Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
On May 08 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Final Day 2 Votecount
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
I am just making the assumption because of how Palmar tried to paint Sand. with his dying words. And there are people who actually fit into those Cat, most notably Killing/Extell. At least those come to my head.
You might be right tho about the bussing. I forgot that by the time Sand. voted, the vote count only had 1 on Etellex, meaning that it would be hard to start a wagon (Faceplam). the only person out of the first 5 I could see being scum is kush, but I am kinda working my way out of that situation. Still hate that plan of his, but evidence points to him being town so blah.
Palmars first and only read for awhile was that etellex seemed kind of new townie. Would he really implicate his teammate like that when he knows he is going to be under pressure? If so should probably win an award for worst mafia game ever since he for sure implicated sandroba with his talk about how sandroba was the correct lynch then not voting for him.
On May 11 2016 06:31 Mig wrote: Lets kill slam/fazers
Let's kill any of the people who decided to just post one thing about voting, and than bugger off for the rest of the cycle.
Pretty sure that is about 3-4 people.
Nah, honestly, For me it is Etellex/Slam/Fazer(maybe, his vote and having not generally post much since day 1 kinda is sus.) with some people entering maybe.
On May 11 2016 06:42 Mig wrote: Palmars first and only read for awhile was that etellex seemed kind of new townie. Would he really implicate his teammate like that when he knows he is going to be under pressure? If so should probably win an award for worst mafia game ever since he for sure implicated sandroba with his talk about how sandroba was the correct lynch then not voting for him.
lol Yeah, I guess we should expect him to at least not leave obvious connections like that. But on the other hand it might just be WIFOM since if Palmar knows he is going to be under pressure he can foresee people making your argument.
On May 11 2016 06:42 Mig wrote: Palmars first and only read for awhile was that etellex seemed kind of new townie. Would he really implicate his teammate like that when he knows he is going to be under pressure? If so should probably win an award for worst mafia game ever since he for sure implicated sandroba with his talk about how sandroba was the correct lynch then not voting for him.
Please, Sand's vote was sus, on itself, for reasons I pointed out back then. Palmar was just iceing.
Day 2 he resorted that Him and Fazer didn't sound mafia, and made him his town buddy again.
The weirdest thing I have bewteen the town (Palmar and Etellex) is this:
On May 07 2016 20:51 RiceyKins wrote: ##Vote: Etellex
you seem to have a good read on Palmar marv and I'm on board with his lynch based on your read but I still would be fine with lynching Etellex today as well. His recent posts have made sense to me though as in I understand where he's coming from in terms of trouble posting and style differences from Town of Salem to this... however I don't see that as alignment indicative but his actions are still really leading me to think he's mafia.
Honestly right now it's because he said Killing attacked me for no logical reason when even I admitted earlier in this game
On May 04 2016 10:58 RiceyKins wrote: I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange.
So I can understand somebody coming after me quite well.
Most of my hesitation on Etellex d1 was because we weren't able to see his thought process and how he came to his conclusions but now that we have I'm still not convinced that he's looking for mafia, it seems like he's actively just trying to survive instead of helping town.
Do you still read Kush as scum Etellex? Who else other than Killing stands out to you?
Right now nothing I say holds water because of all the suspicion on me, so first I want to establish that I am in fact not scum before doing anything crazy. As for Kush, I do now think he's town.
What is an interesting possibility is that Palmer actually is scum and when he is revealed it will appear obvious that I am, despite being town. I don't know why someone would go through all that trouble to kill someone who's going to get lynched anyways so I don't think this is 100% the case but in case he does turn out to be mafia I want to have this on record.
On May 08 2016 09:03 Etellex wrote: My hunch was right, Palmer was trying to drag me down with him by making us look like scumteam. I suppose the counter to that argument would be that both we starting talking later in the game and he initiated the talking. Anyways, I understand that Marv is now town. Praise be to lord Marv.
I just don't understand why he was so worried about how he looked after the lynch. I mean you caught scum, take it easy. And if you look back in his earlier posts, he is very mentioning about his charter as well.
Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
On May 08 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Final Day 2 Votecount
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
I am just making the assumption because of how Palmar tried to paint Sand. with his dying words. And there are people who actually fit into those Cat, most notably Killing/Extell. At least those come to my head.
You might be right tho about the bussing. I forgot that by the time Sand. voted, the vote count only had 1 on Etellex, meaning that it would be hard to start a wagon (Faceplam). the only person out of the first 5 I could see being scum is kush, but I am kinda working my way out of that situation. Still hate that plan of his, but evidence points to him being town so blah.
Kush could be mafia. At some point he was known for showing tmi and bussing as scum which would obviously fit really well this game. But I seriously doubt he would still play like that. He has been outspoken and invested for the most part and in my experience mafia kush is generally worse than that. I don't really see the point in kush bussing both of his teammates this hard all game.
Gotta be less likely that killing is mafia also I imagine. If palmar wanted to bus a teammate he could have just voted for sandroba (the more realistic lynch) right from the start instead of voting for killing first. Especially since it ended up making him and sandroba look more like mafia. It could all be some deep palmar mindfuck but seems unlikely and got 2/3rds of the team killed for it.
Yea. I have reread etellex's palmar posts a bunch of times. I will definitely concede it is weird he was so concerned with the idea that palmar could flip scum and implicate him.
Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
On May 08 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Final Day 2 Votecount
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
I am just making the assumption because of how Palmar tried to paint Sand. with his dying words. And there are people who actually fit into those Cat, most notably Killing/Extell. At least those come to my head.
