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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 14 2016 22:59 GMT
#2189
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 14 2016 23:12 GMT
#2205
The dream is alive.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 14 2016 23:14 GMT
#2209
TT is confirmed for me. So much for tonight.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:23 GMT
#2231
On June 15 2016 11:16 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote:
Final Day 4 vote count




emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx
Scott31337(0): Skynx, Emperorchampion
Tictock(1) Jealous, Superbia, Emperorchampion
Skynx(1): Scott31337, Emperorchampion



Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched.

Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself.

Man why you're answering yourself?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:30 GMT
#2232
On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote:
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On June 15 2016 11:26 Tictock wrote:
On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote:
Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x;


This is such a shit post right before EoD.

Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum"


How does any of this make me scum?

Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum?

Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT?

You don't have to defend yourself here, Scott was never getting lynched cuz TT was absent.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 15 2016 12:35 GMT
#2233
On June 15 2016 14:55 Jealous wrote:
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On June 15 2016 14:30 scott31337 wrote:
On June 15 2016 08:22 Jealous wrote:
On June 15 2016 08:19 Superbia wrote:
You do realize that if people had actually suddenly switched I probably would've voted back on EC?

I have questions but I'd rather see how Scott responds first.

Scott if you dodge this scenario in the next 24 hours I will raise hell.


Could you be more specific?

Tbh I am drunk so idk what I was thinking but it makes no sense to me right now so disregard this atm.


What did you actually mean by that? It wouldn't make sense holding anything back from your point of view cuz you're confirmed town and prolly dead in couple of hours so try to explain your thought process please.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 16 2016 18:09 GMT
#2251
On June 16 2016 15:38 Superbia wrote:
@work
Skynx, please explain your thought rationale behind "being tactically afk" during EoD2.

You mean after EoD1. I was travelling N1 and didn't have internet on EoD2.
I don't know how we keep coming back to this. Pages 51-52 was mega active in terms of reads, list posts, questionnaires and I was the main target of accusations cuz of mislynch on QT.
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On June 06 2016 13:11 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 06 2016 13:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On June 06 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff

wow that is shit
all of those people are town

Dude ibbet tt or ec is scum tho

gonna have to convince me because I'm not really seeing it
either way we're lynching skynx tomorrow (or maybe you or scott... definitely neither of emperor or tt though)


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On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Sorry ff isn't scummy.
Hmmm this dude skanks tho...
Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post.

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On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote:
Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter:
1: Contentless town reads
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On June 04 2016 09:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
ah goddammit I'm going after the low-hanging fruit
I'll be back when kush or someone is in the thread so I can be productive


I think this is a townie response.

Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion.

2: Memes & one liners
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On June 04 2016 09:46 QuickTwist wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:44 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:39 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:35 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:
[quote]

This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up.


[image loading]

Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies.


you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes".

Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection.


yeah, and really really super obvious as well.

Knowing nothing about you or your play style and only judging from the content that you present, it's logical to use Ockham's razor and go with the most obvious explanation. You continue to dodge post after post, question after question, and only cast doubt upon the analysis of others by trying to debase them without any substance whatsoever.


You know what I think? I think you should hold off your judgement until you DO know my playstyle.

Or maybe you can answer some questions and show your play style through analysis and not through mindless macros and unsubstantiated claims.


[image loading]

This doesn't add anything to the conversation and he seems to like it as a cheap way of not elaborating things further. His filter page3 reeks of just memes and one liners. These are just useless spam.

3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense
So tumble posted this about the spam
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On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
hi kush
On June 04 2016 10:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
The single biggest indicator of alignment is consistent activity. That is why we need to kill a lurker day 1.

okay with plynches but not for that reason. in newbie games mafia is lynched almost never on d1 so I'd rather take my chances on someone who won't contribute than someone who might turn out to be a helpful townie

His response:
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On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is.

4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff
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On June 04 2016 13:18 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:35 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Jealous which between myself and quicky is more suspicious?


