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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:14 GMT
#2667
ok obviously not
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:26 GMT
#2669
Day recaps colored with flips

Please use it if you wanna check something. I corrected the mistakes I spoted on the official votecounts.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, EmperorChampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (6): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, Skynx, prplhz
DCWasabi (1): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:31 GMT
#2672
On July 27 2016 19:29 prplhz wrote:
d3 is obviously wrong as it only took 5 to lynch

Skynx switched to DCWasabi before lynch

Yeah you're right
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:31 GMT
#2673
Day 3 votecount

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:35 GMT
#2674
On July 25 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote:
I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously..

These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia"




Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 19:25 Skynx wrote:
Emperors last min was scummy aswell.


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 20:50 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
emperor why did you vote one person in the vote thread and vote the other in the main thread with like 3 minutes before deadline?


There is a high probability, that SL and EC are scum.

Kruppes read was perfect, I think I will just wait for his reads and do what he says.



Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.

I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green.


eh no we are both town im pretty sure I dont see how you can reach that conclusion if even I think that

##vote emperorchapion aka the guy lurking at the end waiting to see if he could save tumble



Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it.

Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why.

Here Koshi says he read EC's filter "again". But he doesn't mention anything from his filter, just that he is confirmed not mafia. He does say "I'm not 100% sure", then in the same sentence "repeat after me: EC is not mafia".
I think he was trying to make the check obvious in case he was killed, while hiding it as long as nobody knew he was cop.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:40 GMT
#2676
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

+ this, as mentionned already earlier today
2 checks, 2 people at 0%. It is super smart. It doesn't attract the attention, while giving info. Super super cool. (=
I'm 99% sure those were his green checks. If he had a red check we would have known.
The 1% chance is that he checked someone that was killed, but then I think he would have put only 1 person at 0% in this list.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:48 GMT
#2677
On July 27 2016 19:39 Lunaticman wrote:
I can tell you right now, I would have fought for SL with tooth and nail. i didn't really get a chance. The correct lynch is DC yesterday.

Rels and Grac, I want you to specifically tell me if you think there was another mafia on the Grac train day 2. If you think there was Skynx should be lynched otherwise we should assume both me and skynx are town.

I mean DC is the only one outside the town lynches day 2.

It's just a risk not worth taking. And he only posts when his name is up. His lynches never take of.


It doesn't work that way because there is always at least one scum between you / DC / Skynx, and all of you three were not on Tumble. You / Skynx were on Grac because you were here during the last hour; DC was AFK so that is why he was not on Grac; the Grac wagon hadn't formed when he voted and left the thread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:50 GMT
#2678
On July 26 2016 02:51 Koshi wrote:
ec and skynx

pff. it is possible I guess.

This is the only post that is a little weird with a EC green check. It is his last post. But remember that the day got hammered for this lynch, so it's possible this was just to hide his check better and he wanted to post something else before the deadline, only to be silenced by the hammer.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 10:59 GMT
#2682
On July 27 2016 19:57 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:
On July 26 2016 02:51 Koshi wrote:
ec and skynx

pff. it is possible I guess.

This is the only post that is a little weird with a EC green check. It is his last post. But remember that the day got hammered for this lynch, so it's possible this was just to hide his check better and he wanted to post something else before the deadline, only to be silenced by the hammer.


If we assume EC and Grac are the cop checks because I think that's logical and smart. Can we put them in green in the day votes too please?

Yeah I can do that. So in the same time I'll fix the D3 votes.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:00 GMT
#2684
On July 27 2016 19:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll hammer if you guys are fine with it, DC should be next.

I'm ready to go lylo with Luna if all goes wrong.

No I'm going back to work soon and I want time to think about who is the last scum.
And more importantly I want EC to read your filter and give a read about it. He's the one that knows you the most.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:03 GMT
#2685
Day recaps colored with flips

With D3 votecount fixed and Koshi's cop checks colored!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, emperorchampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:08 GMT
#2688
On July 27 2016 20:05 Skynx wrote:
Where did these cop checks came from lol

On July 27 2016 00:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Thinking about it on my walk here, I'm completely convinced that the team is lunaticman/prplhz.

I can't believe that I didn't piece together that koshi was cop yesterday, especially when he was posting about everybody needing to do the reads thing, since I had the exact same thought at the end of day 2 that we all need to post reads in order to hide our cop in the future since silent nights. His day 1 check was grack (really good check btw lol), and I was probably his day 2 check (likely due to the last minute vote). I know his day 1 check was grack because after grack posted about only towny people voting for tumble (great post btw), koshi switched there as well. He put 2 people as 0% mafia on his last list, grack and I. I am writing this part first to convince you that I'm town and not trying to deceive you at all in this. We should treat both grack and I confirmed town here.



The day 1 stuff with lunatic and tumble makes complete sense where tumble made his push on me and then lunatic was like "oh yeah I'm convinced", then "oh yeah he's town, but I'm still voting for him to put pressure", and tumble didn't call him out on it either (note: I didn't verify that tumble didn't call him out, but I'm pretty certain). Like if lunatic was town, that's sooo many good town points for jumping onto lunatic for some stupid posting. And there is no reason not too IF he is town, since a lynch is a lynch. One other thing, lunatic and tumble both do not seem like the type that would be likely to bus teammates. Other evidence is the "trap" stuff lunatic was posting about at the end of day 2, which was I guess just complete non-sense.

