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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:16 GMT
#207
On April 15 2016 23:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:06 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.

Except I'm not questionning it on the fact that he writes big posts, I want to know why did he find GB's posts townie.

You are questioning him on the basis that he makes ridiculous assumptions based on very little. Which is exactly what he did as town in a game we can't really talk about.

Why does gumshoe currently townread GB ?

I don't care. I don't think you can townread GB yet. But I think it is entirely possible that gumshoe believes he can.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:17 GMT
#209
And "tentatively green" isn't a very strong read anyways.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:18 GMT
#210
On April 15 2016 23:14 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
No puedo decidir si me gusta matar SL o no...ayúdame ;o; El espacio entre su primera entrada y las otras era tan larga pero no sé como interpretar su lista de deseos sobre los jugadores :/


I can't decide whether or not I want to lynch SL...help me ;o; The time between his first post and the rest was pretty long but I don't know how to interpret that list of who he does and doesn't want to play with :/

Based on what he did so far I have no idea why you would want to lynch him. If you don't know how to interpret the post then why would you lynch him for it?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:22 GMT
#213
On April 15 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:12 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:06 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

[quote] sad/elaborate.

[quote] neutral/coy

[quote] a bit morose.

[quote] plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
[quote]

[quote]

show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.

Except I'm not questionning it on the fact that he writes big posts, I want to know why did he find GB's posts townie.

You are questioning him on the basis that he makes ridiculous assumptions based on very little. Which is exactly what he did as town in a game we can't really talk about.

Why does gumshoe currently townread GB ?

I don't care. I don't think you can townread GB yet. But I think it is entirely possible that gumshoe believes he can.

So why is it suspicious for someone to dig into the townread and see if it's logical or not ?
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:14 rsoultin wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:13 Rels wrote:
gumshoe you shut the fuck up plz


???

Dont want gumshoe to expand on GB while I'm questionning JAT.

You can question him all day for all I care. But you worded it like you thought this makes gumshoe mafia. And that is my point here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:35 GMT
#218
On April 15 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:
Something like that.
Alright gumshoe can you expand on your GB's townread ? I think your "1 of the 4 people caring about the game" thing is bullshit because:
- it was so close to the start of the game, so if he's posting ofc he's going to be one of the only posters, regardless of his alignment
- he made only 1 serious post at that point, asking about your thoughts on him

Whatever. I should really check if you are telling the truth about missing gumshoes play the other time but why would you lie about that.
Carry on.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:44 GMT
#221
Rels didn't lie. How boring.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:47 GMT
#223
On April 15 2016 23:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Rels didn't lie. How boring.

What a revelation ^^

Ikr
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:55 GMT
#228
On April 15 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:
I fucking hope JAS smurffails posting a super eloquent post and it's revealed to be like VA

lol, no way
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:57 GMT
#229
On April 15 2016 23:55 Rels wrote:
He might be town. He had this idea of Palmar being suspicious for X, I & others tell him X is NAI, he is like "OK" but still wants to defend his idea:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:51 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:39 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you slam?

Sadly no, however, perhaps we share a secret bondage of blood and DNA.
Hmmm, Do i smell with nose?
On April 15 2016 22:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:28 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Also, pulling shit out of his ass with the random percent.

Since when have the most splendid of players decided to just randomly do that? Perhaps I have missed a cultural change on Teamlqiuid, since I last played.

So when DID you last play? Because I have been playing for a few years now and this is typical Palmar.
Can you explain why you think doing that is scunmy in general?


I think it was a year ago or so. I forget which game in particular (Or i might just be saying that, to avoid giving my identity out, wittiness protection program and all that), but he was active and trying to find things out. And then as scum he was lazying his way though the game.

As for why I think that is scummy, it mostly has to do with the time stamps (almost 7 hours). I feel like he could of already have a comment on something, yet he does not. It appears almost that he is masking his existence by those posts, Much as I am masking my identity behind this smurf.

Don't you think what he did was kinda blatant? So if he is trying to mask anything he is doing a pretty poor job at it.

Minus being noticed by the other chaps before I commented on it. Sometimes, the most obvious of masks, are simply a common idea, of a which the person wearing the mask thinks of. But I am slowly turning into my cousin V, so i digress from the mask talk.

It's a townie process. He could be a strong scum and fake it but it's town indicative.

No, it is really not.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 14:59 GMT
#230
Mafia instinctively defend their points to not look like they are making up bullshit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 15:23 GMT
#240
Not even terribly opposed to that tbh.

Would even policy lynch her for the continued spanish thing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 15:29 GMT
#246
On April 16 2016 00:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 00:24 Palmar wrote:
clearly is not*

Also jat's point about how weird he is about his relationship to me is valid.

