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On February 19 2016 12:29 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote: Well I'm caught up and pretty confused.
GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird. you! On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote:On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote: ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing
in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper Oh I'm not supposed to do that? Seriously where did I do this? Does the fact that I'm not sure about your alignment yet still read your posts mean something to you? + Show Spoiler [Hint] +Like right now, you are pestering me to talk about something you care about - Townpoints
You insulate I'm stealing your reads or something somewhere, but refuse to backup where this happened - Scum points
Simply put you are confusing, but not as interesting as some of the scummers
>> at some point he'll realize this has already been adressed
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On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote: I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it.
it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum!
more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself...
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On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote: I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself...
ye, one-shot vig
if vig isn't ccing here they're an idiot lol >< so retarded scum it is
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ye okay i'm talking to myself...i guess i have to actually do work now :/
bastards
hasta la bye-bye
+ Show Spoiler +also...secret GB read pending -bounces-
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On February 19 2016 12:48 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote: I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself... no shining is definitely the real vigi here. I thought GB's claim was more believable at the time but wasnt aware of shinings situation. Idk if GB claiming the shot on the wrong player is alignment indicative or not. The take a bullet play certainly isn't because we are 2 ML from losing but yeah. Unless im wrong on my townreads on trefel or rsoul which im starting to get paranoid about the D1 votes really don't look that good for scott
lol ye agreed
like...GB will either do what a town GB would do at this point or he won't
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voting scott for info cause voting for info is bad and i sooooo want to be a baddie
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On February 19 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:56 rsoultin wrote: voting scott for info cause voting for info is bad and i sooooo want to be a baddie Since you still seem to be here, I disagree with your analysis that mafia is stupid with regards to the night actions. I see it more like mafia who is more worried about power roles, thought that Shapelog and sicklucker were both power roles, and were worried about potential medic save on Shapelog (even if sicklucker is the medic).
shhhh if i call them stupid and they start growling at me for unexplained reasons, we've found mafia!
ye, i guess they could have thought getting rid of a medic sl was the best way to play that, but that still falls into the stupid cat...anyone thinking sl is actually blue with his posting at night and all that should have their head examined lol ><
(tbf you're prob right)
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On February 19 2016 13:02 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 18:25 Tictock wrote:4) Tumblewood 5) Breshke 6)nooniansoong 8) The Shining 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Ok this was where I was at earlier, Shining's recent posts make me fairly convinced he is town, Bre and Tumble are also townleans for me. So that leaves me with.... 6)nooniansoong 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Rsoul is pretty null to me, I see her mostly playing peacekeeper and her posting style makes it a bit hard to read her. Overall though she is pretty engaged and has been pretty open with sharing her thoughts so she's probably not a great lynch today. SL is kinda in the same boat for me, and I'm tempted to just put him on a back burner but I promised to filter dive him. So here I go... + Show Spoiler [FilterDive] +First 3 posts still feel off to me, but Rsoul pointed out that his early posts were probably in response to Trfel's open so that might explain the odd feels I'm getting. I'm actually not a fan at all of the vote on Eden. It looks really opportunistic to me, and the followup reasoning is pretty shit. On February 16 2016 09:07 sicklucker wrote: Edens never anything but vt or mafia with that post. I think are day one lynch is locked up see ya torm I also called this post out earlier because of the bolded, On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play I actually shouldn't have dropped this point, kus SL was talking about THIS particular D1 being pointless in this post which doesn't really make sense. I'm kinda thinking this was just an excuse to leave his vote on Eden. This is kinda backed up by the fact that SL is now saying he was voting for information but got none since nobody else voted Eden. I do sorta agree with SL about the setup speculation point. It's more beneficial to mafia than town imo, least in a semi-open setup like this. This read progression looks odd to me as well. On February 16 2016 15:57 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote: Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?
Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?
You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?
Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H1ZRySi.gif) town On February 17 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote: shapelogs town. im sure its my only read of the game. and maybe ticktock That first post is pretty confident, so what's making him unsure about me in the next post? Also this Shape read is outa nowhere. Another odd post, so far SL has only given reads on me and Shape, so this is his first mafia read but he doesn't want to push Rsoul kus she can spew herself town? On February 17 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote: rsoultin is giving me mafia vibes but I still wouldnt lynch her day one because like me she has a sick ability.
