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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 00:43 GMT
#304
I always thought Vivax was Italian for some reason.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 00:51 GMT
#305
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Still want to lynch Tumble.
Why are mafia less likely to attack targets that have "done little of note"?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 01:41 GMT
#307
Vivax what does it matter if he cares or not. Scummy stuff is coming out of his mouth regardless.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 12:14 GMT
#331
Shapelog
Yamato
Rels
Alakaslam
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 12:40 GMT
#334
Dunno i. Have to look at stuff which I will do in the next couple hours
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:20 GMT
#353
koshi that's really over the top compared to what vivax said.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:30 GMT
#358
Last post I'll devote to this drama, but koshi you are in the wrong here.
There is a big difference between calling people bad and using the language you are using.

Vivax's insults shouldn't affect you as much as they do. I have seen him call Marv bad on multiple occasions. Do you think Marv is bad? He just says that when he thinks someone is wrong.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:54 GMT
#368
On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.

Saitama was quite better than that.


About alakaslam:
He's still null to me, and I'm not liking the points brought against him.
  • Geript - he's scum because godread
    The reasoning behind this read seems to be something between tone and lack of trolling. I think there has been a distinct change in slam's tone recently as both alignments. He seems meaner.
    The trolling thing is dumb. Slam can turn that on or off as either alignment.
  • Shape - he's scum because of he did a PoE
    Since when does a simple PoE make someone scum?
  • Vivax - he's scum because he's playing less townie comparitively to Saitama.
    He was trying to not be recognized so it's hard to compare it to that.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:56 GMT
#369
vivax don't aggitate the koshi. we need him or we get one less mislynch I think.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 14:07 GMT
#372
I think we should lynch tonight. The reason being is that d1 is going to give us dimishing returns due to lack of information and lack of urgency.

It looks like the two wagons are tumble and alaka which are both good day 1 lynches. They are going to be question marks for the rest of the game anyway.

Koshi, about yamato.. I actually liked his early game a lot. He said some things I was also thinking.
Koshi, how do you feel about alaka or tumble?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 14:29 GMT
#374
On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night.


So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem.
He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads:
On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 08:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Step up your activity if possible or tell us why if you can't , would also be nice to know how experienced you are at mafia.

I'm particularly interested into knowing whether you think geript's reason to read you is sufficient to read you as town

I can't be active during my classes (except for some small 5-10 minute periods), which are from 8-3 PST. Wednesdays and weekends my schedule is more flexible. I also just post less than most players, usually about one page of filter per day cycle.
I have 2.5 (+1 observed) game of mafia on this site and 70 games of Town of "not even real mafia" Salem.
Geript didn't really give a reason for his read of me, so... no? What are you so interested to find out from that?


do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you?

Would you even care if we lynched you?

To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions."

His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"?
I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 15:30 GMT
#376
On March 10 2016 00:22 Vivax wrote:
im actually unvoting slam cause my current opinion is that if we lynch slam geript and tumble we win the game easily.

Since i dont see mafia being outside of these guys atm and gerupt doing a d1 insta bus is not impossible but unlikely, id rather have it my way than his, so im going to vote him or tumblewood and worry about slam later.


tumble/geript looks almost just as unlikely to me.
I wouldn't put it past experienced scum to "sheep" their teammate as kind of a tricky anti-meta thing to do, but I doubt tumble would.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 16:06 GMT
#380
@Tumble
Q1:
Have you filtered Vivax? It seems to me you are scumreading not only for a bad reason (his question to you) but for a very small part of his total content.


Q2:
How did you decide you want to sheep geript on alakaslam?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 18:06 GMT
#391
Alakaslam can you expand on your townread of tumble? Was it mainly that early assessment of me vs shape that you agreed with or is there something I'm not seeing?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 18:54 GMT
#406
@slam, why?
No one's been a dick to you. If you don't feel like answering out questions that's fine.
If you don't feel like playing at all maybe replace out?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 19:08 GMT
#410
I could see slam giving up like that if scumteam was slam/tumble. Otherwise it would just be uncharacteristically mean to his scumteam.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 21:20 GMT
#419
I think ima vote alakaslam.
Rels makes a really good point here and makes me townread rels pretty hard.:
On March 10 2016 03:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:
On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.

waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position

On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.

But let's see

I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch.

On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute

This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum.

On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):

##Vote tumblewood

This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here.

Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose.

If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option.

These are excellent points

Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/

And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.

"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi?

Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town +<script id="gpt-impl-0.9145947964961816" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_81.js"></script> I don't understand his case on you.

Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 21:55 GMT
#421
On March 10 2016 06:44 Koshi wrote:
Well if slam is scum I can remove Rels from the list.


hmm
If slam is scum, I'd say that actually makes Rels more likely to be scum. Because it's really hard for scum to bring thoughtful points like that againt town.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 23:23 GMT
#508
gdammit for some reason i thought lynch was at 8 pm.
gonnna catch up.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 23:29 GMT
#517
On March 10 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 15:47 geript wrote:
Either way. I need to sleep. Long shift of playing in ball abscesses and shit... Literally.

You guys need to understand that we need to lynch. We have limited time in order to be able to lynch scum and burning 72 or 96 hours on D1 is unacceptable especially when we will always lose 24 hours for night phases. So we can go 4-4-5 which will assuredly end in 3 bad lynches or go 3-3-3-3 which will be better but lowers odds of a productive lynch on D3/4 as interest wanes. Best option is to lynch and keep the days and information moving before shit stagnates.

Yeah I know that we need to lynch, But that tumble lynch was shit.

The main people on that lynch were:
Vivax: Reasons i quoted + hopefully a more helpful case (still reading)
Kush: shitty Meta reasons, though i can believe that Town! kush is capable of that.
Rels: just kinda of jumped on the wagon.

Tell me that lynch was good. I mean just the fact that when people (regardless of alignment) jumped on for little reasoning is a bit sus. I can't even remember what Rels actually has said, I might filter him after this lynch due short time.


the fuck are you even talking about. you are misrepresenting mine and rels reasons so badly. especially mine, which have NOTHING to do with meta. You used meta to defend him and I refuted it. That's the only time meta came into play.
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