What is the point to this question?


Sup, can you answer this question now?

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On June 04 2016 13:23 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


Do you think quicky (QT) is town?

50/50 like for reading and applying Incognito's guide / dislike for maybe (?) hiding behind Incognito's guide instead of speaking for yourself
also Incognito's guide is pretty old and now there are a lot of players that spam as both alignments


Link to guid?

These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him.

Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:18 QuickTwist wrote:
I will not be living tomorrow.



##Vote: QuickTwist




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On June 06 2016 13:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 12:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Night moosey. Feel free to start finding scum any time now.

good night !!

I'm tempted to call you mafia for seeming to know quicktwist's alignment so well and it would make complete sense for you and jealous to be teammates but I'm not 100% sure on that read. Aaaand you're calling Skynx mafia which is one of my reads. hmph

tumblew00d, beeentheeereeedoneeethat seem town. and shitfeast. oh and some tickitytock. i do like coffee too so i'm going with bikcafé.

no idea about scotterino31337. he was town but that was be4 he got his role. there's superbia who i really really really really really really really really really really really really really want to kill but he looks town.

which leaves me with emperorchAmpi0n, skankyskynx as scum.

oh and you and jealous are in a weird spot for me. :D It's the special place in my heart where everyone too scummy to be town and too townie to be blue are in.

one thing i know for certain is that i'm not going to die tonight since i'm the mafia goon and i'm dealing out the kp this night. ALso i'm doctor so i'm gonna protect skynx. aaaand as veteran i have another life so i'm completely oK for this night.



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On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.

It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.

As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:

Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy

Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.

I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.

My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.



Now I found that very interesting as why would everyone all of a sudden became so active in a period where mafia has all the power. In my opinion one of these had to be scum due to the fact that they were fairly inactive D1 and now trying to get a wagon going on on me in a period where they can't even vote.
I was basically drawing conclusions that can lead me to post reads in D2 where I can actually vote.
So imo Tumble was town because he already tried to shift the shennanie towards me. Moosy was unreadable and btdt post was bollocks in terms of reads. That led me to vote kush.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 16 2016 18:42 GMT
#2252
I will post some final thoughts on everyone soon, possibly just 1 today cuz I'm actually so tired.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 16 2016 20:39 GMT
#2254
I actually closed my 3 day analysis draft fml I'll re-write it early tomorrow so US guys have plenty of time to read...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 07:55 GMT
#2280
Tictock man why did you fake pressure Super, just to bait me?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 08:09 GMT
#2281
Don't worry guys i ##concede.
I was feeling like doodling around with mega filter digs yesterday but I'll be quite busy today until the evening. I don't think i can recover from here anyway, I didn't even expect to survive D3.

Shoutout to Relsjwa. WP everyone, sry for early gg
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 09:11 GMT
#2291
Yeah Moosy check won the game imo. We framed emp and I was supposed to die D3. We were between FF & Moosy for the active blue role :/
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 13:40 GMT
#2321
On June 17 2016 21:56 Jealous wrote:
From the mafia QT, quoting Skynx after D1:

"Moosy, super n jealous are nonfactors."

I have great respect for Moosy and Super for crafting this image when in the end they proved to be two of the most pivotal town players. No shame on you Skynx, D1/2 were mad confusing, it felt like the wild wild West. But to have these two players come out in force in D3 and be "non-factors" in D2 is just so pro.

no disrespect here
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 17 2016 14:21 GMT
#2323
Some stuff from my pm's since these would be in qt anyway. If anyone interested

+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From Rels:
Gl hf
What tt is doing is townie and if you have the time to commit to it you should do it too: go through every filter of the people still living and point out things you find of note,t townie or scummy. Then decide your lynch target based of it

Show nested quote +
Original Message From Skynx:
I'm gona go for the safe option. Fingers crossed

Original Message From Rels:
As you prefer!
The Superbia's point is good. You shouldn't attack Superbia with that point though if you don't intend to push him. You can ask him about his thought process though, that is townie. You can always keep it in your pocket and pull it out if you decide to push him.