You might be right tho about the bussing. I forgot that by the time Sand. voted, the vote count only had 1 on Etellex, meaning that it would be hard to start a wagon (Faceplam). the only person out of the first 5 I could see being scum is kush, but I am kinda working my way out of that situation. Still hate that plan of his, but evidence points to him being town so blah.
Kush could be mafia. At some point he was known for showing tmi and bussing as scum which would obviously fit really well this game. But I seriously doubt he would still play like that. He has been outspoken and invested for the most part and in my experience mafia kush is generally worse than that. I don't really see the point in kush bussing both of his teammates this hard all game.
Be careful, He might be pulling what I did in XIX. Would have the same role as well, and almost the same bussing position on Rb + the all time aggression on teammates.
eh, idk, Kush did seem to play careful in Noir, but Noir was 9 and pretty random in terms of role set ups.
On May 11 2016 06:54 Mig wrote: Gotta be less likely that killing is mafia also I imagine. If palmar wanted to bus a teammate he could have just voted for sandroba (the more realistic lynch) right from the start instead of voting for killing first. Especially since it ended up making him and sandroba look more like mafia. It could all be some deep palmar mindfuck but seems unlikely and got 2/3rds of the team killed for it.
Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
On May 08 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Final Day 2 Votecount
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
I am just making the assumption because of how Palmar tried to paint Sand. with his dying words. And there are people who actually fit into those Cat, most notably Killing/Extell. At least those come to my head.
You might be right tho about the bussing. I forgot that by the time Sand. voted, the vote count only had 1 on Etellex, meaning that it would be hard to start a wagon (Faceplam). the only person out of the first 5 I could see being scum is kush, but I am kinda working my way out of that situation. Still hate that plan of his, but evidence points to him being town so blah.
Kush could be mafia. At some point he was known for showing tmi and bussing as scum which would obviously fit really well this game. But I seriously doubt he would still play like that. He has been outspoken and invested for the most part and in my experience mafia kush is generally worse than that. I don't really see the point in kush bussing both of his teammates this hard all game.
Be careful, He might be pulling what I did in XIX. Would have the same role as well, and almost the same bussing position on Rb + the all time aggression on teammates.
eh, idk, Kush did seem to play careful in Noir, but Noir was 9 and pretty random in terms of role set ups.
Yes, but Kushs ability to carry is not comparable to yours.
On May 11 2016 06:54 Mig wrote: Gotta be less likely that killing is mafia also I imagine. If palmar wanted to bus a teammate he could have just voted for sandroba (the more realistic lynch) right from the start instead of voting for killing first. Especially since it ended up making him and sandroba look more like mafia. It could all be some deep palmar mindfuck but seems unlikely and got 2/3rds of the team killed for it.
Pfff, Collateral damage.
Yea let me rephrase that, not the main reason they died but he made himself and sandroba look worse for nothing if killing is also mafia.
On May 11 2016 06:54 Mig wrote: Gotta be less likely that killing is mafia also I imagine. If palmar wanted to bus a teammate he could have just voted for sandroba (the more realistic lynch) right from the start instead of voting for killing first. Especially since it ended up making him and sandroba look more like mafia. It could all be some deep palmar mindfuck but seems unlikely and got 2/3rds of the team killed for it.
Pfff, Collateral damage.
Yea let me rephrase that, not the main reason they died but he made himself and sandroba look worse for nothing if killing is also mafia.
I don't think I agree with this conclusion.
Yes, you are right - he gains very little by doing that. But what does Killings alignment have to do with it? There was never a real chance of Killing getting lynched so I don't think he gained anything if Killing is town either.
Mafia didn't vote. 3rd mafia was soloing, so maybe they were thinking about the long game? Dr.Pepper wouldn't have had check in for a while, and Palmar would be afkish, so maybe we are actually looking for that carrier.
I kinda really pissed, because I look at D1, to see if mafia voted for or against Etellex, due to the wagons being close. But fuck, they didn't even vote.
On May 08 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Final Day 2 Votecount
The thing I do not understand here, is that Palmar felt the need to really boaster Sand's position over the other team mate. This could suggest that maybe there acutally is another strong player left.
Or maybe I am just overcompensating about it. Eh.
I mean we know that scum had intents to make the Palmar bus very credible (or at least tried to) to the other team mates. Etellex is mentioned, but not pushed so much.
Do we? I don't know that. I am reasonably sure that no mafia was on Palmars wagon before sandro joined which was really really late in the day already when it was inevitable. What makes you think it is a bus when from your perspective almost all of the suspects should be on the other wagons?
And yes, 2/3 mafia not voting day1 is pretty disgusting.
I am just making the assumption because of how Palmar tried to paint Sand. with his dying words. And there are people who actually fit into those Cat, most notably Killing/Extell. At least those come to my head.
You might be right tho about the bussing. I forgot that by the time Sand. voted, the vote count only had 1 on Etellex, meaning that it would be hard to start a wagon (Faceplam). the only person out of the first 5 I could see being scum is kush, but I am kinda working my way out of that situation. Still hate that plan of his, but evidence points to him being town so blah.
Kush could be mafia. At some point he was known for showing tmi and bussing as scum which would obviously fit really well this game. But I seriously doubt he would still play like that. He has been outspoken and invested for the most part and in my experience mafia kush is generally worse than that. I don't really see the point in kush bussing both of his teammates this hard all game.
Be careful, He might be pulling what I did in XIX. Would have the same role as well, and almost the same bussing position on Rb + the all time aggression on teammates.
eh, idk, Kush did seem to play careful in Noir, but Noir was 9 and pretty random in terms of role set ups.
Yes, but Kushs ability to carry is not comparable to yours.
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