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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 23 2016 15:41 GMT
#121
At the bottom of the page there is a drop down menu with all the players. That makes it so you don't have to go to the op to find someone's filter.
Also you can filter multiple people at once. This is really good for looking at how two people interacted. Also you can filter a player plus the host. This makes it so you can easily contextualize someone's posts with what day it was and most recent vote count.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-23 15:44:53
May 23 2016 15:44 GMT
#122
On May 24 2016 00:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
At the bottom of the page there is a drop down menu with all the players. That makes it so you don't have to go to the op to find someone's filter.

??? Or you can just click the filter button below their post?
Also you can filter multiple people at once. This is really good for looking at how two people interacted. Also you can filter a player plus the host. This makes it so you can easily contextualize someone's posts with what day it was and most recent vote count.

I 100% agree with this being (would be) super useful.
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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 23 2016 15:53 GMT
#123
On Mafiascum there is an iso button similar to our filter button, so you can do the same thing there.
But on this site, if you want to filter someone who hasn't posted on the page you are on, you either have to find a post they made or go to the op. Sometimes even the op doesn't have their filter (damdred..).

Here's something else super useful about multiple filters. Say you want to filter someone who has been replaced. You can filter the original player plus the replacement to get a full filter of the slot.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 23 2016 16:09 GMT
#124
When I want to filter someone I cannot see I click a random "filter" button and I replaced the name in the URL by the one I want
I messed up a lot before learning kush name correctly in noir
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2016 16:18 GMT
#125
I tend to keep an open tab on OP on my browser all the time.
Of course that doesn't work so well with phone but i don't wanna go arguing about that because playing by phone is such pain in the ass anyways.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 23 2016 16:36 GMT
#126
I just try not to read anything
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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
May 23 2016 16:39 GMT
#127
SC2Mafia has a very cool mechanic where the thread is automatically locked after a majority of votes. Pretty neat feature if you ask me.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 23 2016 16:46 GMT
#128
On May 24 2016 01:39 QuickTwist wrote:
SC2Mafia has a very cool mechanic where the thread is automatically locked after a majority of votes. Pretty neat feature if you ask me.

..There's another starcraft site that does mafia?? We should merge.
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
May 23 2016 16:56 GMT
#129
On May 24 2016 01:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 01:39 QuickTwist wrote:
SC2Mafia has a very cool mechanic where the thread is automatically locked after a majority of votes. Pretty neat feature if you ask me.

..There's another starcraft site that does mafia?? We should merge.


IIRC, there is actually a mafia gui that is text based that is based on SC2.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2016 17:00 GMT
#130
On May 24 2016 01:39 QuickTwist wrote:
SC2Mafia has a very cool mechanic where the thread is automatically locked after a majority of votes. Pretty neat feature if you ask me.

Yeah it is. We hardly ever have Instant majority lynch though, almost all the games are with a fixed deadline time and plurality (or deadline majority) lynch.
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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
May 23 2016 17:06 GMT
#131
On May 24 2016 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 01:39 QuickTwist wrote:
SC2Mafia has a very cool mechanic where the thread is automatically locked after a majority of votes. Pretty neat feature if you ask me.

Yeah it is. We hardly ever have Instant majority lynch though, almost all the games are with a fixed deadline time and plurality (or deadline majority) lynch.


I think plurality lynch works for some sites. I've played both. I prefer majority lynch, but its not like I'm not going to play a game because it has plurality lynch. Its actually the way I learned to play first.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2016 17:08 GMT
#132
Yeah there are arguments to made for all of those and it's again a preference thing. IML is probably the "worst" in a sense that people can make less arguments about the votes than in other methods.
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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
May 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#133
On May 24 2016 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah there are arguments to made for all of those and it's again a preference thing. IML is probably the "worst" in a sense that people can make less arguments about the votes than in other methods.


That's true, but you can also leverage bandwagons better with majority.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 24 2016 05:01 GMT
#134
On May 24 2016 01:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
I just try not to read anything


10/10
I'm adorable.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 24 2016 22:15 GMT
#135
Does it usually take this long to fill up or is it cuz there are other games going on?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
May 25 2016 12:26 GMT
#136
On May 25 2016 07:15 Skynx wrote:
Does it usually take this long to fill up or is it cuz there are other games going on?

