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On June 28 2016 01:35 emperorchampion wrote:@ TT this is from Jealous' filter (cause I realized damdred has 6 pages lul) Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 06:47 Jealous wrote:On June 27 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote:
Because I didn't want ec lynched, I came up with decent reasoning foe him to be town. Gb was apparently lurking and not interested in discussing the lynch.
Jean makes logical sense and cares and did the right thing for town. And was here actually trying to,figure things out.
I'd much rather someone who's here,figuring,out over someone who's not. Plus got a stronger town read on Jean. Good answer. The bold above is very much in line with the way I approached my vote as well.
Yea see I missed this kus I was looking for his reasoning before EoD.
Humm, this doesn't really explain why he waited so long to switch then...
Damdred's vote onto Jean was like 5 min before EoD.
For a moment I was thinking the switch happened when Jean said he'd lynch Super instead of Moosy.
On June 27 2016 05:56 Jean Valjean wrote:No, if I'm lynching scum instead of baddies, I'll be killing superbia I think
But it was actually just before that, basically when he posted this
On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah
So I guess that does track.
Humm, I'll mull this over some more and I still need to reread EoD in better detail.
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On June 28 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote:
It also makes a lot of sense for Damdred to move his vote to Jean if the scumteam is Moosy/Damdred/Emp.
Choice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched.
Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there.
Well with Emp flipping Red I think I'm back to this.
##Vote: Damdred
Good shit whoever was the Vig.
I'm playing magic with my roommates tonight and then I have sleep to catchup on. I might read a bit as we play, but wont really be around till tomorrow.
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Lol that people are voting me.
Maybe I'll actually get caught up to find out why.
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On June 28 2016 06:06 Superbia wrote:TT why'd you visit QT bro? 
Either you just fucked up SUPER bad (see what i did there?) as scum...
Or this is the worst fakeclaim on this site since December.
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Bleh idk what to think. This is kinda too retarded of a lie for scum kus there is no reason for Super to out himself like this when I flip.
I'm gunna assume you are not an idiot Super and this is a reaction test?
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Well back to my original plan... I'm gunna get down on some magic.
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On June 28 2016 16:17 Superbia wrote:
I also rescinded my tracker claim btw. TT should be evaluated separate of that. His reaction unfortunately means little.
Super can you explain to me a little bit more what you got out of your reaction test?
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Really nothing else?
What about what you mentioned about Jealous earlier?
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I'm asking kus I think you put an end to that rather quickly. Especially if you are still not sure if I am scum or not.
Seems like you could have pushed me a little more to really get the pressure going, but as it is despite my light responses to the claim you backed off right away.
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So who are you currently thinking is scum?
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Humm, I guess I buy that but it still seems weird that you'd drop the pressure w/o trying to get more of a reaction out of me. Or just get a better read on me and Damdred in general.
As it stands I take it the whole play was a wash?
+ Show Spoiler +Eh, I think I have pretty solid reasons to think you are town, but you've succesfully gotten me a little paranoid, so if we make it far enough expect a repeat of my play from the end of the last newbie.
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On June 28 2016 18:42 Superbia wrote:
Currently leaning between you and damd. Need to (re-)visit both your filters.
Also need to revisit Jealous/Skynx's filter. Would not be surprised it one of them was scum.
Jealous... maybe. His play feels a little different from last game, but not enough to make me nervous.
I'm actually like 90% sure Skynx is town. If I got pardoner I was gunna make him BG kus I felt that sure D1 and very little chance scum ever tried to kill him.
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I'm kinda waking up still so I'll revisit stuff in more detail after coffee and food.
In regards to Damdred.... he came off pretty sensible about the claim and seemed to be running through all the possibilities...
Which is kinda weird. Like I've been his main scumread all game and at first he was gung-ho, even said something like "Yes vindication" but later as he was discussing stuff he seemed to be coming from the PoV of me being town a lot, iirc he said it was because he thought I would probably concede in that position as scum.
The interesting thing about that is I've actually played a game with Damdred where as scum I got tracked to the NK. I actually spent a shit ton of effort trying to argue and keep myself alive despite that track and it wasn't until the next phase when a cop also came forward with a red check on me that I finally came clean. Now it wasn't the exact same situation, all of my team was still alive (well 2/3, Vivax was alive but had basically decided he wasn't going to play) and I think we were only a lynch or two away from winning... but the similarities are there.
The real interesting thing to me when I recall that game was that my initial reaction to that track was exactly "Welp I guess I'm a wanderer and the tracker claim is legit" Which Damdred steadily called BS on for the rest of the game and pushed me for that reaction. Here... he is considering that same thought process?