Like start reading from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511784-who-needs-72-hours-anyway?user=Koshi&page=12

Another thing I came across was the stuff from Kruppe, which I'll repost here:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:33 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, Sicklucker

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:33 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
My wagon was all town?

More evidence against prpl here.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 17:49 Koshi wrote:
prplhz is mafia.

And for all the insane fucking things Lunatic has done. I think he never ever once said anything about prplhz.


I am sure it is those 2. ggwpnore.
Fuck I can't believe it. Mafia can't hide forever I guess.




It honestly clicked like a puzzle or something on my walk here, I'm sure there is more evidence on prpl, but I'm totally convinced it's them at this point.

On July 27 2016 01:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least.

On July 27 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote:
I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously..

These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia"




On July 24 2016 19:25 Skynx wrote:
Emperors last min was scummy aswell.


On July 24 2016 20:50 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 24 2016 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
emperor why did you vote one person in the vote thread and vote the other in the main thread with like 3 minutes before deadline?


There is a high probability, that SL and EC are scum.

Kruppes read was perfect, I think I will just wait for his reads and do what he says.



On July 24 2016 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
On July 24 2016 19:59 emperorchampion wrote:
There is probably 3 mafia on grack (maaaybe just 2). Almost certain that 1 of grack/sl is mafia, and grack is certainly town. I think we go sl for now.

I think cop only claims if they are about to be lynched or if the lynch target is checked green.


eh no we are both town im pretty sure I dont see how you can reach that conclusion if even I think that

##vote emperorchapion aka the guy lurking at the end waiting to see if he could save tumble



Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it.

Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why.

Here Koshi says he read EC's filter "again". But he doesn't mention anything from his filter, just that he is confirmed not mafia. He does say "I'm not 100% sure", then in the same sentence "repeat after me: EC is not mafia".
I think he was trying to make the check obvious in case he was killed, while hiding it as long as nobody knew he was cop.

On July 27 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

+ this, as mentionned already earlier today
2 checks, 2 people at 0%. It is super smart. It doesn't attract the attention, while giving info. Super super cool. (=
I'm 99% sure those were his green checks. If he had a red check we would have known.
The 1% chance is that he checked someone that was killed, but then I think he would have put only 1 person at 0% in this list.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:11 GMT
#2691
On July 27 2016 20:06 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2016 20:03 Rels wrote:
Day recaps colored with flips

With D3 votecount fixed and Koshi's cop checks colored!

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 final votecount] +

nnn_thekushmountains (6): Grackaroni, Palmar Grackaroni, Koshi, Palmar, sicklucker, Dcwasabi, prphlz
DCWasabi(3): Rels, Skynx, emperorchampion, Lunaticman
Rels (1): Prplhz, emperorchampion, Palmar, Lunaticma Tumblewood, prphlz
Kruppe the Eel(1): Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Skynx, sicklucker
sicklucker(1):: nnn_thekushmountains
Skynx(1): Kruppe the Eel, Palmar
emperorchampion (0): Lunaticman, Tumblewood
Palmar(0): Lunaticman
Lunaticman(0): Skynx


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 final votecount] +

Tumblewood (6): Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz Kruppe the Eel, Grackaroni, Koshi, Koshi, prplhz, emperorchampion
Grackaroni(4): Tumblewood, sicklucker, Skynx, Lunaticman
Koshi (1): Skynx, DCwasabi
Skynx(0): Skynx
Lunaticman(0): Skynx
Rels (0): Tumblewood,sicklucker, DCWasabi, sicklucker
DCWasabi (0): prplhz, Koshi, Prplhz, Grackaroni, Koshi
sicklucker (0): Grackaroni


+ Show Spoiler [Day 3 final votecount] +

sicklucker (5): DCWasabi, Koshi, Rels, Grackaroni, prplhz
DCWasabi (2): prplhz, sicklucker, Koshi, Skynx
Lunaticman (0): Skynx, Grackaroni

Not voting (2): Lunaticman, emperorchampion


I dont think the mafia would vote on the same player day 1.

It's most likely DC/Skynx/Tumble or DC/Haze/Tumble using that logic.

That is an OK point. Scum votes tend te be sprayed, and especially D1 there was no reason for them to vote together with kush clearly leading the votes. But the only team that eliminates is Tumble / DC / prp.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:13 GMT
#2692
On July 27 2016 20:10 Skynx wrote:
Man thats like pure speculation. But whatever they are both 100% town anyways.

It is a little bit, but Koshi is a strong player. I assume he knows that as cop he's supposed to leave hints of his checks in case he's killed before he has a chance to claim, which is exactly what happened. So it is not random at all.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 11:15 GMT
#2694
Alright work time. See you later folks (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 15:51 GMT
#2752
On July 28 2016 00:43 emperorchampion wrote:
So we go prp -> dcw or dcw -> prp? Thoughts?

DC is scummy on his own BUT if prp / dc is a team then prp decided to bus DC pretty early on. I don't know how likely it is.
prp is 99% scum and should be lynched today.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 15:51 GMT
#2755
lol ^^
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 16:00 GMT
#2765
On July 28 2016 00:57 Skynx wrote:
I'll go hammer on your approval Rels btw.

At least wait for emperor / Grac's final reads 'cause one of them is very likely to be the kill.
In case I am the kill: I'd lynch Luna => DC in that order right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 27 2016 16:01 GMT
#2768
On July 28 2016 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm going to be so sad if Rels + anyone is mafia

^^ it would be my best game ever played.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 28 2016 14:46 GMT
#2806
For my townie pal palmar!

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