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(note: above post is mostly facetious)
Anyway, I remembered a meta thing that makes me very comfortable lynching scott here. Yeah, okay, we probably don't need more reasoning to lynch scott, but whatever.
In that game where I was mafia and mislynched scott, whatever it was called, scott got somewhat emotionally involved and became sure that I was scum and was calling for my lynch after he died.
Even when he was mislynched Day 1, he was invested in the game in a way more than he's been across all of this game combined. Voting for scott.
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Also, ROFL at Shapelog in the voting thread XD I've never seen that before. That deserves an award nomination 
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On February 22 2016 13:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 13:41 Breshke wrote:On February 22 2016 13:40 rsoultin wrote:On February 22 2016 13:36 Breshke wrote:
I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway.
I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open?
I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right
um, you mean, if we think it's easy and poe'd down to the three of them, shouldn't they think it's even more in the bag, since the town player presumably already knows who the scum are? essentially? Yes okay, yeah, i see where you're coming from lol >< just not really sure what we're supposed to get from it? like, if it's just scott and tumble here maybe they're having trouble finding a townie to push cause no thread pull/presence, but you'd think they'd either try something anyway or just buss -shrugs- idk pssst
Tumblewood isn't mafia
I forget why but he isn't  My early townreads are almost never wrong. Remember PepperMintTea? Kuragari42? DoYouHas? I'll figure out why he is town later, but he's town.
Next question, why is Tictock townreading scott31337? I think I know the answer...
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On February 22 2016 13:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 13:45 Trfel wrote:On February 22 2016 13:44 rsoultin wrote:On February 22 2016 13:41 Breshke wrote:On February 22 2016 13:40 rsoultin wrote:On February 22 2016 13:36 Breshke wrote:
I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway.
I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open?
I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right
um, you mean, if we think it's easy and poe'd down to the three of them, shouldn't they think it's even more in the bag, since the town player presumably already knows who the scum are? essentially? Yes okay, yeah, i see where you're coming from lol >< just not really sure what we're supposed to get from it? like, if it's just scott and tumble here maybe they're having trouble finding a townie to push cause no thread pull/presence, but you'd think they'd either try something anyway or just buss -shrugs- idk pssst Tumblewood isn't mafia I forget why but he isn't My early townreads are almost never wrong. Remember PepperMintTea? Kuragari42? DoYouHas? I'll figure out why he is town later, but he's town. Next question, why is Tictock townreading scott31337? I think I know the answer... lol >< shhhh pre-flipped associates are baaaaad truffle wuffle But when they're correct?
Okay, you're right, I should stop being a jerk. And no, I'm nowhere near as confident as I'm pretending to be, but I'm finding it quite fun to taunt you Seriously though, let me catch up on the thread (1 page to go) then I'll go through their filters and make up some reasons to fit my pre-made conclusions.
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On February 22 2016 14:00 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2016 13:37 Trfel wrote:
(note: above post is mostly facetious)
Anyway, I remembered a meta thing that makes me very comfortable lynching scott here. Yeah, okay, we probably don't need more reasoning to lynch scott, but whatever.
In that game where I was mafia and mislynched scott, whatever it was called, scott got somewhat emotionally involved and became sure that I was scum and was calling for my lynch after he died.
Even when he was mislynched Day 1, he was invested in the game in a way more than he's been across all of this game combined. Voting for scott. This doesn't look so invested to me... Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 09:01 scott31337 wrote:On February 18 2016 05:59 disformation wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Palmar (4): nooniansoong, sicklucker, Shapelog, rsoultin, sicklucker, Tictock, Eden1892, Tumblewood scott31337 (4): sicklucker, Trfel, Breshke, rsoultin, sicklucker GlowingBear(2): nooniansoong, scott31337, nooniansoong Breshke(1): Palmar Tumblewood (1): The Shining, sickluckernooniansoong (1): GlowinBear Trfel (0): ShapelogEden1892 (0): Trfel, sickluckerSicklucker(0): Tictock, Palmar, GlowingBear, ShapelogThe Shining (0): Eden1892, sickluckerShapelog (0): rsoultin, Trfel, nooniansoong, Breshke, TumblewoodNot Voting (0):At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.Day 1 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted. I just got back I've been running around for work and just got home - great, it was town on town and now I have to shit some magical rainbows or the scummers are going to get me next - and I wasn't around to change my vote. I still have 20 pages to catch up, dinner to cook and beer to drink after a long day... (no follow up for like 12 hours) Lies = Probably mafia I believe that you are saying my point exactly, so I'm not sure what you're saying?
Also, if I may, weren't you townreading scott31337?
And, if I still may, please explain why Breshke's post makes him mafia?
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So I'm sick  might not be able to do much in the next few days depending on how sick but maybe I'll be on all the time if I'm still well enough to play
Sorry
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In case I don't come back for a while, please please please don't lynch tumble before Scott
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I read some stuff last night. Paraphrased, but I felt that Tictock's read on GlowingBear was suspect.
Day 1, he provided this case to townread GlowingBear based on GlowingBear's last few scum and town games, but then he discounted this read because his read on GlowingBear is bad and because he wasn't sure.
Then on Day 2, he continually pushed Tumblewood and kept insisting that Tumblewood is mafia, but ended up voting for GlowingBear who he wasn't really sure about instead of Tumblewood.
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Well, time to stop being bad
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Scott felt completely uninvested to me. Like, potentially the most uninvested I've ever seen. I wonder if he really had that much trouble keeping up with the game, or if I was reading things wrong
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Well, if anyone wants to talk about anything, please let me know. I could use a bit more motivation.
