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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 19:52 GMT
#1373
On June 09 2016 04:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
So you want to kill someone with more thread presence rahter than someone who isn't contributing? That isn't a towny mindset imo.

Moose who do we kill, then?

My opinion is mafia would be happier if we mislynch a non-factor today. In the current state of the game everyone is calling shots on different targets,.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 19:54 GMT
#1374
To further elaborate, there is no way I'm wasting my vote on a coin-flip today.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 19:58 GMT
#1375
Many people are sr'ing kush who is on my list. Almost no one is talking about TT who's my other sr altho he made some sense lately.
So I'm suggesting people clarify their reads so we can pick a common target.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 20:03 GMT
#1381
On June 09 2016 05:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So Skynx, let me get this straight. You scum read kush?

Are you reading the thread at all? Check votes, check my reads, my filter is clear about what I think of people.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 20:04 GMT
#1382
On June 09 2016 05:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:
To further elaborate, there is no way I'm wasting my vote on a coin-flip today.


How do you rate from most coin-flippy to least coin-flippy??

Afk-ers are coin-flippy cuz we don't have information to analyse.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 20:07 GMT
#1383
This is getting nowhere. I gtg now, keeping my vote on kush.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 08 2016 20:13 GMT
#1387
On June 09 2016 05:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 05:03 Skynx wrote:
On June 09 2016 05:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So Skynx, let me get this straight. You scum read kush?

Are you reading the thread at all? Check votes, check my reads, my filter is clear about what I think of people.

I mean, that's the issue. These are the only mentions/kind of mentions of kush I can find in your filter.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 04:58 Skynx wrote:
Many people are sr'ing kush who is on my list. Almost no one is talking about TT who's my other sr altho he made some sense lately.
So I'm suggesting people clarify their reads so we can pick a common target.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 04:54 Skynx wrote:
To further elaborate, there is no way I'm wasting my vote on a coin-flip today.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 01:35 Skynx wrote:
Anyway kush please show some defence man i feel like no one is even trying this game...

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On June 07 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote:
My T>S meter

Most Town
emperor: reads on everything, has his own opinion, insightul for a non-vet, generally active
Jealous: Prolly most active, no way he's a good target after QT.

[orange]Midway[/orange[
Super: 9 pages filter wtf, mostly one liners, sr's me without basis, bandwagony.
Scott: There is the whole didn't get my role pm thing, inactive otherwise

Scummy
Ticktock: Pressures me D1, changes opinion just before lynch, useless arguing about shennanie which leads to nothing, very vague reads on last few posts. In the end, try-hard to not take any pressure on himself.
kush: Acts like this godly figure over the whole game but actual contributions are very small. Mostly arguing with everyone about how QT was bad lynch, teaching Jealous how to play mafia, tryin to find town leader. Gives no clear reads, mostly commenting on others reads. Again professional at acting natural and avoiding pressure.


Null:
Moosy is unreadable do to the nature of his posts
btdt with some good some bad posts but kinda inactive, I can't rly read him
blk is gone.

One list of reads that says kush is scum. Others are soft pushes. You say that others are scum reading kush like you so we should vote him and you say you don't want to waste your vote. The only other real mention of kush is asking him to defend. Overall it seems you're not confident in the kush push which is why I was asking if you thought kush was scum in order to make sure I got it right.

Fair, I was just getting frustrated.
The reason i wasn't confident on vote was cuz there was a lot of time til eod and i thought people would post more content. Today was totally useless and we got no distance covered so gotta keep my original thoughts. Kush is most scummy for his townlist and all that other jazz.

I rly gtg now, happy lynches ppl.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 11:02 GMT
#1507
Holy shit
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 19:06 GMT
#1521
Nice, people learning from Tumble not to post anything in night!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 19:16 GMT
#1524
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.

I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town?
Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol
Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 20:11 GMT
#1547
On June 10 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 04:16 Skynx wrote:
On June 10 2016 04:09 Jealous wrote:
On June 10 2016 03:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
If a blue claims and nobody counterclaims we can't know if it's a real claim until a second blue claims. If two blues claim and nobody counterclaims (either with a third blue role or the same as one of the claimers) we can assume that both blue roles are town eliminating two people from the lynch pool and effectively controlling the nightkills from mafia.

Claim wars is when mafia decides to risk counterclaiming with hopes of getting the blue role(s) lynched first. In the situation we are in it is fairly likely mafia will try to counter in this way as a failed counterclaim(mafia claimer is lynched) mafia still has two members.

That being said I think mafia has been sitting pretty all game and we need to start looking into people who seem towny.

Why would two people claiming be any less suspect than one person claiming? They could both be lying. Say PR1 claims, PR2 claims, but PR1 actually belongs to someone else. Then "claim wars" start where the actual PR1 claimed after the fake PR1 and how would we know the difference? There is no tangible way, as far as I see it. I almost want to say that it is a ploy by Superbia and EC to expose the influential PRs, because scum would be the only ones that know whether or not the person claiming is scum or not and thus would be much more valuable information to them than the town. However, I will wait to hear a more detailed explanation from Superbia and EC.

I agree with this, how is claiming blue beneficial to town?
Let's say actual cop claims and 1 scum claims cop as well now mafia has a nk target. If that person was lying then the actual cop now has to suspect of another person which is actually town lol
Also vet should never claim he doesn't get anything out of it other than having RB'd ez pz.


If 2 people claim cop you know for a fact that one of them is scum, and you can figure it out from there. Much better than what we currently have.

Then that cop is dead the other night.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 20:20 GMT
#1556
Well I get your point, but how to deal with counter claims then if we can't be allowed a mislynch?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 09 2016 20:23 GMT
#1561
Ahwell, nn then Super. Hope you won't die tonight.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 11:28 GMT
#1714
Goooodmorning Vietnam! lemme catchup
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 11:36 GMT
#1715
Well, I'm convinced by this and this that btdt is fakecalaiming out of pressure.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 13:45 GMT
#1743
If this is in fact ur 11th time in a row rolling mafia you're doing so good Super.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 14:19 GMT
#1747
I'm not trying to stir shit up or anything but
On June 09 2016 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hello guys. I am finally here, logged in on a friend's computer. I could not play thus far and have not caught up to the thread. Based on my reads from last day and having seen the kills, I strongly suggest to lynch into one of (oh, the irony) low volume player. The last 48 hours have produced very little discussion and I feel like lynching afk people is a good thing.

I will place my vote on thekushmountains for that purpose. Please note that my real life issues will probably continue for the next 24 hours, so do not expect great activity from my side. Sorry, again. Good night everyone.

##vote nnn_thekushmountians

This guy is town too no matter what.


His check on btdt is kinda out of nowhere imo cuz he spent entire d2 pressuring me and emp.
If this is a situation where Moosy just fires shots on town btdt, he panics and screws up cc and Moosy defends his claim by just bringing up his Jealous tr on d2 we are so so fucked

On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.

beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.

##Vote: beentheredonethat


What were your other checks?

And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx?


On June 10 2016 08:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
#moneychecks

#2pro

#bestblueever

#hashtag

:3


I mean only reason Moosy is not drawing suspicion is because btdt screwed up.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 14:19 GMT
#1748
Please please someone claim cop...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 14:43 GMT
#1750
Yeah I sort of see that, your D1 playstyle kicks in every now and then and I stop scrolling down on your filter.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 10 2016 14:47 GMT
#1751
Anyway, lets say we lynch btdt today, Jealous and Super I'm never lynching D4. Moosy's alignment will be revealed after today aswell so thats 3 out of the way.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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