Newbies usually take longer to fill up (on account of needing newbies), but we are at 4 (once I move sqrt) so it is not too bad. Another game is underway as well, so that might be impacting some vet spots being open.

Just depends tbh.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 25 2016 12:45 GMT
#137
On May 25 2016 21:26 Shapelog wrote:
Another game is underway as well, so that might be impacting some vet spots being open.

I am pretty sure this is mostly wishful thinking since this game has been open way longer than the ongoing game. If people in that game wanted to play this one they probably would have joined this one.
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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
May 25 2016 18:11 GMT
#138
On May 25 2016 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 21:26 Shapelog wrote:
Another game is underway as well, so that might be impacting some vet spots being open.

I am pretty sure this is mostly wishful thinking since this game has been open way longer than the ongoing game. If people in that game wanted to play this one they probably would have joined this one.

Actually tumble /out and the game did fill(vet) before HF filled. I was talking about the now empty slots for this game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 25 2016 18:59 GMT
#139
On May 24 2016 00:19 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2016 22:57 QuickTwist wrote:
On May 23 2016 22:35 Rels wrote:
On May 23 2016 21:55 QuickTwist wrote:
How do I multiquote on this site?

You can't!
I mean, you can open multiple tabs then copy the code into one single post, but there is no easy way to do it.


OK so that's two things so far that I can't say I like about this site :/

We do have "filter" button though under every post which allows you to view said player's posts in the game in a threaded mode. That's way superior to any ISO-system on any other site i have ever seen.

I think we don't have multiquotes since TL wasn't developed for playing mafia. I personally don't even like multiquotes since it makes posts harder to read and often people intentionally/unintentionally take the quotes out of context making them basically useless. Ofc that's just a preference thing in the end. I think another way is to copy the links for the posts and make a post where you give your analysis of said posts, then people can themselves follow the links and see if they agree with you or not. Imo it makes your post easier to read and follow and regardless if you have quoted the post you are referring to, people should anyways ALWAYS check the post in context. Everything can be scummy or not depending on the context.


MafiaScum has by far the best site for playing forum mafia on.. at least that I have seen. You can ISO up to 3 people at a time just like you can do for one person's posts here. They also have voter tags. They also have all your standard forums stuff. This forum is a bit odd, but workable I think. I think ISO is better on this site than a lot of sites, but there are some things this site lacks like something as basic as custom avatars. MafiaScum is the best site to play forum mafia on because that is its specific purpose.

I have to feel this site out a bit more before I decide how it compares to other sites with a fair outlook.

As an aside if I get to have a coach and I can pick who that is I would like to pick you as my coach.


FYI requests are cool and esp if you have a specific aim, but considering rayn is a listed town coach if you roll scum, you will get whoever the scum coach is. (That said, he is a good coach otherwise in spite of what he says about his English language ability xD.)

Filter debates aside I've debated trying out mafiascum because of my work schedule (48h cycles are not sustainable for me anymore, if a random business trip pops up, I'm canned) - are all games an entire week for a dayphase or can they vary between 4-7 days?

I know replacements are oftentimes because the game just goes quite long and if you have a 4-day game where town loses in m13 after 4 MLs, that equates to games taking a month long assuming 6-7 day long dayphases.

I'd say the key things here are the 48h dayphases (and 24h nights), plurality lynch (most people here hate majority, I can handle deadline majority, all it means is that towns need to work together better - but IML is a joke because of timezones most of the time), forum layout and to some extent the mechanics.

As for community, most people here are civil. Some aren't and thankfully they are dealt with accordingly/debated for punishment post-game. With respect to gameplay, I'd say MOST newbie games are slower paced, but non-newbies, depending on the signups can be spammy. Some players post way more than others and in certain threads, it has been mentioned that the 48h cycles have a lot to do with this attribute given the types of players this type of cycle would draw.