Ok maybe not exactly the same, I think he was mostly arguing that one of me or super was scum here, but I still find it interesting that he put so much thought into the possibility that I was a wanderer here and that Super was making a ballsy play. Neither of which are very likely from an objective standpoint.
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Though tbh I think I'm mostly locked into Damdred because of PoE at this point. I don't really see Chez being scum atm, but I also don't really know how to read him. I tonally read both Tumble and Jealous as town but I'm not sure I have really solid reasons to think they are for sure.
Everyone else I'm fairly confident in being town.
There was also a comment I recall Damdred making about Emp that I thought was weird, stands out even more with Emp flipping town. Gunna see if I can find it, then I'm doing morning stuff.
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On June 27 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote:
Because I didn't want ec lynched, I came up with decent reasoning foe him to be town. Gb was apparently lurking and not interested in discussing the lynch.
Jean makes logical sense and cares and did the right thing for town. And was here actually trying to,figure things out.
I'd much rather someone who's here,figuring,out over someone who's not. Plus got a stronger town read on Jean.
Ah yea this was it.
Ehh weaker than I thought, but the word choice is interesting imo. Not, "I believed him to be town kus of X" or "I saw something that made me think he was town" but "came up with decent reasoning..."
Sounds a lot like scum being proud of their reasoning to TR their buddy to me.
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On June 28 2016 01:33 Tictock wrote:
It also makes a lot of sense for Damdred to move his vote to Jean if the scumteam is Moosy/Damdred/Emp.
Choice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched.
Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there.
This also still just makes tons of sense to me.
Ok, I'll bbl.
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On June 28 2016 23:24 Damdred wrote:
Come now art it was almost a 600 page game with like twelve replacements!
It was hard for us all to stay motivated.
Though my motivation is kind of at a low point right now, whoops.
But on a different note jealous kind of looks bad tbh keeps hedging a bit but just keeps his read static. Kind of weird.
As for that game you are remembering the wrong game tt, the game you claimed wanderer with a red check you were gunsmith and got instantly lynched that day because onegu claimed a red check on you as scum.
Anyway any questions I'm around for a bit.
Nope you're thinking of Outlaw (I think?) I'm pretty sure the game I'm referring to was Nutcracker. Also I think I got lynched less because of the redcheck and more because of my bad reaction to it... you fake CC'ing my gunsmith claim may have also contributed.
+ Show Spoiler +
Anyways, regarding this game...
I'd still like to understand your thought process better around EoD. You said you wouldn't support GB or Super as mayor, explained it was because you didn't trust GB's ability to lynch scum and that his claim didn't matter to you. So why did you end up voting him before you switched to Jean right before deadline?
I'm also still a bit curious what made you think I was maybe town for the span of a post then went back to scum reading me, but I'm more interested in the GB stuff.
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Oh and I think both Super and Damred said Jealous had some TMI looking reactions to Super's fake claim.
Can one of you guys elaborate on that for me plz?
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On June 29 2016 01:53 Damdred wrote:
It is annoying though that all of my actions aside from voting Jean are ignores and it all comes down to me saving ec which makes no sense.
This is over simplifying things a bit imo.
For me it's that your EoD didn't track in a lot of ways and your involvement in picking a mayor was basically nothing but a couple posts saying it should be you for one of the positions.
There is the switch in your stance on Moosy from, "lets ignore him D1" to "I think he flips town, plz lynch TT"
It also felt a lot like Emp was trying to defend you from my pressure during the night. Your townread on him formed basically right after GB started pressuring him, and that quote I posted earlier was weird phrasing that mighta been a scum slip + Show Spoiler +It's at least as likely to be a scum slip as the thing you were on about from Skynx
None of these by themselves are terribly conclusive, but that's associative stuff with both flipped scum and just a general sense that your game is off and reads aren't tracking very well. It's a pretty solid pile of stuff that is hard to overlook.
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On June 29 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2016 02:10 Skynx wrote:On June 29 2016 02:06 GlowingBear wrote:On June 29 2016 01:51 Damdred wrote:
I really don't know what to do with you GB, I had obviously clear stances d1.
Ec actually gave a thought I really liked didn't want to Lynch him, it's clearly documented, so I break policy and kill moose. Wifom as it is in that situation I know I'm probably going to solo it so why not kill the person who gives the most cred.
In any case the reasoning against me is pretty light.
I can excuse sk he's new never played with me, but some of you others tsk. Espevially after last game Tumblewood. Tsk indeed.
Feel my ire of soft words and loving caresses.
In any case I think the games over with a jealous Lynch. I'll put up a case on you. After I do that you can defend yourself and just try to convince me. That's all you can do It can happen, tho. I'm not that prick I used to be anymore. I think. Lol thank you. I was debating pulling a case together or watching got Leave it to me 
I think I'm helping!
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