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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:46 Damdred wrote: OK? So if you think he's scum why do you have him as shitty town pile? I need something that actually convinces myself. Let me try to explain it differently. 1. Before this game I believe I have a meta-mafia-tell on LS. 2. LS displays this tell. 3. I am actually not convinced LS is mafia yet (gut), so I'm looking for something more. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
vote: Palmar | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:50 LightningStrike wrote: The only scumread if any from me would be palmar. Like JAT said his entrance was rather lackluster and he refused to answer my question on why is he scumreading me. Plus it's not the weekend so I finding it confusing that he haven't done much at all. For now we should vote Palmar and if he's town he will actually start to do shit. ##vote: Palmar | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote: I see smart post I agree. This problem how? If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town? Why are you not reading him town? It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Plynch Candidiates: 2. ritoky 3. Rels 6. Palmar 7. marvellosity 8. sicklucker Possible Tryhard Scums: 1. Holyflare 4. LightningStrike 5. Koshi Rolf me as a tryhard scum? The only scumgame I really tryhard was Cell because Damdred was on my team but outside of that I didn't really tryhard as hard as scum ever. I sorry for framing you in my first scum game with ;D | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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justanothertownie
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On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote: If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town? Why are you not reading him town? It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out. I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right? | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:55 LightningStrike wrote: Damdred, JAT, and Superbia you guys should vote Palmar with me and Koshi. I pretty sure that he's scum at this point. Go ahead, interested to see what comes out of it. Personally would get some more reads out of others, starting with Ritoky. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:55 LightningStrike wrote: Damdred, JAT, and Superbia you guys should vote Palmar with me and Koshi. I pretty sure that he's scum at this point. Don't worry bro. If he keeps not doing anything I will gladly join your wagon. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote: I guess it is my turn now to say that I have a hard time believing you are this short sighted as town, right? Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 24 2016 21:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: ##RMC: tumblewood Rito Mafia Check of Tumblewood Holyflare's Case: + Show Spoiler + On May 24 2016 20:50 Holyflare wrote: I mean it when I say you aren't reaching conclusions. You just returned to the thread and basically ignored everything on the past few pages (since you haven't reevaluated anything since I "revealed" (it was quite obvious) the LS posts were to get something started). I can only assume that you are pointing out things to appear to contribute but are not able to follow through with the correct evaluation of what it means. The perfect example of this is that since you didn't read my tidbit about the LS case being fake pressure - obviously - you assume that I was still serious about LS and call it bad. However, if you were thinking this through logically your own evaluation would be that I was mafia, which you have stated I should be. You also stated that I would be mafia because I called up the case with 100% certainty. Now, you think Koshi is town as you stated. You also think I was serious with the LS case but instead of what logically should confirm your suspicions on me you just meander about with other non committal things. To surmise, I think you are a slightly lost mafia making observations but not able to attribute these observations to a towny mindset and follow through. ##unvote ##vote Tumblewood The most prominent point of HF's case is entirely accurate and indicative of a player not having a town mindset. It is very clear prior to tumble leaving the thread that he finds a great deal of interesting things happening around the Koshi/HF/Damdred/LS/Kush discussion and sequence of events; particularly in regards to Holyflare. Upon returning to the thread, there is a page long or more discussion specifically between Koshi and HF about the sequence of events that tumble found was at least interesting and potentially alignment indicative; yet he specifically chooses to ignore it entirely. He gives no commentary on it, makes no conclusions, gains no stated reads from it, and treats it like it didn't happen. Him not caring about his reads or being quick to drop them could just be a player style thing however, it is inconsistent with other reads he has given: On May 25 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote: No it's not, I'm not voting LS in a million years. There is no benefit if he is scum, besides my worthless TR and getting yelled at for TMI On May 25 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: Super gets some solid points for actually caring about the game/his reads Anyone that thinks that emotion was faked can shut up Where was this level of interest or conviction in your reads before? You clearly have "passion" about your reads, so why have you not revisited your read that has the most depth of discussion? Rito bot believes it is because it serves you no purpose, you gain nothing from it; whereas your LS read in particular seems like a blatant attempt to pocket a player. Independent Analysis: Extremism On May 24 2016 14:20 Tumblewood wrote: Have to catch a flight at 5:30 tomorrow morning >< going to be afk all day except maybe during the layover or at night I keep getting all excited because this is the game I'm gonna try real hard in and then getting sidelined by RL Way too much explanation for an excuse for inactivity. Mafia tend to over-justify their inactivity. On May 25 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote: This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum. On May 25 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote: No it's not, I'm not voting LS in a million years. There is no benefit if he is scum, besides my worthless TR and getting yelled at for TMI Pocket attempt by 1 of these two players. 1 of them is almost certainly mafia (currently leaning tumble); LS gives tumble an undeserved town read at a moment when he is low on the totem pole and Tumble overreacts in defense of LS simply because LS calls him town. It is far too dramatic of a read over someone simply calling you town and nothing else. "It does not serve him if he is mafia".....if he is mafia he just pocketed you, serves him pretty well. Your stalwart defense of LS makes no real justifiable sense....at least not with the basis you have given. On May 25 2016 02:53 Tumblewood wrote: Super gets some solid points for actually caring about the game/his reads Anyone that thinks that emotion was faked can shut up This post just simply read as extreme reactions to a minor thing. There exists this inherent disconnect between mafia and town in terms of how they view individual posts, due to mafia having perfect information often times certain posts which they know to be correct and for the right reasons seem SUPER townie to them while to a townie the same post seems "meh town". This is an example of that. Superbia's post was very "meh town", not "I will fight you this is so town". I think this is simply another example of tumble being over the top in a place where it makes no sense as town. Conclusion: Mafia | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote: Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well. If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players. This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 25 2016 03:53 LightningStrike wrote: Rolf me as a tryhard scum? The only scumgame I really tryhard was Cell because Damdred was on my team but outside of that I didn't really tryhard as hard as scum ever. I sorry for framing you in my first scum game with ;D Wrong person I forgot that was bats. Man I wish bats was still playing lol. On May 25 2016 03:58 justanothertownie wrote: Don't worry bro. If he keeps not doing anything I will gladly join your wagon. Why not now? If he's town all these votes will actually make him do stuff. If he's scum he will roll over and die. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On May 24 2016 20:28 Tumblewood wrote: Theory: 2 or more scum haven't posted yet or have less than three posts Also theory: Posting at 4 AM is dumb There exists no town purpose to this post. If you're going to attempt to apply pressure on to inactive players, why refer to them anonymously rather than call them out directly? This does not apply the desired pressure and I find it to be a waste of space and an easy post to make to blanket seem like you're doing something. I sincerely doubt any inactive player felt any heat to post more because of what you said here. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:06 LightningStrike wrote: Wrong person I forgot that was bats. Man I wish bats was still playing lol. Why not now? If he's town all these votes will actually make him do stuff. If he's scum he will roll over and die. Too lazy to vote. And I disagree - I don't think voting him right now will make him do anything regardless of his alignment. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On May 25 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote: If I townread HF each game where I agreed with him on some things then I would never scumread him. Same goes for marv and several other players. This line of reasoning is bullshit and you should know better. Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said: I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells. Can others give some input on this? | ||
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Superbia
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justanothertownie
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On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote: Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said: I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells. Can others give some input on this? I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this. | ||
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