Also TL in general is first and foremost a gaming community, so many people here will also game with each other outside of forum mafia, including members "retired" from TL mafia. I play a lot of Dota 2 and a few things else with others, but others here play overwatch, sc2, league, hearthstone and a host of other games on the TL discord channel.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
May 25 2016 21:19 GMT
#140
On May 26 2016 03:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2016 00:19 QuickTwist wrote:
On May 24 2016 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2016 22:57 QuickTwist wrote:
On May 23 2016 22:35 Rels wrote:
On May 23 2016 21:55 QuickTwist wrote:
How do I multiquote on this site?

You can't!
I mean, you can open multiple tabs then copy the code into one single post, but there is no easy way to do it.


OK so that's two things so far that I can't say I like about this site :/

We do have "filter" button though under every post which allows you to view said player's posts in the game in a threaded mode. That's way superior to any ISO-system on any other site i have ever seen.

I think we don't have multiquotes since TL wasn't developed for playing mafia. I personally don't even like multiquotes since it makes posts harder to read and often people intentionally/unintentionally take the quotes out of context making them basically useless. Ofc that's just a preference thing in the end. I think another way is to copy the links for the posts and make a post where you give your analysis of said posts, then people can themselves follow the links and see if they agree with you or not. Imo it makes your post easier to read and follow and regardless if you have quoted the post you are referring to, people should anyways ALWAYS check the post in context. Everything can be scummy or not depending on the context.


MafiaScum has by far the best site for playing forum mafia on.. at least that I have seen. You can ISO up to 3 people at a time just like you can do for one person's posts here. They also have voter tags. They also have all your standard forums stuff. This forum is a bit odd, but workable I think. I think ISO is better on this site than a lot of sites, but there are some things this site lacks like something as basic as custom avatars. MafiaScum is the best site to play forum mafia on because that is its specific purpose.

I have to feel this site out a bit more before I decide how it compares to other sites with a fair outlook.

As an aside if I get to have a coach and I can pick who that is I would like to pick you as my coach.


FYI requests are cool and esp if you have a specific aim, but considering rayn is a listed town coach if you roll scum, you will get whoever the scum coach is. (That said, he is a good coach otherwise in spite of what he says about his English language ability xD.)

Filter debates aside I've debated trying out mafiascum because of my work schedule (48h cycles are not sustainable for me anymore, if a random business trip pops up, I'm canned) - are all games an entire week for a dayphase or can they vary between 4-7 days?

I know replacements are oftentimes because the game just goes quite long and if you have a 4-day game where town loses in m13 after 4 MLs, that equates to games taking a month long assuming 6-7 day long dayphases.

I'd say the key things here are the 48h dayphases (and 24h nights), plurality lynch (most people here hate majority, I can handle deadline majority, all it means is that towns need to work together better - but IML is a joke because of timezones most of the time), forum layout and to some extent the mechanics.

As for community, most people here are civil. Some aren't and thankfully they are dealt with accordingly/debated for punishment post-game. With respect to gameplay, I'd say MOST newbie games are slower paced, but non-newbies, depending on the signups can be spammy. Some players post way more than others and in certain threads, it has been mentioned that the 48h cycles have a lot to do with this attribute given the types of players this type of cycle would draw.

Also TL in general is first and foremost a gaming community, so many people here will also game with each other outside of forum mafia, including members "retired" from TL mafia. I play a lot of Dota 2 and a few things else with others, but others here play overwatch, sc2, league, hearthstone and a host of other games on the TL discord channel.


Yeah, wasn't really sure how the coaching works here.

I think it is somewhat up to the discretion of the game maker what length the games are technically, but I've never actually seen a game with less than a week long day.

I think I prefer a 4 day long day/night cycle with majority, but I've never actually played a game like that. 3 day long day phase seems the right amount to me. Enough can get talked about to make an informed decision and I like the way majority works with Bandwagons better than plurality where everyone is pretty much just doing their own thing (as Town).

There are always a few bad apples no matter where you go. Some sites however, are just plain toxic. Glad this isn't one of those I guess, but I suppose that kind of thing is relative.

Yeah, I know what TL is about since my brother was a huge BW player, but he now plays Dota 2. He did play SC2 a bit and did the whole manager thing, had a good team, but I forget why he stopped doing that. I don't really play blizzard/valve games too much because there is just something toxic about the player base that completely turns me off to it. I'm more of an RPG guy myself.
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