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for anyone who cares filter-wise, this is the last post in each of these 3 players' filter before FF became conf town:
On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb
On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null).
On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ?
everything before that in their filters is pre-FF town
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btw audience this one or hold it? opinions?
esp with breshke currently afk and unsure when/if he is coming back in the next 23 hrs, it means we have an obs QT that has 0 mafia influence or at most 1 in like 15.
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On February 26 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:13 ritoky wrote:for anyone who cares filter-wise, this is the last post in each of these 3 players' filter before FF became conf town: On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null). On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? everything before that in their filters is pre-FF town So?
rels scum read breshke and town read VA prior to the 50/50 being used, the other 2 didn't have very many reads at all prior to the 50/50 being used.
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kush you got an opinion on using the audience thing now w/ an untainted/nearly untainted obs or hold it until necessary?
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shape it is like discussing the people in my cell discussing eachother extensively right now. there's not exactly a huge point to it because 1) it may have no consequence and 2) there will be a virtual cornucopia of information between now and when it is relevant to discuss.
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HtS had a really good read on LS, the rest of the obs i don't really think has a particularly good read on him. i know rayn struggles to read rels; and there's a couple people who tend to mix newb with scum in the obs kinda a mixed bag.
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On February 26 2016 09:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 09:22 ritoky wrote:
HtS had a really good read on LS, the rest of the obs i don't really think has a particularly good read on him. i know rayn struggles to read rels; and there's a couple people who tend to mix newb with scum in the obs kinda a mixed bag. ya but is hts keeping up with the game?
the other problem is generally that obs activity looks like this from my experience:
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Distance-time_graph_example.png)
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wow, there's some walls of text in dis bitch. had a bad night, don't feel like reading them right now. will read them in a couple hrs.
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On February 27 2016 03:34 darthfoley wrote:
also that took for fucking ever so please at least read it before you shit in my butt
wow, intense
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damdred you might have to fight me this game.
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i know my read on LS is awful, but he literally has given 0 fucks toward finding scum, and once he spammed caps and got his freebie town reads he has pretty much checked out mentally.....meanwhile you got 2 guys making cases out their asses....but for some fucking reason neither even considers LS possible...just blows my fucking mind.
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i read rels' case against darth and his case for LS (self cases are stupid and no-one ever reads them) and still the only good point in the darth case is the one about how he declares me town leader and calls rels scum when the difference between our reads was minor at most. that could be scum indicative because of the uneven standard of judgment. but the rest of the case is a giant pile of meh to me.
his case for LS is literally still "he typed in caps, meta ez". i mean i don't mean to grossly oversimplify it, but that really is the core of it. which is such a horseshit read that even if it is true will never convince me in any game ever of anyone's alignment. especially if they know about it and can easily replicate it.
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On February 27 2016 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I said Ritoky I had darth by PoE before their cases(I thought Rels was town by meta alone) and I not a good case maker myself(even though I did make cases on people that actually were scum but they were terrible cases) plus activity been low today so(shrugs).
so what, find scum in other cells. give opinions earlier in the game about cell order and other cells. find things you think are suspicious. push for answers. like you're doing none of your super active normal shit. you're reminding me of rsoul as mafia, just do all your tells, make friends, make jokes, no1 will ever notice!
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On February 27 2016 09:54 LightningStrike wrote:
So ritoky since you are here comment on my reads that I had posted?
On February 26 2016 05:43 LightningStrike wrote:Warning Wall of Text: Okay here are my reads now: Cell A: Ritoky-Town: I liked his posts for the most part and he actually tried to stir discussion up. Sicklucker-Null: I lost my ability to read him after Linux  kur-Either Newbie Town or Scum: I like some of his posts but I also don't like some of them. I will need to prod him and sicklucker to see who the scum are in this Cell. Cell B: OWS-Town: It feels like town OWS here and I like some of his posts. Damdred-Town: Emotional Damdred is Town Damdred plus he tried to stir up discussion too. Shape-PoE Scum: Unfortunately you are my scum by PoE in that cell I know you just played a scum game recently(Will check it) but I just think OWS and Damdred are townier than you <3 though Cell C: Me-Towm: I know my alignment obviously lol. Rels-Town: Rels as scum was more into buddying people and plus angry Rels is town Rels too. I also liked most of his posts so far. Darth-Scum: PoE Scum probably a newbie scum. His content was kinda meh in my opinion. Cell D: FF-Town: Confirmed via 50-50 much more carefree than the last few games I had played with him. VA-Null Townlean: I honestly dislike his filter but it not as bad as Breshke in my mind. If I wrong on anyone in this cell it's VA I don't know how to read properly. Breshke-Scum: Never tried to defend himself after the 50-50 happened and never explained why VA was the scum. Cell E: kush-town: Tryhard kush is town kush plus his probing seems townie. Vivax-Town: Seems to be a little bit more tryhard plus he already had tried to do a tinfoil which he normally does as town.(Him and Shape should be best friends lol) Bum-scum: PoE Scum He misrepresented me hard about FF rage quitting when it was Sicklucker who told FF to stop posting. Plus his content been meh for a Vet player.
