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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 24 2016 23:31 GMT
#2161
We're pretty much just putting the game on hold until Rels shows up right?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 24 2016 23:52 GMT
#2162
On July 25 2016 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 25 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote:
you have ot admit tho emperor not voting tumble at the end of the day is suspect when grak almost got lynched. since he was clearly there lurking and had wanted tumble lynched all day. thats all I was talking about when I made my comments about him. I didnt consider his entire game


Well I had no idea whether or not tumble was going to flip maf or not


but you had no problem voting him the rest of the day. the only time you seemed to hesitate was when tumble had a chance to live


Actually I backed off when there was almost hammer on him because hammer is stupid. I think it turned out ok since the vote turned out 6/4, which is a lot better than 6/2/1/1/1 or whatever
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 25 2016 00:01 GMT
#2163
On July 25 2016 08:31 Grackaroni wrote:
We're pretty much just putting the game on hold until Rels shows up right?


Hmm maybe we can find something juicy , I will probably look through end of day 2 tomorrow morning.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:36 GMT
#2164
On July 25 2016 08:25 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 08:22 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 25 2016 05:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
can somebody put words on why DCWasabi is town?

seems like it's just a feeling

Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong.

Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead.

DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time.



Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path.



And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker


This sums it up perfectly LOL.
No way I would look this bad if I was Mafia haha.

I'm actually good at strategy games where I have perfect information, I'm a chess coach in real life!

Unfortunately in this game I have far from perfect information.

why don't you think you know how to play mafia when you literally just caught mafia d1 in onegu (caught emperorchampion) and lynched another mafia (Snickers)


Well, I apparently fked myself this game.
If I nearly got mislynched, doesn't that mean that I played badly?

I thought I found something with Grack, but apparently town says that was nothing too.

My hope right now is just to survive long enough for the cop to check me and exonerate me.
Also, I don't want the town to waste a lynch on me when the mafia are sitting back laughing.
I feel like I would be letting the town down if that happened.
That's why I came back to thread after I pretty much said I was done.
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:40 GMT
#2165
On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi


So hey, prplz?

You ain't the cop, for reasons that I already outlined.

Grack supposedly thought this was a cop claim???
Did anybody else feel that way?
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:42 GMT
#2166
On July 25 2016 06:32 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 02:07 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.


Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?

when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.


OK, but if there is one thing that I learned from my first 2 games, it is that it is pretty nontrivial to "work towards solving the game" on Day 1. I think the first thing that is useful that one can do is get some activity out there day 1, and get your tone established so that you can be more easily read as town by the town moving forwards. I think this is one of the things that I actually did properly as town in the Onegu Best Host Game.

Town should be trying to solve the game, but some of the players haven't even posted yet, for example it is 10am local time for me and I just woke-up 30 mins ago and am trying to get caught up.

I don't scumlean either of those guys yet, tbh.

At the same time, I kind of like this post by Tumble because it is the kind of thing that can help to start more meaningful discussion going and discourage people from posting random banter, otherwise they might get scum-read by this reasoning.

I am going to slightly town-lean Tumble because his post leads to a slightly more favorable environment for town.


this is like literraly dcs first post and hes trying to sway the thread into town reading tumble. I do this tactic all the time to my partners


that's nice that you do that, who cares?

Do I play like you?
Because I am a noob, so you would be kind of insulting yourself.
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:43 GMT
#2167
On July 25 2016 06:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 04:21 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.


Good reasoning.


more helping tumble. literraly half his filter is trying to make tumble look good


This was in response to somebody asking me why I was townreading tumble LOL, so I found some posts.
Like WTF, did you even read the context?
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 00:44 GMT
#2168
On July 25 2016 09:40 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi


So hey, prplz?

You ain't the cop, for reasons that I already outlined.

Grack supposedly thought this was a cop claim???
Did anybody else feel that way?

Don't answer this. I was being stupid to bring this up in the first place. And what rasons how could prplz be the cop if youre town anyways.
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:49 GMT
#2169
On July 25 2016 09:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:40 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi


So hey, prplz?

You ain't the cop, for reasons that I already outlined.

Grack supposedly thought this was a cop claim???
Did anybody else feel that way?

Don't answer this. I was being stupid to bring this up in the first place. And what rasons how could prplz be the cop if youre town anyways.


He can't be cop because I am town, but he could be mafia if that was a claim.

You're right, lets not talk about it then.
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 00:50 GMT
#2170
Did you read my Lunatic stuff?
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 00:55 GMT
#2171
On July 25 2016 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you read my Lunatic stuff?


What specifically?

I'm sheeping Koshi for now.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 01:01 GMT
#2172
On July 25 2016 09:55 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you read my Lunatic stuff?


What specifically?

