022
On July 22 2016 06:42 DCWasabi wrote:
I don't have time to read all this in 18 minutes, ask me anything right now and I will answer truthfully.

The lynch is actually you or kush. Please read kush s filter and give your thoughts
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:44 GMT
#1027
On July 22 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:43 Rels wrote:
On July 22 2016 06:42 DCWasabi wrote:
I don't have time to read all this in 18 minutes, ask me anything right now and I will answer truthfully.

The lynch is actually you or kush. Please read kush s filter and give your thoughts

really not tjough
the wagons are small and can change quickly. I don't think kush is even getting lynched today.

True. It could be you. Can you answer the questions I quoted ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:46 GMT
#1031
On July 22 2016 06:45 Koshi wrote:
Sicklucker not being here is pretty damning. No?

He does that sometimes D1 as town. Just not caring about the lynch. Him not being here is not damning
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:49 GMT
#1034
On July 22 2016 06:48 DCWasabi wrote:
I think that Kush's case on SL is pretty shitty, but other than that nothing strikes me as particularly scummy.

He is always low activity early on.
I was Mason with him last game and he put like nothing in Mason QT.
I know that I am town, so obviously I would rather lynch him than me, but there may be better lynches.

I know that Kruppe was being inactive and useless due to hard to understand, has he posted better stuff recently?

He claimed some sort of cop.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#1040
On July 22 2016 06:49 DCWasabi wrote:
Why are people even trying to lynch me?

I have posted honestly and tried to figure things out, tho it isn't easy and I was pretty damn active early on/

On July 22 2016 04:41 Rels wrote:
DC have a fair chance being scum. His filter have almost no content BUT all of his big posts are made to feel like they actually have content. A recurring theme these these big posts is "INACTIVE IS DIFFERENT FROM SCUMMY". Look, it comes back very often:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.


Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?

when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.


OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game.

Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up.

I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh.

At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning.

I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.

This one doesn't even address the problematic, since Tumble was not attacking Luna and EC for making joke post, but for making "fake contributory" posts.
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:15 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:58 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:35 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:25 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:19 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote:
There is a worrying amount of silent players

what do you mean by this?

who is silent and why is that worrying?


I just think the silent mafia is the hardest mafia to beat!

They will probably post when I am asleep. But we still need more "reads"

why do you think silent mafia are harder to beat?

what makes you think they will post when you're asleep when they're not posting now?


Because it turns into a guessing game, you should know this.

Because they might be on different time zones. Hence my earlier question to americans.

but the OP says 10 posts or you're dead so people will post or they will die. problem solved. also, if they don't post because they're in another timezone then time will pass and suddenly they will start posting so it seems like problem will solve itself again.

dunno why it's so worrying.

and no, i don't know that lurking scum are more worrying. i think active scum are just as worrying because sometimes they turn out to be impossible to kill. maybe because i just played with damdred and he was reasonably active scum and impossible to kill and i didn't realize this until it was too late.


This makes sense. Damdred totally fooled me last 2 games as active Mafia.

Also, the rules of the game should have people posting when they are awake and able, so it is quite premature to worry about activity, we should be looking at the tone, content, purpose, etc... of what people are posting when they start posting.

Noting the people that haven't posted yet is good, not bad, since it will encourages them to post.
But, it doesn't mean that they are scum.

Useless.
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;

Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz

There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,

A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar

The rest are blanks for me.

DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains



How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet.
They should be null.

What makes you think that they are scummy?

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 03:51 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;

Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz

There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,

A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar

The rest are blanks for me.

DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains



How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet.
They should be null.

What makes you think that they are scummy?


They havent posted yet.


That doesn't mean they are Mafia, it just means they are inactive.
We could Policy Lynch for inactivity, or we can Lynch somebody we actually are reading as mafia.
If they don't get active before the deadline, then host action will take place based on OP.

If they wait till the deadline, then post low-content / meaningless things, then we can lynch them on D2 if we think they are Mafia lurking in the shadows.

We do want them to be more active, but we don't want to derail the thread throwing darts at empty space.

Useless question to luna + a big post based on luna's answer, yet no conclusion on luna. I don't know what was the point of his question. Pointless questions are a good way to "participate" for scum.
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar



Is this 1920's Chicago, or something?
No way there are that many Mafia.

On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading:

3) Skynx
4) Lunaticman
5) emperorchampion
10) Tumblewood
yourself

Can you post some reasons?

Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 04:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On July 21 2016 04:56 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 21 2016 04:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
2) DCWasabi
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
8) Gracaroni
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar



Is this 1920's Chicago, or something?
No way there are that many Mafia.

On a more serious note, I'm going to go Full-Sherlock here and determine that you are Null or Town reading:

3) Skynx
4) Lunaticman
5) emperorchampion
10) Tumblewood
yourself

Can you post some reasons?

yes I can but I won't because that would take effort and not be that fun.

No reaction on kush answer.

He is a good lynch
I'll read some other filters to see if I prefer someone else. But he is a good lynch.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#1042
On July 22 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:50 DCWasabi wrote:
I put my vote on Kush for now in survival extincts but I can switch if there is a better target.

better target? did someone say rels?

would you answer my fucking questions already
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:53 GMT
#1043
On July 22 2016 06:52 prplhz wrote:
I'm switching to Rels. I'm really unsure but I don't think nnn_thekushmountains is scum. I just agreed with some of his things too much to want to lynch him on d1.

And why am I scum ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:54 GMT
#1045
On July 22 2016 06:53 DCWasabi wrote:
Rels apparently is tunneling me because my posts aren't useful, but that is pretty fucking stupid as I contributed to getting the game going and making reads when 75% of the players hadn't done jack shit yet at the time.

Not only because they aren't useful, but because they are all saying the same thing without contributing to the game.
Showing up 15 minutes before deadline when you said you would be there for your lunch break is another thing not in your favor.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:57 GMT
#1047
On July 22 2016 06:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 06:52 prplhz wrote:
I'm switching to Rels. I'm really unsure but I don't think nnn_thekushmountains is scum. I just agreed with some of his things too much to want to lynch him on d1.

And why am I scum ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:58 GMT
#1050
what
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#1053
please flip scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 22 2016 16:30 GMT
#1234
This is a weird kill. Palmar )=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 22 2016 16:31 GMT
#1235
I have some good news for me, but bad for the game. I have a surprise weekend in the wild so I won't be here all weekend. Given that I was almost lynched yesterday that means that I could be lynched because of that today but I can't do anything about it. If I don't die before that I'll be back Monday.
Not available right now but I'll be there in a few hours to read the thread & comment, after that I'll be gone.
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