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On March 09 2016 00:22 Tumblewood wrote:I liked how he drew a decent conclusion from Shape's observation. It shows that his question wasn't just a token "look at me participating" question. It was, what, his first post? so I'm not putting him into either category yet.
I remember really liking this post at the time. Still do. I think I'll keep tumbletown.
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On March 09 2016 02:11 Koshi wrote:
I just need yamato or somebody else to tell me why yamato feels the need to explain a Vivax, Shape and slam read through geript who he doesn't even scumread.
I think this is the point I should've flat out called Yam town. There's something about seeing those posts again. There's something that I can relate to having 3-4 reads juggling in your head that you're working through. It makes me really dislike Koshi's push here because it's a deep read that I think he should get.
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On March 12 2016 08:19 Koshi wrote:
##vote Shape
This is just based on the fact Kush scumread Shape and he didn't really explained why Shape was mafia except for the fact that Shape is good mafia.
Jumping forward a bit, but between Shape's hanging on/posting off of Kush's stuff I don't think Shape's a good lynch at all. Plus he hasn't said anything at sticks out to me so far.
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On March 09 2016 04:06 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 03:53 Vivax wrote:
shape goes to town pile, kush being town is old news.
ill expand on the reasons when i see tumblewood being around WOW! I got it right! prob. is that I hate the fact that he town read me in this and went against kush, especially when kush has another reason why tumble may be mafia. According with the logic that vivax thinks tumble is scum. If kush is scum with tumble, it makes no sense to go after his partner without a case even being written. I know that he did not scum read Kush, but it is weird that he drop the town read on kush, when kush did something townie IMO.
Maybe I spoke too soon but this post is really convoluted. Maybe I'm just tired and things are sticking out at me. I just hate the "Call X person scum for not calling Y person town" argument.
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On top of 15. Too tired to continue. I think Yam/Tumble/Shape are all town. Koshi, Rels, Slam I'm unsure on. It feels odd that Kush doesn't vote slam at the 48 hour mark or so, but Koshi being another solo voter then bugs me. I think I want to lynch between Slam and Rels. The Rels 49 hour blow up really bugs me, but I'm not seeing a reason to call slam anything but scum. I'll read more when I get up around 3-4 but for now ##slam.
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I can unfortunately think of at least a few reasons that Slam could be town.
1) My assessment of his posting (could be flawed)
2) Kush did vote him late in the day
3)They interact a fair amount
But
1) Kush could have been the 48hr hammer and wasn't
2) Kush's read on Slam was quite oddly phrased
3) Slam's read on Kush was ??? Townreads for little apparent reason, and has this post defending Kush:
On March 10 2016 09:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:These posts seem quite incongruent. On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I think ima vote alakaslam. Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.: On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever. "geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing". But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ?? On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi? Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you. Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind. On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list. hmm If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town. How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum? Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say. And you'd be wrong. Kush can completely feel this way genuinely without being anything other than "in the future"; seeing Rels good points, he agrees. But, upon deciding I am likely town, he re-analyzes Rels push as possibly scum motivated, due to the reasons he stated. This clarification in no way means I agree with him. I have put no thought into it at all.
Difficult to decide on Slam, honestly.
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Well. Maybe I will vote Rels.
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After reading his filter, I don't think there's much implicating Rels as Kush's scumbuddy. They interact quite a bit, and while I don't understand his unthinking townread of Kush, it can be excused as seemingly most of you had no issue with kush's play.
Rels also seems like one of the more invested people in making actual reads. It would be a poor lynch IMO without seeing more of what he has to say currently.
I also shy away from lynching Slam, as I saw a kush quote where he pushes a Slam lynch in the third 24 hour period quite heavily. I will look more closely at Kush's filter.
Koshi, it would be nice if you played the game more interactively right now. I get that you were upset and all but I think you can still manage to be more useful.
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Does mafia kush defend Vivax and push on his scumbuddy Slam as an alternate lynch?
Hm. I also think that it's possible he was going to vote Slam on the 2nd 24hr period and just forgot.
I'd say it's quite unlikely Slam is mafia.
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I am not upset at all. Vivax is gone so I am perfectly fine.
I am just slacking.
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On March 14 2016 03:55 yamato77 wrote:
Does mafia kush defend Vivax and push on his scumbuddy Slam as an alternate lynch?
Hm. I also think that it's possible he was going to vote Slam on the 2nd 24hr period and just forgot.
I'd say it's quite unlikely Slam is mafia.
That's not an awful point. But when he pushed on Slam, iirc it didn't feel really strong. He may have been willing to bus if need be but need didn't arise. The fact that he doesn't vote Slam near 48 mark when I'm pretty sure he posted some OR in the 49-72 mark when he's still tow reading Vivax is really odd. Like he's solo voting for a long while and that's something veterans try to avoid as Mafia generally.
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Is there a reason why rels stopped scumreading geript?
He was 100% certain geript was mafia.
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Guess we can lynch the slamfish first though.
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Is there enough train of thought in Rels his filter?
He has a lot of scumreads.
First shape
Then thumble
Then geript
Then Slam
dnu if that is possible.
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No it's actually
Shape
tumble
slam
geript
vivax
all on D1
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dnu why mafia would have so many scumreads though. Quite uncharacteristic.
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On March 13 2016 12:51 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2016 09:03 Koshi wrote:On March 13 2016 08:45 Alakaslam wrote:
lynch shape next. Why? Pure meta
Push the same thing Kush pushed.
Lol I can breaky my metay U know 
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On March 14 2016 06:19 Koshi wrote:
dnu why mafia would have so many scumreads though. Quite uncharacteristic.
Kush had a bunch of scum reads and TheCow in Team did as well.
Pretty sure mafia do it for easy town cred, and it is hard for town to determine if it is true or not (you could look into the scum reads, and try to determine if their legit or not. But that is not always so easy.)
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