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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 16:18 GMT
#320
On July 21 2016 00:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
do i really have to read all this or is it all about coffee and tea and stuff?

Read skynx his filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:28 GMT
#481
On July 21 2016 02:23 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 01:12 prplhz wrote:
up to date but i literally have nothing and i also don't feel like posting

See here, i literally had nothing but felt like posting. Asked maybe if anyone had anything. Koshi you're better than this.

pls gooby. I said you might be mafia and people voiced their opinion on you. It's all good. When I push somebody I push somebody. Now I am just playing around.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:30 GMT
#483
On July 21 2016 04:31 Lunaticman wrote:
To be perfectly honest I think Palmer is acting super scummy, it feels like a desperate attempt to save EC. But I have a town read on EC which is kinda wierd.

Could it be possible both of them are scum?

It feels like such a rookie misstake to make.

...

Really

...



EC looks pretty town so I don't understand how Palmar can make him mafia. Explain?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:31 GMT
#484
On July 21 2016 06:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 06:28 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 02:23 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 01:12 prplhz wrote:
up to date but i literally have nothing and i also don't feel like posting

See here, i literally had nothing but felt like posting. Asked maybe if anyone had anything. Koshi you're better than this.

pls gooby. I said you might be mafia and people voiced their opinion on you. It's all good. When I push somebody I push somebody. Now I am just playing around.


...
are you saying you made me read his filter for nothing?!

No. I thought/think he could be mafia.
Sometimes you have some reason to townread somebody that is actually really believable and use-able.


I think it is too soon to read skynx anyway. But if his filter looks like this (or when I read it earlier) EoD2 he is lock mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:38 GMT
#485
On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time

This is a good point.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:38 GMT
#486
On July 21 2016 05:46 prplhz wrote:
i don't know if i want to lynch him anyway because he's very active and this is his first game

top town prplhz
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 21:50 GMT
#489
On July 21 2016 06:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time

This is a good point.

The dude is literally agreeing with my trolling.

I don't understand what you are saying.

Something is off on lunatic.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 22:00 GMT
#491
On July 21 2016 06:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 06:47 Palmar wrote:
On July 21 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 05:45 prplhz wrote:
i am really having a hard time imagining Lunaticman playing mafia for 8 hours with people being 100% serious 100% of the time which is why i think it's odd he's being so serious and taking everything so serious all the time

This is a good point.

The dude is literally agreeing with my trolling.

I don't understand what you are saying.

Something is off on lunatic.

I'm pointing out he's completely unable to detect sarcasm/trolling (read our interactions).

ah ok now I understand. He did it in the start as well. But I don't know why it makes him mafia though. It is just superodd. Why would he play like that as mafia :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 22:11 GMT
#493
well tbf prplhz also just says it is odd.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 20 2016 23:02 GMT
#495
On July 21 2016 07:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:
well tbf prplhz also just says it is odd.

actually prplhz said he thought he was 100% mafia

o rly
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:16 GMT
#608
On July 21 2016 12:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 12:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jk about shutting the fuck up grack.
um but yeah. Let's vote for kruppe or rels or something guys.

What do you think about a Koshi vote?

I disagree that I done nothing of value for this town. Or that I am obviously trying to make sure the game is not solved. Quite the opposite tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:21 GMT
#612
On July 21 2016 17:56 Skynx wrote:
And that's basically it. Few pointers in that case

Town lean: emperor, haze, DCW
Not entirely town yet but not lynching today lol: Palmar, Koshi, kush, Tumble

Total Null/Inactive/Needs to step up: Rels, Kruppe, sicklucker
Slight scumlean: Lunatic
Bit more scumlean: Grack Fields


Koshi is a changed man now.


Good list. Top town for now.

And the list is good because I agree on the top 2, and the greens maybe, but for sure the last 2. and the last one only because he scumreads me but that is actually understandable. But still. Good list.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:28 GMT
#618
On July 21 2016 21:35 Lunaticman wrote:
Also if Palmer turns red, there is a good chance EC is red too.

