EPTfrom the OP -
There are two blues and says ONLY two blues, so that would assume there are two blues ONLY - not one or zero.
only one can be cop or vig
only one can be doc or vet
Am I correct?
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from the OP - There are two blues and says ONLY two blues, so that would assume there are two blues ONLY - not one or zero. only one can be cop or vig only one can be doc or vet Am I correct? | ||
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Yes, that makes 100% sense now and I agree after doing the math myself. | ||
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On June 10 2016 18:03 beentheredonethat wrote: Three possible scenarios. a) Moosy is cop, I am doc. b) Moosy is scum fakeclaiming, I am doc c) Moosy is cop, I am scum. Superbia says that a) is not possible, so it's b) or c). Since I know that I am the doctor, I say it's b) and we should lynch Moosydoosy. He will of course say the opposite. If Superbia is correct in his die simulation, we have scenario B. This means that both Moosy and me are dead, only the order is relevant. If I get lynched as Doc, Moosy will be lynched next day or shot by the potential vig next night. If Moosy gets lynched as scum, I will be shot at night by scum since I am the doc. Worst situation though is if Superbia is wrong, situtation a is possible, and situation a is given. Then it's a lose-lose-situation: it's town-doc vs. town-cop. If Moosy gets lynched as cop, I will be lynched as doc. If I get lynched as doc, Moosy will be killed as cop. Either way, situation a) would suck so I absolutely hope Superbia is right. Because if Superbia is right, then Moosy has just outed himself as scum and we lose Doctor at night vs. the first scummer. If you get lynched as doc, the game is over unless the vig does not get RB'd and makes a successful shot. You don't even know it's MYLO, right? From Superbia's analysis - if he's fakeclaiming, there's a real cop or a unclaimed vig (which hasn't shot? doubtful) "Moosy will be lynched next day or shot by the potential vig next night." " If Moosy gets lynched as cop, I will be lynched as doc. If I get lynched as doc, Moosy will be killed as cop." Your not thinking like a townie or a doc. Here's your shovel. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gU12bso.png) Six numbers are rolled - we'll name some combos, 2, 3,1 like above=6 If you roll 4 for a specific number, it equals 0, follow me? so you can have 0,1,1=6 (since 4=0) follow me? In your scenario with framer/cop/doc, it would have to be 3+1+1=5 (not 6) 1+1+1+? (not 6) they call come out odd (or, to make it easier, not 6) to be Framer/Cop/Doc So Framer/Doc/Cop according to the OP, cannot exist. Does that make sense? | ||
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On June 10 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote: Ok I said I was gunna hold off, but mulling things over I think I feel pretty good about Moosy's claim. As such I propose we have a very solid town circle of Moosy, Jealous, and myself (I think I can backup why I am town if I need to). I also feel pretty good about Emp being town still. So question to Moosy and Jealous. What do you guys think about Emp? Assuming for a moment that he is town, who do you think the last townie is? (between Skynx, Scott and Super) + Show Spoiler [Irony] + This reminded me... On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote: scumlist v2.0 everyone whose name starts with s Personally I could actually see a team of BtDt, Skynx and Super/Scott. So uhhhmmm,yeah - | ||
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I am not the vigi. Therefore I believe moosy is the real town cop. | ||
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On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote: Please please someone claim cop... Yeah I think we lynch you tomorrow. | ||
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On June 11 2016 06:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: you have to be happy or your scum lol. Who do you think are the remaining scum members? Skynx would be at the top of my list. The third one I'm quite unsure of though - I'd have to re-read filters and VCA. | ||
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I'm back in town, let me relax a bit and I'll start getting down to business. | ||
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Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): Now if I do 99-100% (Superbia only 99% for me, Jealous is 100%) + Show Spoiler [99%s] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): Scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): And I do Skynx mafia and me town + Show Spoiler [Skynx mafia me town] + Final Vote Count: Day 1 QuickTwist (5): scott31337 (2): nnn_thekushmountains, beentheredonethat (2): Tictock, Fecalfeast nnn_thekushmountains (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): Jealous (1): QuickTwist Skynx (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (1): blkcoffee Final Vote Count Day 2 nnn_thekushmountains (6): Superbia, Skynx, Tictock, beentheredonethat, emperorchampion, Jealous emporerchampion (3): MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, Skynx (1): nnn_thekushmountains beentheredonethat (0): scott31337 (0): Not-voting blkcoffee Day 3 vote count beentheredonethat (7): MoosyDoosy, Superbia, scott31337. Jealous, Tictock, Skynx, emperorchampion Superbia(0): MoosyDoosy(1): beentheredonethat Not voting (0): I need to re-read Tictock's d1 and if he voted on btdt legitimately or was a throw-away vote (that the lynch was already secured) | ||
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On June 06 2016 07:54 Tictock wrote: So we swapping to BtDt or Skynx then? I'm ready. | ||
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On June 06 2016 07:56 Tictock wrote: Lets do it. ##Vote: beentheredonethat | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:01 emperorchampion wrote: Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers hmm | ||
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On June 13 2016 12:46 Jealous wrote: Skynx/EC/Tictock all voted for the same person each day, except when TT did shennanies onto BTDT. Skynx always votes before EC. EC waited for another person to vote in between them in 2/3 days, except when he was last vote. Ticktock voted between the two of them on both of those instances, and shennanied later. They never voted first for the person who ended up lynched. The only person to note vote for the same person on those days is BTDT. So, unless scott is scum, then two of Skynx/EC/Tictock were working as a 2 man voting/bandwagoning cell. It's worth it to examine their interactions with each other. Looking back at Day 1 data, we have: + Show Spoiler [beentheredonethat] + BTDT reads Superbia, QuickTwist, Tumblewood town BTDT reads MoosyDoosy scum BTDT votes MoosyDoosy BTDT reads Jealous scum based off Tumblewood + Show Spoiler [emperorchampion] + Emperorchampion reads QuickTwist town Emperorchampion defends QT, points at Moosy EC softreads Tumble, QT scum EC reads Skynx, Tumble, QT, Jealous as scum EC reads Superbia, TT town EC votes QT EC says if QT town, Tumble town, Jealous scum + Show Spoiler [Skynx] + Skynx reads Jealous town, Superbia scum Skynx votes QuickTwist Skynx defends sqrtneg1, points at FecalFeast Skynx reads Tumble, EC town Skynx reads QT, Superbia scum Skynx defends Jealous @QT Skynx points BC + Show Spoiler [Tictock] + Tictock casts a fake vote for kushmountain Tictock reads Moosy scum Tictock reads Tumblewood town Tictock says to ignore his previous scum reads lol Tictock reads Jealous town Tictock reads Superbia, Tumblewood, Moosy, blkcoffee town Tictock reads QuickTwist, emperorchampion scum Tictock votes QuickTwist Tictock reads Jealous scum TT points at FF for plynch TT reads QT, Skynx scum TT wants to lynch Skynx TT reads QT scum TT reads QT scum TT reads QT, kush, Skynx, EC scum TT corrects EC for BTDT TT votes BTDT TT defends BC ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cBR85ud.png) That's better analysis than I did - I have been fooled by Tictock before to an extent - this was the game I played with him, he was mafia, I was town - we went to LYLO. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486008-holy-guardians-chapter-1 I do not know how much time you have, but I wanted to point out this game we played together. | ||
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On June 13 2016 16:00 Jealous wrote: I actually wrote all of that based on your data, not mine haha. Thanks for the color coding. Do you think TT's the other mafia and not EC? | ||
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