Without knowing his identity we can't make assumption about him knowing you can AFK D1 as town.

Why are you constantly defending that guy? It is really unwarranted. And your point is wrong too. He called Palmar "one of the most splendid players" or some shit. He knows him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 15 2016 15:35 GMT
#254
On April 16 2016 00:34 Rels wrote:
K. Leaving work and not posting before tomorrow.

Same. Drinking time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 16:49 GMT
#406
On April 17 2016 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 00:24 gumshoe wrote:
Palmar, I'd like some deeper reads on these players

obiwan
Jas
Tumbleweed

They hold varying opinions on Rsoultin and I want to know what you think of their current approaches and of course their alignment in general.

I have no opinion on any of them.

How come? You said you agreed with my point on jas earlier.

I didn't have such a bad hangover in a long time - still not feeling too well. Will try to catch up now.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:10 GMT
#412
On April 16 2016 08:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 08:29 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

GB: Depende, ¿te gusta la rica oscuridad de chocolate? ¿Y dónde está el portugués?
Oneg: siempre me odias ;o;
Gum: o.0 hay mucha de tantas pocas palabras alla lol


GB: Depends, do you like the delicious darkness of chocolate? And where's the Portuguese?
Oneg: You always hate me ;o;
Gum: o.0 So much from so few words lol


this was the one post made before calling rstoulin mafia. Other people "joke" voted rstoulin so I took it as a joke vote at the time.

But hes still going with it? Your gonna have to explain this one palmar .right now I have you as mafia or a town randomly voting for presure.

Theres nothing in that one rstoulin post to think shes mafia this strongly and it all seems to convenient.

On April 16 2016 08:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 17:42 Palmar wrote:
I am happy with my vote. Rsoultin has 81% chance of flipping mafia here.


like wut this is after 3 posts. Maybe palmar just saw 3 town votes and decided to make up reasons to scum read her later lol

SL may be mafia for thinking this. This is utter nonsense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#413
On April 16 2016 15:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
I read gaiden, that's only like six months ago
Perhaps what I'm saying is that I expect rsoul to be more... disagreeable? That's the distinguishing factor I see between her town and scum games.
Going to sleep soon so if you have any questions ask now.


-squints at- dude i'm just not scum, and i don't have cookie cutter games. i can be abrasive as scum very easily, and agreeable or lost as town just as easily. but regardless, there are two very good reasons you shouldn't be sitting there applying meta reads to me

1. you haven't played in the games you're citing and therefore have no clue about context (plus let's just be honest probably went in there with a pre-conceived bias since you already think i'm scum based on never having played with me as town)

and

2. you're wrong and annoying me and should stop cause this is wasting time when i'm literally one of the only people in the thread who even seems interested in trying to get town organized enough to have a shot in hell at actually lynching scum this phase

blah -_- it would be super nice if only scum would scumread me lol ><

Tumble makes a decent point about rsoul somewhat lacking emotion just before and the result is this unwarranted attack.Not the biggest fan.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:25 GMT
#414
I could also easily lynch JAS, SL and GB. Too many scummy people.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:26 GMT
#415
SL* was supposed to be Superbia in that post
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:29 GMT
#416
I hope whoever our vig is targets people like Onegu and Fazers.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
April 16 2016 17:40 GMT
#419
On April 17 2016 02:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 16 2016 15:11 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2016 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
I read gaiden, that's only like six months ago
Perhaps what I'm saying is that I expect rsoul to be more... disagreeable? That's the distinguishing factor I see between her town and scum games.
Going to sleep soon so if you have any questions ask now.


-squints at- dude i'm just not scum, and i don't have cookie cutter games. i can be abrasive as scum very easily, and agreeable or lost as town just as easily. but regardless, there are two very good reasons you shouldn't be sitting there applying meta reads to me

1. you haven't played in the games you're citing and therefore have no clue about context (plus let's just be honest probably went in there with a pre-conceived bias since you already think i'm scum based on never having played with me as town)

and

2. you're wrong and annoying me and should stop cause this is wasting time when i'm literally one of the only people in the thread who even seems interested in trying to get town organized enough to have a shot in hell at actually lynching scum this phase

blah -_- it would be super nice if only scum would scumread me lol ><

Tumble makes a decent point about rsoul somewhat lacking emotion just before and the result is this unwarranted attack.Not the biggest fan.


it's kinda amazing how long some of you have played with me and yet you still can't figure out really simple things. i don't treat scumreads and townreads the same, but some newbie even with good intentions sitting there trying to build a meta-read off 6-month old towngames is ridiculous

i doubt you'd appreciate it either

I have no idea what you think is ridiculous about it. He is doing work and if you want to do it right you need to look at older games. Especially if you don't have your own experience with the other player.
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