I'm town and The Shining is town. Two mafia in the following:
Tictock
Tumblewood
Breshke
nooniansoong
rsoultin
I should probably look through all of them at this point And no more stupid associations.
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On February 24 2016 06:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 06:24 Trfel wrote:Well, if anyone wants to talk about anything, please let me know. I could use a bit more motivation. I'm town and The Shining is town. Two mafia in the following: Tictock Tumblewood Breshke nooniansoong rsoultin I should probably look through all of them at this point And no more stupid associations. i really can't be around 'till later...just checked in to see the flip :/ break and compare notes tonight? Works for me. Even though I'm mostly feeling better, I'm confined to my room for the next ~30 hours, not like I have anywhere else to go Who knows, I might actually try and reread the whole game...
Anyway, I guess I don't really know much now, so asking for questions/discussion was a bit premature. I'll answer/talk about stuff later, though.
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Okay, so I'm not rereading the thread, but I'll try to do close filter analyses for people. I'm going through Tumblewood right now, gotta do the short filters first, yay for procrastination.
If anyone wants to talk, or has people they'd prefer I looked at sooner, just let me know. I'll probably not post my analysis until I'm done with everything unless people are interested in discussing stuff.
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On February 24 2016 08:24 nooniansoong wrote:
@Trfel what's up with your tumble read? Is it totally based on 1 game's meta? Not just the meta, also normal scum/mafia traits. Tumblewood's filter feels very open and honest. He feels like a player being direct with his thoughts and approach to the game.
However, I don't like his approach to Day 1 and have one key question to Tumblewood, which will hopefully help me to place the perspective of his Day 1.
@Tumblewood:
Why did you have Palmar as a scum lean in this post?
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@Tictock:
1. At the start of the game, you said that you found sicklucker's posts interesting. However, you didn't follow up by asking any questions for him or working on your read on him until the night before the deadline, where you finally looked at his filter. If his play was so interesting, why this delay?
2. What happened to your suspicion of Shapelog on Day 1? This post doesn't show it, despite you showing suspicions of Shapelog not long before.
3. I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the thought process behind your tinfoil post. Before this post, you were thinking that scott31337 was town because of the spread vote count. So, you went into the tinfoil post with the assumption that scott31337 is scum, right? And came out with the conclusion that scott31337, Tumblewood, and nooniansoong is a sensible scum team. So, what I don't get is, why do you go with this assumption and vote for Tumblewood, if you had reason to believe that scott31337 is town and never showed why this is wrong? And why vote for Tumblewood and not scott31337 to begin with?
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On February 24 2016 10:53 Tictock wrote:
What magic are you using for those Kush?
and do you really think that's the best way to guage people's alignments? Oh hey, nice timing
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On February 24 2016 11:27 Breshke wrote:
Could people please tell me what they are currently reading me as I don't know. I guess I can try to read your filter before the end of the night, will probably save nooniansoong and rsoultin for later (yay procrastination!).
Tictock, thanks a bunch for answering my questions, I'll look through some stuff.
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Tictock, follow-up questions:
On February 17 2016 15:52 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote:ehh I have a problem with these two posts. On February 16 2016 09:27 Shapelog wrote:On February 16 2016 09:17 Trfel wrote:Shapelog, why do you not care that I caught mafia I am actually writing a reply to your questions Lol. But about Eden, tbh not a whole lot to go off of (I mean like 4 posts not counting the miller softclaim joke). In those two posts: Set up speculation, Rosukl Town read, Asking if people abject to Miller claiming, Miller claiming. Like why would mafia push Miller claiming AND while speculating that a DT is in a game? On February 16 2016 23:19 Shapelog wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Sick Mafia Stat that while it has not…] +
OK so this is great. I was reading R-Girl's Filter and This pop into my head. This is comptlely Off topic and I highly suggest to you to NOT reply to this. IT will clog up the thread and my filter with useless crap. Only thing worth noting is the end.
SUPPOSE THAT THE MILLERS are NOT Aware. Cheekey right? I mean we have had everyone post and no one claimed. What if mafia posts a list like Eden's. Saying the Millers sound aware (while knowing somehow either by mafia knowledge or host question). and THEN having their partner claim Miller? Sure, they might run into problems later on. But that would be a amazing play.
IMPORTANT INFO
So, While I am all for Millers to claim if they are aware. I think we need to be careful since we do not actually know if Millers are really Millers. And if we have a DT, they can not check. Further more, we need to see if there is any associative behavior with the person who claims Miller and with people like Eden who assumes Millers are aware.
the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware. then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape This is actually a really good point. I thought that tinfoil was off, but I was thinking more because it was silly to keep talking about the miller stuff when nobody claimed. Also if Eden was mafia I'd imagine he would have just claimed Miller himself and let us sort out that they are in fact aware. + Show Spoiler +ok actually I have no idea if Eden would do that as scum (never played with the guy/gal before), but I'm pretty sure I would have Ugh, I didn't want to have to go look at Shapes mafia filter, but I'm getting the feeling I may need to. What happened to this?
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Darn it Tictock, I really want you to be scum, but I'm just not seeing it right now
Maybe my analysis stinks, but bleh. I can see Tictock's play from a town perspective and I don't have any great reasons to think otherwise. Mostly just the association with GlowingBear and a potential argument that he's following instead of leading? Which are valid arguments, but feel like I'm stretching.
Meh, I'll look into Breshke.
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