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On June 27 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:42 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Art I think w should move jealous up into the probably town.
Had a thought about him and his moosey read. Jean had a decent shot being mayor and lynching moosey wouldn't be a bad play to hard bus moosey there. Instead he gives a pretty good rationale read of a null.
Also even though moosey was about to flip scum he continued to give us reads because he had them, done.
Its kind of weak and,maybe a bit dumb but I think he's town now.
Why is sk so High again? I thought he was town already but yeah that's good reasoning. Skynx is that high because of his case on me which I find difficult to come from newbie scum. On June 27 2016 06:38 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:33 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu
Town
Quicktwist
Jean Valjean
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Townish
GlowingBear
-power gap-
Jealous
Emperorarechampion
Mildly leaning mafia
Superbia
Lean mafia
Ticktock Could you elaborate on why Chezinu is such a strong townread for you? I didn't see anything in his filter that would make me townread him, especially not so strongly. Start of my filter  To me this makes the rest of your reads feel diluted if you are mixing in joke reads into them. What are your true feelings about Chezinu's filter? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. No offense, but I find bias to be a poor mentality for this sort of game. Let me rephrase the question - What are your objective thoughts on Chezinu's filter? In other words, if you were not his friend, what would you make of his participation so far? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. I don't like this answer ): Objectively analyzing a filter and sharing your conclusions would be to the benefit of the town, and you are dodging the responsibility.
I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend.
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On June 27 2016 07:13 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 06:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:50 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:42 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote:
Art I think w should move jealous up into the probably town.
Had a thought about him and his moosey read. Jean had a decent shot being mayor and lynching moosey wouldn't be a bad play to hard bus moosey there. Instead he gives a pretty good rationale read of a null.
Also even though moosey was about to flip scum he continued to give us reads because he had them, done.
Its kind of weak and,maybe a bit dumb but I think he's town now.
Why is sk so High again? I thought he was town already but yeah that's good reasoning. Skynx is that high because of his case on me which I find difficult to come from newbie scum. On June 27 2016 06:38 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 06:33 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Absolutely 100% confirmed town
Chezinu
Town
Quicktwist
Jean Valjean
Damdred
Skynx
Tumblewood
Townish
GlowingBear
-power gap-
Jealous
Emperorarechampion
Mildly leaning mafia
Superbia
Lean mafia
Ticktock Could you elaborate on why Chezinu is such a strong townread for you? I didn't see anything in his filter that would make me townread him, especially not so strongly. Start of my filter To me this makes the rest of your reads feel diluted if you are mixing in joke reads into them. What are your true feelings about Chezinu's filter? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. No offense, but I find bias to be a poor mentality for this sort of game. Let me rephrase the question - What are your objective thoughts on Chezinu's filter? In other words, if you were not his friend, what would you make of his participation so far? I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. I don't like this answer ): Objectively analyzing a filter and sharing your conclusions would be to the benefit of the town, and you are dodging the responsibility. I will not lynch the Chezinu. He is my friend. Think he is jealous?
He might be..
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On June 27 2016 15:00 Superbia wrote:
If there's a cop check between TT and damd btw.
Maaaybe Artanis.
Wait, so from your top townread I'm now your 3rd scummiest player?
Can you explain how this happened? And why is this happening?
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You're having the opposite read development as town which is weird to begin with, but you also said when I asked you earlier why you were less certain on me that it was because other people were scumreading me, yet your townread was strongest when I was still being scumread by many.
And now that many people came around on me, you put me in as your 3rd favoured check (and therefore presumably 3rd scummiest player). I find that very odd.
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On June 27 2016 17:22 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 17:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're having the opposite read development as town which is weird to begin with, but you also said when I asked you earlier why you were less certain on me that it was because other people were scumreading me, yet your townread was strongest when I was still being scumread by many.
And now that many people came around on me, you put me in as your 3rd favoured check (and therefore presumably 3rd scummiest player). I find that very odd. Or you know, other reasons. I am leaning one way on you in the spectrum. I feel your play yesterday was surprisingly meh. Not the stuff people scumread you for, but your interactions with Jean. Also you EoD joining Jean on his push on me was also superlame. Like I kind of understand how your read formed but it's just bad. If you really want to we can fight about this tomorrow, but it's probably a waste of time. The reality is that if Jean genuinely considered lynching me there then the game was on the edge of being lost for no real reason and it's a good part of the reason why I did not want him to be in any position of power (personally I also despise(d) his playing style and the fact that it paid off). Evaluate on the Moosy flip. Is me bussing the most likely scenario?