Please don't say things like this. They are based on no evidence at all except some weird reasoning in your head that Palmar for no reason at all took heat of EC.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:31 GMT
#620
On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?


There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now


Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing.

It also an effective way to trap people. Example:

I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways.

What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on?

HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking.

etc.

Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.

Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.

7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do?

If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:37 GMT
#624
On July 21 2016 22:35 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:29 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:26 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:19 Skynx wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:08 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:06 Skynx wrote:
Lunaticman, do you have romanian ties in the family?


No, not that I am aware of, I don't understand what the point of the question is?


There used to be a thread where a bunch of Romanians didn't understand lines and lines of sarcasm than didn't take serious stuff serious. It became a meme on TL but i can't find it now


Yes I can understand that, tbh it is really hard to tell sarcasm or trolling on a forum post. I guess you need experience in the matter. In my opinion it doesn't aid the town at all and only sows confusion. There is also the possibility that it actually means something. That is why I tried asking every time I find it confusing.

It also an effective way to trap people. Example:

I think x is scummy because reasons and I work in mysterious ways.

What do you mean that doesnt add content what are you basing this on?

HAHA noob dont you realize I was joking.

etc.

Inside jokes are also hard for beginners, for obvious reasons.

Well, how that applies to you is that Palmar was trolling when he said "I'm rookie" or "I forgot my reasons, sry". You should have felt no pressure if you were town and simply laugh in his face. But the way you reacted to this whole situation makes you vote worthy from my pow.

7 pages of filter. It makes sense that he has a lot of things in it that you don't agree with. Question is, did he things only a mafia would do? Or did he things that only a townie would do?

If you don't have any of those, better not lynch him D1 just because his style pisses you off.

His style doesn't piss me off. If we take his actions totally serious he's like confirmed mafia in my eyes. His style suggests that he's not aware of certain stuff behind posts and takes non-serious things for real and vice versa. I reasoned my original slight scumlean based off of that, that ok he might pick up on the game when he gets familiar but he said stuff so far that must always get him lynched at one point.
My only concern is he's prolly town.

I don't see how any of his actions make him mafia.
Not understanding a post and just reply to it is most of the time townie. Mafia tends to make sure they wont look bad.
This guy doesn't care about that. He plays free and posts w.e he likes.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:41 GMT
#625
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.


I agree Palmar might be mafia. And last times I said Palmar was mafia he actually was mafia and I got night killed and people didn't lynch him. So I am glad you are in the game.


I am currently thinking about Kruppe as well. What is your opinion?


My current scumteam:

Palmar/Kruppe/Rels
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:48 GMT
#632
The reason why I think at least 2 mafia are within my list. (the reasoning is weak, but they connect like this atm) Also Palmar, Rels, Kruppe are left in my PoE list of let's say 6 people if I would really make one.

↓It was weird that Palmar had him in his scumlist. Why wasn't Kruppe null? He looked pretty null.
On July 21 2016 04:31 Palmar wrote:
Kruppe playing games, only confirms my strong scumread on him based on the extensive research I've done on this game.



↓ The 2 calm envelopes are sent to the 2 people who everybody are townreading. Really boring.
The 2 hot envelopes are sent to me and Rels. I am not mafia. And mafia likes to add at least 1 mafia.
On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.

Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!

Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!

Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?


Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)

Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn!




↓Weird logic.
On July 21 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 04:30 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Such mystery! Friend Kruppe has two sets of —most beautifully written by Kruppe himself— invitations.

Red envelopes! Warm invitations to the most (in?)famous and lustrous (in some way) inn in Darujhistan; the Phoenix Inn!

Blue envelopes! Calming invitations to the mysterious inn in.. Darujhistan(?); the Crossroad Inn!

Where will Kruppe truly be? What table will be filled with the most delicious pastries, the toughest of drinks and hosted by the most magnanimous host of all, Kruppe?


