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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:07 GMT
#565
OK, i will ask you some questions Tictock.

If you could share your thought process for why you have 2 strong scum reads this early into day one, could you do that?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:18 GMT
#572
On June 04 2016 16:13 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 16:03 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 15:49 Tictock wrote:
On June 04 2016 15:32 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 15:30 Tictock wrote:
Pfft, I think I can stop reading @ pg 20 kus I already solved this.

Gunna go play a little more overwatch and see if anyone is around a bit later, but I prob picked a bad time to be active.

Not spoiling my reads till tomorrow.


You have no town cred. You should give reads.


So?


So why shouldn't we just lynch you for claiming you have already solved the game 1/3 of the way through day 1? It is IMO that Town have to pick who they would NOT lynch day 1 rather than just the scummiest players. I will not lynch a town read, but at the same time, I will settle on lynches that are not doing anything for town. You have not shown at all that you are town. you come in here and say "guys, I have the game solved, but I'm not going to tell until day 2" For what reason will you not share your reads until day 2? For funzies?


Well you should lynch me for that if you think that is the sort of thing that scum would do. Is that what you think?

I said tomorrow as in RL day, not a full phase from now.


Congrats! You've correctly identified why I think what you did was scummy

How are we suppose to know that you were talking about tomorrow as in not tomorrow game day? Did you give us any indication of that being a reality?

I still think you could be scum.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:18 GMT
#574
On June 04 2016 16:15 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 16:07 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, i will ask you some questions Tictock.

If you could share your thought process for why you have 2 strong scum reads this early into day one, could you do that?


Yes I could.

Though you were correct about an earlier assumption about my reads, so that will probably tarnish the answer you are hoping for here.


Why not?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:27 GMT
#579
On June 04 2016 16:18 Tumblewood wrote:
1) ok yeah as I see it one of QT and Jealous has to be scum. 2)they're both acting independently scummy (eager to read anything as scummy, tryhard tone, making mountains of molehills). 3) I don't believe that they could both be town, although if they were I will mock D1 relentlessly in postgame. 4) I also believe that they could not keep up this stupid bickering for so long as partners. 5) I'm leaning toward QT at this point for refuting everything Jealous says and then townreading him for it (pretty shallow townread IMO, there's more to the game than just how much you write that's semi-productive). 6) Jealous maybe, but I think my dislike of his tone biases my judgment. 7) 6/10 would lynch QT D1 and if he flips town lynch Jealous D2
or we could plynch sqrt and let their alignments become more apparent over time.


1) Why?

2) Examples?

3) And how are you coming to the conclusion that one of us has to be scum? What tells you that exactly?

4) We agree on that because I am Town.

5) False Dichotomy. Just because I disagree with his points doesn't mean I think his behavior is one alignment over the other. I also gave my reasons for Town reading him earlier itt. Look it up, then comment why these are bad reasons, don't just say I have bad reasons.

6) You are essentially agreeing with me on one reason why I have a town read on him, IE confirmation bias.

7) Congrats on making the worst statement in this entire game so far. Well done indeed.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:29 GMT
#581
On June 04 2016 16:27 Tictock wrote:
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On June 04 2016 08:53 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:52 Superbia wrote:
Quicky, do your townreads have any substance?


¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Lol. This response when you are currently pressuring me for reads ^.^


Keep reading the thread, there is some more logical discussion if you keep reading which might be more to your liking.

Also, I have how many posts in this thread compared to your how many? Not the same thing at all.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:30 GMT
#582
On June 04 2016 16:29 Tictock wrote:
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On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:49 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:46 Tumblewood wrote:
tryhard newbie + Show Spoiler [*cough cough*] +
jealous
= scum newbie most of the time

With no clues to work off of and only the content of a few early posters to analyze, I don't think my behavior is suspicious in the slightest and you're trying to cast shade on someone you may know is townie.

I played my last two TL Mafia games in 2008, in which I was townie and then mafia, in both of which I tried pretty hard by my reckoning. Here are the summaries for full disclosure since they were on a different account:

Townie: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg?user=fanatacist
Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/80975-tl-mafia-3-night-5?user=fanatacist


If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games.

I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads.

For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed?


Easiest read yet.


You're currently pretty null to me. Care to town it up a bit?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 04 2016 07:32 GMT
#583
OK, going to bed.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:03 GMT
#695
On June 04 2016 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 04 2016 09:49 QuickTwist wrote:
And I'll just say this right now. I am not a Vet.

I know because I'm the vet.


Fucnking beautiful.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:12 GMT
#696
On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says.
BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies.

yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me.