I'm sheeping Koshi for now.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

It's gotta be somewhere near the end of my filter. You'll recognize it.
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 01:07 GMT
#2173
On July 25 2016 10:01 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:55 DCWasabi wrote:
On July 25 2016 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you read my Lunatic stuff?


What specifically?

I'm sheeping Koshi for now.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

It's gotta be somewhere near the end of my filter. You'll recognize it.


Yeah.
I'm going to reread it and try to understand it.
Need to read luna filter too.

Sec...
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 01:17 GMT
#2174
On July 25 2016 09:40 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote:
DCWasabi


So hey, prplz?

You ain't the cop, for reasons that I already outlined.

Grack supposedly thought this was a cop claim???
Did anybody else feel that way?

Yes. I was rolling my eyes when I saw that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 01:20 GMT
#2175
DCW, do you have any games played here as mafia? I want to check meta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 25 2016 01:21 GMT
#2176
anyway. I am going to sleep now. I should have a lot of work tomorrow. (@ work)
I had a good night of sleep.
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 01:23 GMT
#2177
On July 25 2016 03:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I examined the Lunatic trap and I think It's a bunch of lies.
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 00:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Been looking at the vote thread for a while. If tumble/koshi is town. There could be a skynx/sl mafia instead. Sl is on every Train.

Tbh I think koshi and tumble are trying to hard to be magia atm. God this is confusing.


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 00:50 Lunaticman wrote:
Also where is haze and skynx?!?!?


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 00:54 Lunaticman wrote:
Well isnt it strange we are almost auto lynching tumble?


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 01:08 Lunaticman wrote:
Well if tumble was town, it would have been easy for the mafia to auto lynch him among the remaining votes. So that intself speaks a lot for tumble.

These are all the posts made while Tumble has moved up to 5 votes and is on the verge of being lynched. Why didn't you reveal your trap at this point if your plan for the day was to try to get mafia to form wagons on TW/Koshi? You should have said at this point "THIS WAS A TRAP. DON"T VOTE TUMBLE, the people voting Tumble are mafia looking for an easy lynch, let's lynch someone from his voter pool"
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 01:20 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 00:56 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2016 00:54 Lunaticman wrote:
Well isnt it strange we are almost auto lynching tumble?

Dude. Play mafia and don't do this.

The entire day you are asking to look at tumble and Koshi. 1 is mafia. You give 0 reasons but you "organize town".

Now that we are lynching one out of Koshi/Tumble

You say: "Let's not lynch Koshi or Tumble because they try hard"

And again. You give no reasons.



...


...


...

Come on.


I was actually trying to meta because to me it feels like that the mafia has been using my filter as their basis for manipulating the town. What I wanted to do with pushing Tumble and Koshi so hard was to see if a wagon would form fast and easily. This would be a big indicator for that as I mentioned. The mafia has just been sowing seeds of distrust and waiting for a train to start on a townie before stopping the manipulation.

It is a basic mafia strategy in my opinion. I think we need to switch from tumble. If anyone thinks I am wrong in this assumption please enlighten me.

SL is a good target, why didnt he join the train while he had the oppertunity? maybe he just missed that it was forming. But he is suspicious.

brb

Ok so he finally does so at this point. So if Lunatic was lying about the trap to avoid lynching Tumble he was thinking pretty quickly on his feet. But now he's saying that SL is suspicious for NOT jumping on the TW wagon. That's the opposite conclusion that should have come from this trap. I think Lunatic already knew that TW was mafia and that's why he called SL suspicious.


This makes a lot of fucking sense too.

If the trap is set so that people who join late on the wagon are mafia, then how is Sicklucker mafia for not joining?

This is a tiny bit awkward now because I am currently sheeping koshi, who is on SL.

I do see your point about Luna.

"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 25 2016 01:24 GMT
#2178
On July 25 2016 10:20 Koshi wrote:
DCW, do you have any games played here as mafia? I want to check meta.


Only the recent Onegu and Bavarian, both ended prematurely.

Those are the only forum mafia games that I ever played.

I played 2x in real life in college.
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 25 2016 02:45 GMT
#2179
Since things seem to be pretty slow I'll throw in a few more thoughts I had laying around.

Idea for Palmar kill: maf was afraid of his reads. Palmar could either be killed for reads or for wifom (blue hunt is slight possibility as well). If wifom, that would mean that most likely his last read list was inaccurate, meaning that there would be at least 1 scum in koshi/prpl. It looks like things are shaping up such that this isn't the case, so I want to explore the other option.

Palmar was probably killed because the maf feared him, meaning his reads and experience. I think that teams that best fits this, based on Palmar's latest scum leans is: tumble/sl/skynx.

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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 25 2016 02:52 GMT
#2180
Hmm I'm think that there is 1 mafia at least in skynx/sl
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