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blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
May 27 2016 16:12 GMT
#144
I used to play this game on other sites.

/in
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 02 2016 07:16 GMT
#188
/confirm
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 03 2016 18:46 GMT
#251
On June 04 2016 02:52 NocturneMage wrote:
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On June 04 2016 02:03 Shapelog wrote:
Game will start tonight, darth has have over 24 hours to respond. If he is still a no show in 2 hours, I will put kush in, and put him in replacements.

Game will on 23:00 GMT (+00:00) tonight. Roles will go out a hour earlier, followed by a hour silence till game's start.


Roles out in .
Silence period in .
Game starts in .


what about the hour between roles going out and the silence period?
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 03 2016 19:21 GMT
#255
On June 04 2016 04:00 Half the Sky wrote:
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On June 04 2016 03:58 QuickTwist wrote:
So does the game happen in this thread or what?


Yes. The host will prompt when to start and stop posting throughout the game in this thread.

You CAN vote in this thread, for the sake of clarity for other players, but there is a voting thread, so you must vote there, this is so that hosts don't accidentally miss votes - it will matter in tiebreakers.

edit for blkcoffee - looks like Mage accounted for the time between role distribution and silence to me.


I didn't know how long it took for roles to be distributed but that makes sense
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 03 2016 23:08 GMT
#309
interesting back story. Nicely written
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 03 2016 23:15 GMT
#322
On June 04 2016 08:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Town read on Jealous.


Would you please explain this to me
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 03 2016 23:53 GMT
#398
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
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On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:02 GMT
#408
On June 04 2016 08:59 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


I explained this partially but I will explain to those who may not understand the intricacies of this.

Sup is trying to look like he is town. So either he is playing some really fantastic head games with people and he wants people to vote him to see who picks up on his scummy behavior and votes Obvscum OR he is just really bad Scum who is trying to look like they are scum hunting in the most obvious straightforward way possible. I don't think he is so dumb that he could legit be Town trying to scum hunt, but at this point I can't rule that out I guess.


Do you think that town should try to look townie and eliminate themselves from the lynch pool.
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:14 GMT
#429
On June 04 2016 08:59 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?

That's fine, they are there for anyone who is curious, and were presented solely as some substantive evidence against Tumblewood's flimsy read.

What I think of Quick town-reading me so early is that he is that he is potentially trying to make allies among people he would know are confirmed townie, because he is mafia. Or, in retrospect, as my first post in response to him and Superbia was more or less stating that I found their behavior suspicious, he aims to pass that suspicion onto me by making it seem like I am in cohorts with them, or something. The fact that he is a newcomer to TL Mafia may have something to do with the fact that he is playing, in my opinion, fast and dangerous.


This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up.
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:17 GMT
#434
On June 04 2016 09:14 Superbia wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?


Do follow up on this. You said some things about me and some things about jealous/quicky. Both of these latter indicate that you have read quicky's posts. How did you come to the conclusion that quicky's posts are clean but not catch that he townread like 4 people?


This is the first really exciting post. An excellent point
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:29 GMT
#449
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:32 GMT
#456
On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.


Typing on a phone is difficult apparently.

So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear?
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 00:45 GMT
#473
I'm going to sleep and allow my sleeping mind to work on the game .
I dont have any strong reads right now and the game has felt cluttered.
Jealous I'm enjoying the zeal and the analysis. Your points are interesting but try to take things less seriously and avoid shit fighting . I want to read your good points so focus on that
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 07:49 GMT
#585
I have work soon and I can't bring myself to read through all of Jesus's huge posts.

I'll be back in the evening.
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 13:50 GMT
#607
On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote:
ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2
or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time.


What would you say to the argument that being tryhard doesn't make you scummy. I'm also a bit confused how they are both independently scummy here for your reasons as qt has been quick to give town reads and posting lots of goofy images. This isn't really tryhard behaviour.

Overall I'm not convinced that one of then has to be scum and certainly not swayed by your reasoning
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 13:57 GMT
#608
On June 04 2016 20:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
No one is going to even find that post. It's a needle in a haystack.

For me it's irrelevant because we aren't lynching either of you today.


This is my feeling aswell
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 15:29 GMT
#624
On June 05 2016 00:13 Tictock wrote:
Ok looks like I've only got about an hour this morning before I'm heading out for the day.

Gunna stuff my face and get some caffeine in my system then talk about some stuff.


Solid build order.


blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 15:34 GMT
#625
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.

blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 16:18 GMT
#630
On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm back early
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On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.


If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town.


So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion?
blkcoffee
Profile Joined May 2016
35 Posts
June 04 2016 16:51 GMT
#638
On June 05 2016 01:29 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:18 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 05 2016 01:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm back early
On June 05 2016 00:34 blkcoffee wrote:
I read Jesus and at as two townies refusing to back down. I don't see much more to it .

Skynx and tumblewood both seem convinced that there has to be mafia in those two. Although skynx is sure it's qt.

I'm not convinced by either of the arguments and the case on qt by skynx seems to paint every qt action as scummy which I don't think is the correct approach.


If you read carefully, I've just called his posting pattern useless. He's not making any sensible pushes and his reads don't have any basis. Be he mafia or no, keeping him around does not benefit town.


So what exactly is your read. If he flipped what would he be in your opinion?

Depends on what happens next 24h before lynch. If he flips scum we can make cases on other peoples reaction on him. If he flips town what a shame we will have less spam for rest of the game.


Sorry I wasn't clear. Right now what is your read on qt? I'm not really too bothered on your read of him after he flips.
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