Show me proof of this. The real question here is how do you know?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:16 GMT
#697
On June 05 2016 03:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 01:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Upon further review, QT v. Jealous might be a town v. town argument, but I'm hesitant because it's not quite a shitfight-- QT is townreading jealous while bickering with him, although I do get the sense that jealous believes and cares about what he says.
BTW, those arguments on the basis of "tryhard" are because tryhard has an inherent component of insecurity, which is a big scumtell in newbies.

yes! the worst part of the argument for me is that QuickTwist is not upfront about his explanations. He answers questions in a roundabout manner and gets frustrated when people don't understand him halfway through it. I'm also fairly certain a couple of his explanations were lies such as the tests he seems to keep putting up for Jealous and Tumblewood in making sure they're "paying attention". It could be a sign of a townie very uncomfortable under pressure and lashing out about it, and I've certainly done it before but it's still very bothering for me.


you have to ask yourself if that is all I've done. Do you think I explained myself well enough with me debate with Jealous? Maybe I'm just not coming up with the way you would answer and that is scummy to you?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 01:21 GMT
#698
OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.

If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.

For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 03:28 GMT
#705
On June 05 2016 11:50 Tumblewood wrote:
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On June 05 2016 10:21 QuickTwist wrote:
OK, I feel like Jealous could be town or scum right now depending.

If he is being honest in saying I am detriment to Town then he is prolly town. If he is being dishonest, then he is just pushing an agenda.

For that reason we need to find out the way Jealous plays this game. IIRC no one has meta on him? This is a problem. So I suggest people try to catch him lying and see where that leads.

"if he's being honest he's town, if he's being dishonest he's scum"
no shit
what is your actual opinion on jealous


That is my actual opinion on Jealous.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 04:38 GMT
#713
On June 05 2016 13:33 NocturneMage wrote:
Vote Count: Day 1


QuickTwist (3): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock
scott31337 (3): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood
MoosyDoosy (2): Superbia, beentheredonethat
Superbia (0): QuickTwist

Not Voting (5): emperorchampion, scott31337, blkcoffee, MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast

Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.


Good, glad I got in early, this will give me Gosu Townie points when they flip mafia.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 05:12 GMT
#715
This thread is completely dead.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 06:00 GMT
#717
On June 05 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 14:12 QuickTwist wrote:
This thread is completely dead.

I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of.


Maybe maybe not, but that's no excuse not to post.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 06:52 GMT
#719
On June 05 2016 15:11 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 15:00 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 05 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:
On June 05 2016 14:12 QuickTwist wrote:
This thread is completely dead.

I'm curious about that too. I'd expect veteran players to be more active than this and applying at least a little pressure. However, I guess that without any flips or role results, there isn't much to work off of.


Maybe maybe not, but that's no excuse not to post.

Also, it's around midnight-2 am in America, which is where most of the posters on this forum are from I'm guessing.


There really hasn't been much since last I was on. I think I went to bed pretty late and didn't totally get up until 7 PM so there should really be a lot more to go through.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 07:32 GMT
#720
I'm going to reread. I have 3 games going and all of them are dead AF.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 07:50 GMT
#721
On June 04 2016 08:24 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:23 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:20 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:18 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:17 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:12 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:12 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:08 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:07 QuickTwist wrote:
I;m getting a town read on Sup... for really no reason.


Wow I'm already pocketed. Nice.

Good job calling me town. I like that. I may be inclined to call you town too at some later stage.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/collusion


What could it mean?

It could mean that your playful tete-a-tete in the early stages of Day 1 could be a means to generate posts, thus aiming to remove any suspicion placed upon you for inactivity when one clicks your posting summary, and could be a means to suggest that you are both green or blue. Both of these aims could signify the opposite.


So essentially.. nothing and everything? :D

Not at all. It is the most suspect thing I've seen in this thread so far.


Usually it's NAI (wow these pro acronyms, amirite). Depends on the person. I spam as either alignment.

That's a convenient strategy, but why would a newcomer to TL Mafia whom I imagine you have no prior experience with respond in the same manner besides collusion?


Try not to confirmation bias, please.


Just quoting this for shits a giggles.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 08:16 GMT
#723
On June 05 2016 16:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm honestly not going to have much time to play until later tomorrow so I'm parking my vote on my preliminary scumread.

I promise to go through the day in the night and maybe some d1 vca but i haven't been home in days. I will be tomorrow though


I'm sorry what? You have no vote yet. WTF, man?!?!
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 09:50 GMT
#726
On June 05 2016 17:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 17:16 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 05 2016 16:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm honestly not going to have much time to play until later tomorrow so I'm parking my vote on my preliminary scumread.

I promise to go through the day in the night and maybe some d1 vca but i haven't been home in days. I will be tomorrow though


I'm sorry what? You have no vote yet. WTF, man?!?!

Yeah I do


I see no vote in the vote thread by you. Mind explaining?
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