gladly
ritoky - easiest read to make in the game
SL - non-committal and non-helpful
kura - promises made about prodding and doing shit that never actually got done
OWS - "feels like town" much specific
damdred - more feelings
shape - poe scum, but hey let me promise to read his filter and never actually do anything substantive with it + let me spam 3 pages of my filter making useless joke posts with him. there's no better way to spend time!
rels - town cuz anger more tone/emotion, no proof
darth - poe
kush - town cuz tryhard...terrible read and is wrong
vivax - town cuz tryhard, slightly better than above
bum - poe
so all of your scum reads are poe, all of your town reads are meta or emotion, and every player you think is scum happens to be the players in this game who are people who would qualify as new players or LHF in their cell; plus the effort level in these reads is minimal.
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like i am probably just wrong and LS isn't mafia and damdred will come in here and bitch smack me into reality but i just don't see it....he's promising things and not delivering on them when he clearly has the time to do so, he is pretty much exclusively concerned with being town read and then could give 2 shits which is survivalist mindset aka scum, and his reads are just simplistic blahhhhhhh with no depth and targeting LHF.....
and him typing in capslock is supposed to overrule all of that shit that just isn't town behavior? i will never be able to properly read him if that's just how it is.
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the main problem i am having here is that my primary reason for scum reading rels is his take on his cell.
he had no reads early on but had a read on everyone else in the game, which felt strange to me because there's the other two should have a 50% chance of being scum to him so he should focus on them more (considering they were going to go in the first 3). then LS comes in and does caps and rels is like "bam lock town, never look back, darth is scum". which to me is and forever will be a horseshit read. from there he starts building a case on darth and basically makes anything and everything darth says = he is scum. which reads bad to me because there's no open-mindedness and it is over garbage.
but the more rels types the more i really do think he believes his read on LS is like god tier accurate and just right. which then kinda makes the rest of his play super sensible because he believes with probably 99% certainty he found scum and it's just a matter of convincing everyone.
but the thing with darth is that i just feel like he is town.....new players don't tend to make progressions like this as scum:
On February 25 2016 05:58 ritoky wrote:
i disagree with you though i think there's a very real chance darth is town. that post i quoted recently is pretty town. he basically says:
here are LS's reads -> oh wow they line up fairly close to mine -> wait a second, he thinks i am more mafia than rels -> shouldn't he think the opposite if he agrees with me and disagrees with rels? -> pressure him on this point.
that's a pretty town line of play.
esp when they were so bad in their previous iteration. the literal only thing holding me back from hard defending him and fighting people over thinking he is town is his read on me vs rels regarding VA.
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which leaves me at LS, who i think has taken an overwhelming town read that most of the game seems to understand but even after multiple games with him i cannot seem to grasp, and done piss all with it.
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now if you'll excuse me i have to go finish making my pollo en mole for a special occaision
damdred you need to bitch smack me if i am floating in space right now, or someone does cuz this is like a wall for me that i probably won't be able to get past myself.
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On February 27 2016 10:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
yo ritoky we gotta use our ask the girls power. why aren't you using it?
cuz if i do use it i have to use it in the first 24 hrs, hence why i was asking yesterday if i should. i made the choice not to use it this cell cuz i am a pussy and listened to other ppl.
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On February 27 2016 12:08 darthfoley wrote:
Does anyone object to using the audience power on this cell? If so, why?
irrelevant now
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