Kruppe cordially extends a red envelope to both Rels and Koshi. A pair of two indeed! Kruppe extends a warm welcome to the Phoenix Inn! (And of course, dear Koshi, a book with friend Kruppe in it is worth reading a thousand times over!)

Kruppe also extends two mysterious blue envelopes! One to Skynx and one to EmperorChampion. An enigma indeed! Kruppe would welcome the both of you to the Crossroad Inn!

Kruppe posting 15 minutes after being called out by Palmar is suspicious.


I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:51 GMT
#635
On July 21 2016 22:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 16:18 Skynx wrote:
So p19 it kicks off with Tumble case.

While it's an ok case, there is nothing new in it. Tumble basically just repeats and compiles what he's found scummy about emperor over span of past few pages. Main point being posting for sake of posting.

On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread

This however is some giveaway. Now his push turns into a meta push. I mean if you feel like you made enough convincing in your case why write this? There are lot of players who are unfamiliar with emp playstyle and I don't actually agree he fits his scum meta so far.
Actually I'm sure Koshi can figure out why emperor is not scum so far cuz we discussed this deeply in coach chat.

Koshi, could you comment on this meta.

Comes down to the fact mafia EC will post about everything without real content if he is scum.

This EC is doing pretty good.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:53 GMT
#637
On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.


but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

you agree with this

so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

but you are not scumreading emperorchampion

it's literally what the post said???

ALSO

why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here?

prplhz,

Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree.
Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town.

Palmar might very well be mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 21 2016 13:59 GMT
#643
On July 21 2016 22:57 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 22:53 Koshi wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:43 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:37 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 22:24 prplhz wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:45 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 21 2016 21:40 Skynx wrote:
So I'm assuming you sr Palmar based on the fact that he voted you without any reason to save his scumbuddy emp?


It sure seems that way to me, unless you have something to add.

how does this make ANY sense when emperorchapmion isn't even your scum read

you're literally saying Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum. but emperorchampion isn't scum but Palmar is still scum.

???


No.

Ec was accused of being scummy because of a meta read.

I thought the accusation was interesting and valid. I voted for him because of it.

He defended himself by accusing me, I explained why that was a mistake and that it would have gotten him lynched IRL.

Palmer springs up and tries to redirect the attention and makes a several contradictions which makes him super scummy in my eyes.

I vote for Palmer.

Everyone starts to question my reads and the way I play which makes me think I am onto something. I just think I hit a nerve and I won't let it go unless Palmer hard claims a blue role.


but Skynx is saying you are scumreading Palmar because he tries to attract attention on himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

you agree with this

so you think Palmar is scum because he tries to attract attention to himself over his scumbuddy emperorchampion

but you are not scumreading emperorchampion

it's literally what the post said???

ALSO

why would whatever get someone lynched irl, but not here? why is it scummy irl but not here?

prplhz,

Better not stare blindly in what lunatic says why Palmar is mafia and discard the idea because you disagree.
Please read Palmar his filter and tell me why Palmar is town? You probably can't. Please do not defend Palmar solely because you disagree with Lunatic. It doesn't help town.

Palmar might very well be mafia.

that's not my problem, yes Palmar could be mafia

Skynx is asking Lunaticman is he is scumreading Palmar because Palmar is defending his scumbuddy emperorchampion. Lunaticman says that that is exactly what is happening.

This associative business is shady in itself, but Lunaticman isn't even scumreading emperorchampion.

Explain this to me like I'm stupid. He is saying "Palmar is scum because emperorchampion is scum" but he doesn't think emperorchampion is scum???

I was the first to say that was bullshit. In the thread. Posts started with:
...

Really

...


But LET IT GO... Do not stare blindly on 1 thing this lunatic guy says. He has a 7 (maybe 8 now) filter and he is not backing down. You can tell him another 1000 times that he doesn't make sense and he will tell you 1001 times he does...

If you think it makes him mafia. Fine. But I don't think it does.

He really believes Palmar is mafia for this reason. While we think that reason is bad. He still believes it.


It's townie.
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