Original Message From Skynx:
Yeah, i know its super ballsy. I have to think about it. My pow now is that if I kill Jealous, Scott will 100% vote for me and me pushing TT wont do anything cuz even if I get superbia on my side its still 2-2.
If I kill TT his claims on Super will get some credit but i don't know if that will make Jeal/Scott rethink. They have to believe I'm not ballsy enough to get rid of my only credible opponent.

Another thought, should i mention that super's shennanies dont mean anything as we'd need 1 more to switch from emp? He said he'd switch back to emp if me n emp jumped on Scott which is stupid because we still can't kill him.

Original Message From Rels:
Now your idea has some merits, but you have to be pretty damn sure it will work to kill TT over a confirmed town. Killing a confirmed town means more chance to win mathematically, cause people has more chance to be wrong, as shown by TT pushing Superbia right now. Killing TT for the WIFOM is a big risk.

Original Message From Skynx:
Alright, I think there is only 2 plays left:

Conventional play: Where i kill Jealous in the night and try to fight a cause for TT.
Curveball play: Where i push for TT as last scum during the night cuz EC/Scott is not possible then kill TT.
I'm thinking more and more towards second one cuz normal play would not cut it from now on imo. What happens if i get a mislynch and its 1 on 1 on final day?
Original Message From Rels:
So it has come to the final showdown! Be strong and ask any question you have ^^
Any idea about who to kill ? Jaleous is the obvious one but what are your thoughts ?


+ Show Spoiler +


Original Message From emperorchampion:
Good game man, GL for the rest!

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Original Message From Skynx:
Hehe this is on the edge i must admit, its a very fine line

Original Message From emperorchampion:
Be careful not to get baited into revealing as mafia!

Original Message From Skynx:
Cheers for the update! I feel like just playing with the feels from now on. Maybe i can dig a bit more trying to convince Jealous but its beyond that i think.

You gona be around for shennanies?

Original Message From emperorchampion:
Grats on the last few posts! I'm trying to cook up something, hopefully the lynch will go off on me leaving you more free to choose the kill (also i think you have more persuasive power / better posting).

Here is some advice from Rels regarding the last few days (a little late now):

man I realized I forgot to write the post I said I would do ...
Basically, don't do too much right now. You would waste some effort because the towncred acquired by effort is quickly lost if you don't do much after that. Just push & vote Skynx while making a few posts.
The most important thing is to talk with other people. I saw you did that a little already, it's good. Just talk to scott / Jaelous / TT when they do a post to talk about it like you did these last few pages.
As soon as the next night starts (or next day if you don't feel you can be super active for 3 deays in a row) you should try to become super active to "find" the last scum and gain a lot of towncred in the process. A newbie being active is always a towntell because playing scum is hard.

If you can reread the game during D5 and show it by quoting posts and bullshitting how they make scott or TT scum it would be great but I dunno if you have that kind of time to "waste" on doing that

Original Message From Skynx:
Nice. Well, Moosy was incredibly lucky he didn't check you, we're unlucky we didn't kill him last night too. :p
Cu tomorrow!

Original Message From emperorchampion:
Yeah, I have a feeling that they are fake reading me though to draw out confidence. But we shall see, I haven't been too disappointed by the town so far

I submitted to rb/kill moosy tonight.

Original Message From Skynx:
3/5 town reads you. You will get one of Scott/TT D5 and we win, I'm dead tomorrow

Original Message From emperorchampion:
Yeah I think we have to leave Jealous unfortunately, unless I get lynched next day, in which case you could kill him maybe.

Original Message From Skynx:
Yeh I get what you mean. If we plan on leaving Jealous alive, which we should, we won't b needing my RB anymore so yeah I don't mind killing Moosy.

[quote]
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 19 2016 17:49 GMT
#2342
I don't think a lot of people were convinced QT was scum but people were too late to jump off the train
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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