Newbie Student Mafia XX - Page 4

On April 10 2016 07:43 Gossemerr wrote:


Why would Art push you so hard if you are town and he is mafia? You flip town basically makes Art look super scum and leads to next day lynch on himself. 1 town for 1 mafia is not a trade the scum team would be willing to take.

On April 10 2016 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

This suggests I was certain on you being scum. I wasn't. I'm still not certain, as you would probably know if you read my case just now. I was less certain back then, and Fidei did something I thought was very scum indicative, especially since he rolled scum the game before.

"Everyone knows playing DotA 2 hours before deadline after hearing you just ended up playing a game game when you rolled scum the game before isn't alignment indicative, especially knowing Fidei hates playing scum!"
Yeah that makes sense.

On April 10 2016 07:46 Fidei86 wrote:
I want to say that I think in a perfect world we would lynch one of the many lurkers or LS (because LS is a coin-flip and I hate coin-flips late in game). But I can see the sense in choosing between GB and Artanis, not least because LS pushing Racer has me all sorts of concerned. So, yeah. Sorry GB.

##Vote: GlowingBear

On April 10 2016 07:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

So because I didn't have a straight-up reason to read you as town I should've lynched you? I can't lynch half the town at once honeybunny.

On April 10 2016 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Why is RB town?

On April 10 2016 07:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Bleh the only thing I didn't like about TW was the setting up of it always being TvS. If we're both town and he's scum that is an easy thing to push. Just dunno if scum would be so open about it if it was their plan to begin with.

Hasn't TW been mislynched a bunch already?

On April 10 2016 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Cared enough even though he a being lynched to give a shitty last will.

Tone wise even if his push kinda sucks it does show some thought. Is all over the thread in some regards hands in everything etc. From my skin at least

On April 10 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I think I'm better at reading you than at TW though. I kinda caught you in the last scumgame we played but then let go of it :/

On April 13 2016 08:09 Shapelog wrote:

Night 3

---

A shadowy man came from a closet, he had a shot gun in his hands. He pointed it to Art.

"Take this you motherfucking, lieing piece of knob"

---

The body of Art. laid on the ground, blood pouring from the wounded chest. The stranger eyed everyone else, and slowly walked back towards the closet. His foot reached the door, as he turned around, with a piece of people in his hand. For the first time, the group got a good look at his face. The man was young, maybe mid twenties, and had a scar running from his cheek from the left side to his mouth.

"Fix the past, Raze the Curse." He said, dropping the piece of paper. As he step into the closet and shut it behind him. When the group went to open the closet, the man was gone.

The read the paper out loud:

"Good, One Traitor down, and a step into the Right Direction! HAHA!

but your road is still long, all 3 must die before i reveal my secret. Yet....I am a nice person, in a twisted manner. therefore i will give you a present. Information.

The man that just enter the room was me. Who is me you ask? You will never know, or if you do, then congratulations. Time is hard to keep up with, so I can not predict if we will ever meet formally. I hold the secert to this house, or at least i should. So the deal is,

you help me, and I help you live. Fail, and we all die except them. Succeed, and I make it worth more than what he is giving.

Signed -XHIOHS
"

Artains[Xp], Dung Glatt, the mafia goon, Has been lynched!

Also a warning to Race Bannon has been issued due to failing to vote.

Morning is in

On April 16 2016 11:23 CHodge wrote:
I actually feel pretty good about my play considering my work schedule. A few things to note about this game:

Town:
1. You need to be active and productive. Most of D1 for over half the townies was literally the most unproductive shit ever. No player ever should be able to do very basic analysis and be instantly town read for it; especially when said analysis comes late in the day.
2. Posting/High Post Count =/= being active. The goal for town is to not give Scum room to hide. Artanis got to hide because he was doing very minimal things. Race was just posting random shit and no one was bothering to check him. DYH was just high activity.
3. Openings are important. In my experience, ~75% of scum are "caught" in the first 10 posts. Race and Artanis could easily have been lynched for their openings (for very different reasons); Race's townreads were really, really bad. Artanis was posting but basically worthless; he should've been the D2 lynch. A player who is as skilled as he is who isn't really trying to work with anyone else to get productive posts/lynches is scum.
4. Finding town is just (if not more) important than finding scum. Everyone had me as town on D1. The D1 lynch was culminating in a fuckfest of votes on random players. If you can't find a "good lynch" or a high scum flip, just vote with the player who's you're strongest townread. It's far more likely that whoever that person wants to lynch is scum than a random decision.
5. Town leaders who aren't leading and providing direction should be lynched. From what I saw, all the discussion basically focused around Artanis; by this I mean who he talked about, focused on, etc. But he literally spent zero time actively trying to push an effective agenda.
6. In a 3v2 LYLO when votes are 4:1 especially early on and everybody is staying on, you're lynching town. The last lynch was really bad.

Scum:
This game was basically a cake walk. After killing me it was just basically riding the D1 vote. Plus, Artanis basically filled the town leader role for you. However, you need to watch your early reads on people. Early townreads aren't necessarily a bad play, but you need those reads to be effective and defendable. Part of the reason why you should townread people is to help support allies (like Artanis and DYH), to buddy/pocket town players (to throw them off), or to help push a scumread on a townie.

Everyone:
1. You should ALWAYS have a reason for why you're posting what you're posting. If you're town, you should be trying to move the game forward. If you're scum, you should be holding the game back (somehow). Before you hit the button to post, ask your self "Is this post helping me meet my win condition?" If the answer is no, then change what you're writing or delete it.
2. Figure out your role in the game. By this I mean, do you need to be a follower or a leader. A team with all chieftans and no Indians will lose because there's no direction as the team is being drawn in too many directions. A team with all Indians and no chieftans will lose because there's never a direction anywhere. FYI, just because you're VT doesn't mean you're an indian. Just because your a role doesn't mean you're a chieftan.

On April 18 2016 01:49 boxerfred wrote:
GB you suck hard