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Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 20 2016 19:19 GMT

#418

On July 21 2016 03:34 emperorchampion wrote:

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Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for

and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential.

On July 21 2016 03:39 emperorchampion wrote:

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I'll dash your hopes before you make the point. Yes I know those have nothing to do with this game, but it's all about how you perceive me. So you're making a meta read. And it's shit because I've never even had a town game before, so your point is totally moot.

Besides, to me you look like a mafia who all along is trying to make a case against me using the "I can't believe he's mafia again!" meme and get an easy mislynch. Which you still have not convinced me of.

ec, I know many things
I know that newb scum sucks at pretending to contribute
I know that townies don't make posts with no purpose
I know that, as scum, you make empty posts like you have this game
and, because of this I know that you're scum. treat it like a real case and not a meme.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 20 2016 19:21 GMT

#421

On July 21 2016 04:19 Lunaticman wrote:

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Wow how can Prplhz and Skynx be 100% town. This you have to explain to me.

palmar has mysterious ways

...

ok now I'm caught up (I should also note that sl is a sliight scum lean for inactivity, though we're only 9 hours in. actually nvm no scum lean yet)

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 02:55 GMT

#514

On July 21 2016 11:14 Grackaroni wrote:

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It's possible Kush's play has changed since I've last played with him. Other people can add a better idea of how Kush currently plays than I do at this point. I haven't played with him in over a year and don't keep too up to date on current games.

That said from what I remember of Kush his tone feels quite off to me. Also, a lot of people seem more suspicious of the players who have contributed essentially nothing. I think you get a lot better success rate of hitting scum by lynching people who are contributing only a bit above that level while still giving off the appearance that they are interested in contributing.

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The post is just a highlight of what I've found underwhelming from him so far. It's not scummy to suspect a lot of people.

Koshi also fits into that scum sweet spot for me that I described. The only thing he's done this game is talk about some unease with Lunatic's posts, yet he's been posting enough that he gives off some appearance of trying to scum hunt. Also like Kush, I have some expectations of what to expect from his play and what he has posted is not what I would expect from Koshi so far.[/QUOTE]

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 02:58 GMT

#516

oh whoops
that went from "about to be pretty slick" to "hit the post button by accident" in about half a second
but you see that bolder thing? that's ec (in terms of post quality, not quantity)

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 02:59 GMT

#517

btw

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 02:59 GMT

#518

oh my god I can't keep my fingers away from the post button
btw grack when was the last time you played with kush?

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 03:07 GMT

#527

lol just remembered I have two quotes open in other tabs

On July 21 2016 05:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
scum
1) Prplhz
6) Rels
7) sicklucker
11) Kruppe the eel
12) Koshi
13) Palmar

kruppe - Isn't he a lot more explicit in his reads than last game? Maybe he's trying harder to look town, because actually he's scum??

the note on kruppe kinda weirds me out but I think kush wouldn't be that obvious probably
also palmar said a thing

On July 21 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote:

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I'm pointing out he's completely unable to detect sarcasm/trolling (read our interactions).

(nested quote is relevant)
I thought he was going one way with "agreeing with my trolling"-- like, in the direction of "he said something bad/dumb" but then he went in the direction of "doesn't detect sarcasm".
being unable to detect sarcasm is totally nai-- it reflects on the person and not the alignment.
both of these posts raise question marks in my head but I don't know if it makes either of them scum.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 05:02 GMT

#554

guys I figured out some sweet new metagame strats
as both alignments, only post opinions on the current Lynch and your scumreads so you'll be able to suddenly start reading someone neutral however you want as scum

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 05:03 GMT

#555

so basically not posting about anyone but ec and kush from now on

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 14:33 GMT

#694

guys, you saw the page that rels spammed with reads, no?
not like I read more than a quarter of it, but it was scummy alone just getting here, posting a bunch of random thoughts, and then leaving. can't explain why very well, but it felt
Ooh here's the word for it
blech

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 14:36 GMT

#697

not much to do though until rels gets back so here's a list
town
[redacted]

null
[redacted]
kush

scum
ec, rels

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 14:38 GMT

#702

On July 21 2016 23:37 Skynx wrote:

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On July 21 2016 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:

On July 21 2016 23:34 Skynx wrote:

On July 21 2016 23:30 Grackaroni wrote:

On July 21 2016 23:28 Skynx wrote:

On July 21 2016 23:21 Grackaroni wrote:

On July 21 2016 23:20 Skynx wrote:

On July 21 2016 22:49 Grackaroni wrote:

On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case

Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble
Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields

Town leans are mainly feels due to general posting style/tone. Only emperor is not scum that he was in previous games for few reasons that will remain hidden cuz that might change.
Palmar is Palmar, he can lynch his godfather teammate for towncred or contribute very low but precise to lynch scum 1 by 1, needs more time but I like him tone based so far.
Koshi is slightly odd and different to how I know him but that might be because he's a changed man now.
kush is kush, similar to palmar.
Tumble's push I don't find necessarily well constructed but he did progress the game from that miserable spam dump we turned it into so props for that. Needs more time to read.
Rels came in, made some few remarks about game/roles and left, nothing to note really.
Kruppe is on another dimension but Palmar is sure he's mafia hmmmm
sl is sl
Points on Lunatic explained eariler

Grack I have a scumlean on for few reasons. First he admitted to lurk but did not declare it to thread in a towny way like haze. He than townread Tumble for interacting with Lunatic in quick succession which is weak at best. Mafia doesn't have to coordinate small stuff like that, people should be capable of engaging in conversation without giving away too much as mafia. On top of all it could be svs.

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Why are you doing this? It doesn't really make sense from a town or a scum perspective

Now he realises something is fishy about Lunatic but that is such a weak push considering Lunatic's plays/reads/vote so far made no sense. He's right about that but kinda needs to build up on it.

Then turns to kush, which he gives mixed impressions on why he scumreads him:

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Can you explain what was townie about this qt link discussion? So far Kush has contributed little, but he actually seems like he wants people to think that he's putting an effort this game. I think this is scummy for Kush since he usually has a loud, distinct no-shits given attitude as town.
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A list of 8 people? I expect more. I think Kush is the best lynch for today.
##Vote: Kushm4sta

This contribution for sake of contribution argument is getting a trend. Kush has been pretty similar to how he plays normally. On top of that there were so many other players like how you described kush such as Palmar and haze, why they are not scum?
Then you turn to tone based read.
Then you turn to wow 8 people scumread wtf.
I just don't see what in there makes kush a perfect lynch today.

Also

On July 21 2016 12:01 Grackaroni wrote:
I haven't played mafia at all for about a year.

how you so sure about kush meta and tone then?

Where did I say I was lurking?
Those were just things I've noticed on Lunatic not a push.
I think I've explained fairly clearly why I like a Kush lynch. Palmar/Haze's attitude didn't strike me as off in a scummy way like Kush's did.

On July 21 2016 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I've been taking notes.

This is lurking. You were following the thread but we didn't know about it. It's tactical it seems.
On Lunatic and kush, well I guess we just have differing opinions then.

I wasn't sitting here taking notes all day long and not posting, I took notes as I read through the thread.

I see. Who are you ok with lynching other than kush?

Sicklucker/kruppe/rels are all fine lynches for day 1. Koshi seems to be getting more involved with the thread right now, which is good.

I'm not sure about rels. I hold sl/palmar almost same in terms of lynchability. Kruppe I'm fine with if he keeps same attitude.

Can you explain the kruppe read? He seems unreadable.

That's it, he's unreadable.

I usually read people like him town and so far it's worked out

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 14:47 GMT

#706

On July 21 2016 23:41 emperorchampion wrote:
@ tumble: can you expand on your point?

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whatever
not what I was saying but maybe it could be? nah actually, don't think so. it just felt weird because kush was pointing out a reason to scumread kruppe but was obviously not convinced by it and not going to follow it. probably nothing but it bothers me.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 14:54 GMT

#711

On July 21 2016 23:53 Lunaticman wrote:
And can someone please explain why Grackaroni and Palmar voted for nnn_thekushmountains?

I'm sure Grackaroni and Palmar can

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 19:17 GMT

#836

rels I saw a post (or maybe it was two, I can't remember) so you'd better spew town to keep from getting lynched

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 19:19 GMT

#839

before I say that though I guess I should read DC's filter
@skynx why are you not lynching rels or kush?

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 19:25 GMT

#842

On July 22 2016 04:20 Rels wrote:

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First, this sentence is not missing something.
Second, why do (or did ?) you think that EC played this game and last game similarly ?

do you remember that post from early early d1 last game (two actually) where vorono scumread and voted ec based on two posts he made?
I was chilling I'm the obs qt and pissed that people were scumreading vorono and not lynching ec. yesterday I was feeling like a genius because I thought I had caught ec for the same thing but now I'm almost sure he can't be scum.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

July 21 2016 19:27 GMT

#843

okay I read DC's filter and content-wise it sucks but that's much less important than mindset for newbies and I think his mindset is town. rels sorry but you're getting lynched today. I don't see anyone who is a better option than you.