What in my interactions with Jean did you specifically find meh? Why did you find my play lackluster?
As for joining him on your push on you, I simply disagreed it'd make him scum. I wouldn't have wanted you as the lynch though, and you still aren't my preferred lynch. I'm not sure how you'd behave around MD if he was your buddy, need to contemplate on that.
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But now I'm going to watch the last GoT ep and cry that the season is over.
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Oh wow, that was some lecturing. Please try to keep the ego levels below a certain threshold 
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On June 27 2016 17:46 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 17:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 17:22 Superbia wrote:On June 27 2016 17:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You're having the opposite read development as town which is weird to begin with, but you also said when I asked you earlier why you were less certain on me that it was because other people were scumreading me, yet your townread was strongest when I was still being scumread by many.
And now that many people came around on me, you put me in as your 3rd favoured check (and therefore presumably 3rd scummiest player). I find that very odd. Or you know, other reasons. I am leaning one way on you in the spectrum. I feel your play yesterday was surprisingly meh. Not the stuff people scumread you for, but your interactions with Jean. Also you EoD joining Jean on his push on me was also superlame. Like I kind of understand how your read formed but it's just bad. If you really want to we can fight about this tomorrow, but it's probably a waste of time. The reality is that if Jean genuinely considered lynching me there then the game was on the edge of being lost for no real reason and it's a good part of the reason why I did not want him to be in any position of power (personally I also despise(d) his playing style and the fact that it paid off). Evaluate on the Moosy flip. Is me bussing the most likely scenario? What in my interactions with Jean did you specifically find meh? Why did you find my play lackluster? As for joining him on your push on you, I simply disagreed it'd make him scum. I wouldn't have wanted you as the lynch though, and you still aren't my preferred lynch. I'm not sure how you'd behave around MD if he was your buddy, need to contemplate on that. That he literally bullied you into voting him.His two scum reads were you and me (iirc). And I was generally townread at the time he came around. I'm just very annoyed that people voted him even though his (scum) reads were (probably) actually pretty shit. Especially you. He hard scumread you and he had a null/scumlean on me. And I was one of the only persons who was not going with the scumArtanis flow. It boggles my mind man. Anyway I will reveal what I think on the morrow but tbh I don't expect it to make it. :D
That's not really true. It was a culmination of many people tunneling on me that just got me massive game fatigue. That's why I voted for him at the time. Later on, it was because GB wanted to lynch emperor whilst Jean wanted to lynch MD which I found to be preferable.
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I think what's more important is that we start smurfhunting now.
Smurf is clearly a native english speaker. Only 48 hits on 'like', half of which being quotes eliminates Geript. I'd like to say that the egotisticalness displayed also eliminates Kita and Slam, and timezones kinda suggest a brit anyway. I'm kinda tempted to say holyflare but I don't think he'd have the energy to play atm. Marv and VE definitely wouldn't, at least not this way. Also too jolly to be DP.
I guess HF is still the most likely?
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On June 27 2016 19:38 Jean Valjean wrote:
I tried to read through Tumblewood's filter. At least the first part of it doesn't seem to have anything outright scummy, and he seems to be at least trying to probe what is going on in the game, so there's that.
I have a hard townread on TW and I don't remember entirely why. I think it was because his read development and inquiries felt very natural. He also helped push away from me getting lynched both by reading me townier and by proxy of pushing TT whereas it would be in mafia's best interests to get me lynched and assure it.
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Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder.
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On June 27 2016 19:48 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder. Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game.
I'd like your insight on who the smurf is though 
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On June 27 2016 19:50 Superbia wrote:
Also 1 mafia between TT and damdred seems likely:
- Both had a weak/dismissive read on Moosy.
- They are both good enough players that one of them would've noticed if they were both town.
I really don't like this. Many people had weak/dismissive reads on Moosy. I never even commented on the guy other than being okay with his lynch without really thinking he was likely to flip mafia. I also think they're both capable of misreading one another and continuing to do so.
