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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 02:44 GMT
#582
Geript I don't get why that group of people was especially weird. Who was scum on that wagon?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 11:09 GMT
#599
On March 10 2016 15:43 geript wrote:
Yeah. He's been my #2 for a while but I want to look at Rels, Kush and Koshi again.


So you want to lynch the 4 towiest people in the game.
For no reasons.
You look like you aren't reading. Are you?
What happened to your read on alaka?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 12:17 GMT
#600
On March 10 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.

Kush his initial reasoning was "WOW such good point by Rels, top town"
Kush his second reasoning was ""WOW such good point by Rels, maybe it is mafia on mafia because it is so good"


That second reasoning was just saying I think rels is town regardless of how alaka flips. Like his play is so townie That it would make more sense for it to be a bus then for him to be scum. That was not a reasoning for alaka.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 12:18 GMT
#601
That doesn't make sense but you know what I mean
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 12:27 GMT
#602
Geript
Tumblewood
Shapelog
Yamato7
Alakaslam

My sxumlist is way too long. I'm going to try to slim this down later
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 12:31 GMT
#605
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 12:32 GMT
#606
I do suck at reading shape and I'm extra cautious about him. I don't have a reason to town him though.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:07 GMT
#615
what is your native language? Belgsh?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:11 GMT
#616
Geript:
On the one hand, if you look at his content there is very very little there.
On the other hand, how he's playing is just so infuriating, which is not something I associate with scum.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:15 GMT
#617
On March 10 2016 22:02 Koshi wrote:
My biggest reason to suspect Rels is that has no conviction in solving the game and his reads.

1-"We need the info from the flip"
2- The push on Alakaslam
3- "geript 100% mafia even if Alakaslam isn't mafia"
4- The constant double reads. "x is mafia but x could be town because this reason" "x is town but could be mafia because y"
5- How he attempted to read me twice but cannot commit an alignment on me.


I would feel better voting him first because I think he really is mafia but Vivax deserves to be out of this game.


1-Rels said we need d1 to end. I agree. D1 is the shittiest day and a longer d2 or d3 would be much more helpful.
2-His push on alaka was justified by reasons.
3-A little bit of an overreaction, but he wanted a flip and geript took it away from him. It's like dangling a chocolate in front of your face and pulling it away when you are about to bite it. I can see why that would make him mad.
4-I don't know whwy that's scummy.
5-So?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:17 GMT
#618
On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.

Mindmelding.

I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree.
For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.

You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going.


I've remember some of your mindmelding and none of it is about why someone is scum. I don't see why scum can't mindmeld with you about townreads or what someone's intentions were.
Have you ever played with scumShape? It's scary as fuck because he looks super town, writes a lot, and his tone is very happy and carefree.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:23 GMT
#619
On March 10 2016 09:05 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 23:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night.


So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem.
He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads:
On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Step up your activity if possible or tell us why if you can't , would also be nice to know how experienced you are at mafia.

I'm particularly interested into knowing whether you think geript's reason to read you is sufficient to read you as town

I can't be active during my classes (except for some small 5-10 minute periods), which are from 8-3 PST. Wednesdays and weekends my schedule is more flexible. I also just post less than most players, usually about one page of filter per day cycle.
I have 2.5 (+1 observed) game of mafia on this site and 70 games of Town of "not even real mafia" Salem.
Geript didn't really give a reason for his read of me, so... no? What are you so interested to find out from that?


do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you?

Would you even care if we lynched you?

To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions."

His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"?
I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against.

I think this is a poor case against Tumble.

1) Vivax did indeed spend a lot of the early game asking pointless questions about anatomy. He really only gave a solid read after I told him he was trash. Even since, he's been more interested in fighting with Koshi than finding mafia. It's pretty funny IMO.

2) Tumble expects SOMETHING from Slam as a defense. Why is sheeping a townread a bad thing, exactly? I don't agree with doing it but I can see how someone in his position does.

Not a solid reason for a #1 scumread IMO.


1 I wasn't considering the anatomy questions. And Tumble shouldn't have been, since they were clearly in the domain of the joke phase.

2 Because he's sheeping a townread whose reasonign is some complicated meta thing he doesn't even understand. I can see sheeping a townreads reasoning but that's not what's happening here.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:24 GMT
#621
On March 10 2016 09:09 yamato77 wrote:
These posts seem quite incongruent.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="<script id="gpt-impl-0.4265876467571826" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script>http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 06:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.


How can you townread Rels for calling Slam scum (for a reason you find actually good) and then say that if Slam is scum it makes Rels MORE likely scum?

Really horrid reasoning there, I'd say.


Because I don't think scum is capable of seeing that unless they know it's true.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:49 GMT
#628
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 13:55 GMT
#631
On March 10 2016 22:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 22:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 22:46 Vivax wrote:
kush can you just vote slam or me so this game stops stagnating? Im not sure if i will be around this evening, im sure I dont want to be around for long given how shit some players are this game, i dont even care if i get lynched, it would be a blessing.


i want to look to close read slam (and tumble's) recent activity. I've just skimmed over it so far.


dude we don't have time for that. Just lynch slam please, if he's mafia gerupt is mafia easy game.

you are getting distracted by stuff that's not relevant.


dont pressure me bro!
i have time today to read over everything and make a good decision.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 14:12 GMT
#642
On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript


I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 14:14 GMT
#645
On March 10 2016 23:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 23:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:09 Rels wrote:
Vivax Slam is likely scum but geript is confirmed scum. There is no possibility town!geript ninja unvoted with no mention of being in the thread after what he's been saying all game. It is not possible.
##Vote geript


I can see a busy geript looking at the thread near EoD, being like this wagon smells fishy, and getting cold feet.


kush have you been smoking weed again?


what is unreasonable about that?
I've been thinking about geript and trying to empathize with his play. His read on alaka was probably mostly posturing.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 14:15 GMT
#649
Why would mafia do that... it brings huge obvious intention to him. MAfia is never going to do that to save a scumbuddy. only thing I can think of is wifom, which you can't base a read on.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 14:50 GMT
#673
On March 10 2016 23:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 23:44 Koshi wrote:
Slam can you please throw out some reads pls. Otherwise you are going to get lynched... Not by me but people are going to get suckered in by Vivax and Rels.

People liked to talk about Saitama a lot at the start of the game- but if they actually read him, they'd know that reads D1=\= the one and only path to good town play.


Saitama gaves reads as I recall.
How am I supposed to read you without reads? Help me.

It looks like you just come in every now and then and leave NAI comments on things.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 15:26 GMT
#712
On March 11 2016 00:10 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 23:58 Rels wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Actually I can do TR.

Geript and Koshi, very strong (note my first vote is in fact Geript! It's also the shortest duration vote in the game!)

Yamato, fairly strong

Kush, solid but not strong.

The rest I could easily question either way. I am not solid on anyone being scum, but my highest probabilities right now are of course Vivax and one of Rels/Shapelog.

Why geript and yamato town ?

Geript I know fairly well. He is better at scum than you are supposing.

Yamato could be an epic pocket of massive proportions because my tr is solely from agreeing with him a lot.

Why does geript being better at scum make him less likely to be scum?
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