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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 01:31 GMT
#1620
On June 10 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote:
Ok I said I was gunna hold off, but mulling things over I think I feel pretty good about Moosy's claim. As such I propose we have a very solid town circle of Moosy, Jealous, and myself (I think I can backup why I am town if I need to).

I also feel pretty good about Emp being town still.

So question to Moosy and Jealous. What do you guys think about Emp?

Assuming for a moment that he is town, who do you think the last townie is? (between Skynx, Scott and Super)

+ Show Spoiler [Irony] +
This reminded me...
On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote:
scumlist v2.0
everyone whose name starts with s because scum also starts with s



Personally I could actually see a team of BtDt, Skynx and Super/Scott.

These are actually my thoughts although I haven't thought about the 3rd member too much yet tbh. I think emperor has to be town judging by the way beentheredonethat was willing to throw him away so easily. And all of beentheredonethat's pushes have been on townies so that's what I'm going to go by.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 05:32 GMT
#1626
On June 05 2016 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 09:03 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2016 06:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
The difference is I try to be annoying, vague, terrible, and disgusting at the game on purpose. That is, unless QuickTwist is trying to be all these things too.

Why? Facade so it would be harder to read you?

Well, it's supposed to be bait for D1 ya know? If you play bad,Mafia will go for you thinking you're an easy mislynch. Unfortunately it's just a case of low hanging fruit and I've had Mafia's go for me every game. :D This style's actually worked out every game I've used it in except for two. One where I nailed 2 Mafia on D1 but got lynched because a major town with a lot of pull said to kill me and the second where I was tunneled. But regardless, town's managed to get a Mafia from my antics most of the time. Unfortunately, everyone in TL who's a veteran has pretty much wised up to my antics which means no one falls for my BS anymore. But I find it pretty fun so I just go ahead with the style anyway.

So yeah, I guess it's a facade to make it difficult to read me but at this point every veteran can read me.

I guess it still worked this game tbh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 05:39 GMT
#1627
On June 10 2016 13:15 Tictock wrote:
Honestly though, either way you've played a great game Mooosy.

Thanks! tbh the only thing I really did of merit was the red cop check. Luckily I checked him or I would still be townreading him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 05:40 GMT
#1628
On June 10 2016 13:58 Superbia wrote:
Also morning. About to start my breakfast ritual

doooooood. thoughts? who do you think are mafia? what do you think of my claim?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#1725
On June 10 2016 21:03 Superbia wrote:
If moosy is fake then there is a town vigi/cop that can CC him.

this is not going to happen because mafia would have to poke their heads up and expose another teammate. btdt already mishandled the counterclaim.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 13:16 GMT
#1726
If you just want to confirm I'm cop, look at my filter all of D2. I'm basically assuming Jealous is town the whole time because of my check.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 13:33 GMT
#1731
ofc you want the most interesting situations. -__-
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 13:37 GMT
#1735
second is probably skynx, no idea about 3rd haven't even thought about it yet
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 13:38 GMT
#1736
it might be you, tictock, any number of people. mafia did their job of slimming down the list of guaranteed townies well.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 14:20 GMT
#1749
I already answered why I checked btdt Skynx. You might want to take a look at my filter.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1763
On June 11 2016 02:11 Jealous wrote:
I'm Vet.

BTDT is scum.

Moosy is cop.

Anyone defending BTDT is probably scum also.

Superbia by extension must be town.

Discuss.

looool nice
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:18 GMT
#1765
high five jealous!
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:20 GMT
#1766
it worries me slightly that btdt is tryharding to not be lynched but i'm going to hope shapelog actually did balance this game so that we don't actually have vet, doctor, and cop all in one game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 18:27 GMT
#1767
On June 11 2016 03:18 beentheredonethat wrote:
Great. It's vet and doc then and you're not only lynching the doc, you also revealed the last blue to scum. Once I flip, the game is over if I counted correctly.

GG MoosyDoosy, Superbia, and whoever is your third.

nah. there's never a set up with two protective roles.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:22 GMT
#1775
On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.

It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.

As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:

Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy

Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.

I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.

My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.

I kinda want to townread scott because of this post.

On June 09 2016 18:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay, hello everyone. I am here, having some "spare" time at work, and will be here for the next few hours. Seeing MoosyDoosy's development in the last day, I want to refrain from my scum read. I think his participation and also the value of his posts greatly increased during the last cycle, and although I do not agree fully with everything that he says, I can see and understand where he's coming from with his opinions and reads.

Contrary to day one, we actually had two wagons forming, one on emperorchampion and one on kushmountains. For some time, it was a rather close call (4 votes vs. 4 votes), and EC himself plus Jealous where responsible for the final hammer on thekushmountains. Jealous IMHO is still a townie although I'm feeling a bit paranoid about the blank pass I gave him thus far. Not enough to not townread him though.

We have had only two wagons. So I say we lynch emperorchampion the next day and we'll learn a LOT: if he flips scum, we can be pretty sure that at least two, maybe all three scummers have voted the thekushmointains train. There was noone (besides kush himself) who voted outside of the wagons which makes me assume that this lynch wagon was actually a scum vs. town wagon.

If there is a vigilante in, I strongly suggest to kill emperorchampion this night. Superbia already did this but then said it's a bad idea - I don't think it's a bad idea. Emperorchampion has the highest chance to flip scum out of everyone who's currently playing this game IMHO.

Also, what about blkCoffee? Having someone in who's potentially lurking can be (and is!) detrimental for town. It's the second time he did not vote nor is he participating. Will we see a flip any time soon? A replacement?


I kinda want to townread emperorchampion because of this post.

Which makes the townies:
Jealous
Moosy
emperorchampion
scott31337

Rest to sort:
Skynx
Tictock
Superbia

Mafia:
beentheredonethat
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:23 GMT
#1776
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:26 GMT
#1779
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

Alright nice.

A team of Tictock/Skynx/beentheredonethat fits with the idea of a low-key scum team that didn't have much thread presence but was quiet enough that town was lost in the early chaos at the start of the game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:27 GMT
#1780
On June 11 2016 05:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2016 05:25 Jealous wrote:
On June 11 2016 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Jealous, why are you townreading Superbia again? Just want to make sure.

He was the first to jump on BTDT for the inconsistency and didn't question your claim. Of course, he could be throwing a scum under the bus after newbie scum made a mistake, but I find that possibility to be so outlandish. Overall, he's been nothing but benefit to the town. If he is scum, it is the greatest scum play of all time.

EBWOP it may be worthwhile to examine his previous reads to look for inconsistencies, but I have company over so I can't atm.

Yeah I did that. His early reads are actually remarkably correct and it can be a ballsy scum play to call everything at the start of the game (like when I double bused my teammates when I was Mafia once) but I don't think he'd draw suspicion to beentheredonethat too early as you stated.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:46 GMT
#1783
On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in.

I hold Jealous' claim for genuine.

More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy?

Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target.

Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip.

Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense.

That's straaange. Then I guess we really do have a doctor, cop, and veteran. :3 Well, we still have a day left anyway until we see your flip.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 10 2016 20:48 GMT
#1784
The only other possibility I can see is if Jealous is the Godfather but that would be quite something.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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