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On June 27 2016 19:51 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 19:48 Superbia wrote:On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder. Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game. I'd like your insight on who the smurf is though Honestly idk. I've played too little with HF. I've never played with SuperSoft. I do kind of like HF as the smurf.
It's definitey not Supersoft, he wasn't as jolly and his ego was bigger. I apologize to whomever it is for even comparing the two.
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On June 27 2016 20:00 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 19:51 Superbia wrote:On June 27 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 19:48 Superbia wrote:On June 27 2016 19:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Is making most of my reads based on how people interact with me egocentric? I wonder. Don't worry. I think there are at least 2 egos bigger than yours this game. I'd like your insight on who the smurf is though Honestly idk. I've played too little with HF. I've never played with SuperSoft. I do kind of like HF as the smurf. It's definitey not Supersoft, he wasn't as jolly and his ego was bigger. I apologize to whomever it is for even comparing the two. It's Koshi. /s
You almost got me
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On June 27 2016 20:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 19:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think what's more important is that we start smurfhunting now.
Smurf is clearly a native english speaker. Only 48 hits on 'like', half of which being quotes eliminates Geript. I'd like to say that the egotisticalness displayed also eliminates Kita and Slam, and timezones kinda suggest a brit anyway. I'm kinda tempted to say holyflare but I don't think he'd have the energy to play atm. Marv and VE definitely wouldn't, at least not this way. Also too jolly to be DP.
I guess HF is still the most likely? This is silly and pretty pointless and I can't imagine will ever have any value. Unless you are trying to build a case that Jean is the smurf of somebody who is this tryhard and also lynched scum D1 when he didn't have too...
I'm really just having fun 
Also, if he follows his own rules and we talk about smurfs enough he should tell us to get us back on track.
You play how the town wants you to play, because that is the only way you play to win.
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On June 27 2016 20:44 Tictock wrote:
But w/e I've pondered it and I really don't think Art makes sense as scum anymore. He basically set aside his read on me and voted Jean to get Moosy lynched which scum almost never do.
So I think Jean, Super, and Art more or less as confirmed town.
Tumble also said something that reminded me I should recheck EoD votes.
That's a weird progression. There was no reasonable mayor candidate that wanted to lynch you; It was between Jean whom wanted to lynch MD and GB whom wanted to lynch Emperor at the end. There's still a case to be made for me being town if Emperor is since I voted a mayor that killed scum rather than town (even moreso if GB is scum), but it being because JVJ didn't want to kill you is not one of them.
If you're talking about earlier, I voted him to kill me so we could move on, not because I set aside my read on you.
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On June 27 2016 20:56 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 20:44 Tictock wrote:
But w/e I've pondered it and I really don't think Art makes sense as scum anymore. He basically set aside his read on me and voted Jean to get Moosy lynched which scum almost never do.
So I think Jean, Super, and Art more or less as confirmed town.
Tumble also said something that reminded me I should recheck EoD votes. That's a weird progression. There was no reasonable mayor candidate that wanted to lynch you; It was between Jean whom wanted to lynch MD and GB whom wanted to lynch Emperor at the end. There's still a case to be made for me being town if Emperor is since I voted a mayor that killed scum rather than town (even moreso if GB is scum), but it being because JVJ didn't want to kill you is not one of them. If you're talking about earlier, I voted him to kill me so we could move on, not because I set aside my read on you. I'm mostly referring to w/e post I quoted earlier that you made in EoD.
You mean this?
On June 27 2016 10:07 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 05:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah He won't do it and we can lynch TT later anyway. TT actually becomes more readable later on and dunno if MD does so I don't mind the shot. Humm, this is the first reasonable thing you've said about me. Maybe I've been wrong about you Art.
Bleh this makes me waffle on you for stupid reasons.
Mainly because I can very well envision myself mulling something like this over after realizing I might be wrong, kinda like I did with QT where at first you don't really want to admit it and it takes timee to come to terms with it.
Could also see it from scum realizing they need to change targets but it comes accross naturally.
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On June 27 2016 21:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Sigh
This is a hard game.
I know associative reads are bad but when I conaider teams in this game they are completely different
Can you just call me town so I can get NKed?
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On June 27 2016 21:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 21:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 21:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Sigh
This is a hard game.
I know associative reads are bad but when I conaider teams in this game they are completely different Can you just call me town so I can get NKed? Town
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