Its called the spew yourself town ability its the best ability to have I'm not at all sure how SL came up with these names. I'd argue that GB, Kush and to a lesser extent Tumble have all been just as lackluster at this point in the game. On February 17 2016 11:45 sicklucker wrote: ya lets just lynch scott or shining. literally no one else should be up untill they participate There's a pretty good shot SL is scum here, he is playing the path of least resistance on the lynch today and the one scum read he seems to have he doesn't want to push. Neither Kush nor Scott have done much to warrant any townreads, but I also don't see much mafia motivation in their posts either. Kush is not as active as I've seen him in recent games, but that's not necessarily indicative of much. Been a long time since i played with Scott and his posts could come from either alignment. I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler +Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB. ##Vote: Sicklucker This post...it's in the spoiler most people probably didn't read cause ppl are awesome that way ^^ eh nvm it's actually prob nothing lol @.@ he accepts my interpretation of sl's first posts...for some reason i thought there was more in there than there was Glad you could clear this up for you!
now if you could just clear up your alignment for me, we'll be golden! ^^
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On February 19 2016 13:26 Trfel wrote:Rsoultin, I'm thinking that you are mafia  Am I being stupid and wasting my time? The main reason is that I feel like the way you approached the last 45 ish minutes of Day 1 feels very mafia motivated.
well seeing as that's impossible, maybe you should tell me what you don't understand
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On February 19 2016 13:38 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 13:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 13:26 Trfel wrote:Rsoultin, I'm thinking that you are mafia  Am I being stupid and wasting my time? The main reason is that I feel like the way you approached the last 45 ish minutes of Day 1 feels very mafia motivated. well seeing as that's impossible, maybe you should tell me what you don't understand You didn't want to lynch The Shining because he's really good later on. But you were willing to lynch Palmar? Then as soon as Eden came back in and said he wanted to lynch The Shining, you suddenly produced a reason to be okay with lynching The Shining. And decided that despite wanting to lynch scott31337 earlier, you didn't want to lynch him because he didn't answer your questions (huh?) Then you switched from Palmar to scott31337, the main reason seeming to be trusting my read on Palmar? Which led you to talk to nooniansoong and GlowingBear in ALL CAPS telling them that wasted voting is stupid. For GlowingBear, you hinted (while using all caps) that he should vote to save Palmar, without actually telling him to save Palmar? And all this time, you don't have your own reason to townread Palmar? I really don't get it.
zzz
you're selectively reading again @.@
i said multiple times that how palmar was treating his breshke read and backing down from me did not look like a town palmar...i,e, scumread vs. the nullish read on shining
and if you'd read my filter carefully at all you'd notice that i still wasn't keen on lynching shining when eden came back until i noticed that he'd pushed for shape to claim and then just disappeared >< for like 45 mins or something just poofed
i'd tried to get scott to talk to me about his other reads and wanted that before lynching him, especially when i knew i was biased from the start against him and i had good reason to believe palmar was scum. yeah, i got cold feet on palmar, primarily cause i keep reading him wrong :/ but i'm not sure how that was scum-motivated? who ostensibly am i supposedly scum with that i'd rather lynch a scum-mate over palmar? lol ><
and as for the ALL CAPS, that was just in response to GB's...also i don't actually remember saying anything to noon so what are you even talking about?
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like, i don't know why you think i need to townread palmar to find it stupid that gb is trying to get people to move off palmar and onto noon -_- who had no one on him
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On February 19 2016 13:59 Trfel wrote: Okay, so it wasn't nooniansoong, it was The Shining.
It seems like I'll have to keep working on this. Just, if you're mafia and you push your filter over 15 pages so I can't read it, then you're evil.
well the mafia are demons xP (i think >> i've only been skimming the flavor lol ><)
yeah, weird isn't it, that i don't like the throw-away votes? -gasps-
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On February 19 2016 14:10 Trfel wrote: Meh, I'm being too lazy. What good is a super careful analysis if you're too lazy to actually read people's filters? XD
It'll just come out exactly like I go into it thinking. Anyway, I'm pretty confident in Tictock being town, because he genuinely feels like he's trying to solve the game and he's been sharing good thoughts (one example being his vote analysis 21 minutes after EoD, which is an unnatural time for mafia to be providing critical thinking). In addition, his posts have felt quite free; looking through Tictock's mafia games, he feels more structured as mafia than I'm seeing in this game.
I think I remember people being suspicious of Tictock, but I'm lazy, why? I get the Palmar vote being suspicious, I guess, but what else?
nh, something about lack of scumreads...at least that was eden's reasons...noon doesn't like his tinfoil
@.@ i can't remember if there was anything else. i honestly just feel meh on him...like i feel like sometimes his posts are interesting but a lot of times they feel disconnected from the thread. that said, he doesn't seem to have much time, so maybe that's why -shrugs-
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On February 19 2016 14:21 Trfel wrote: I mean, I really liked Tictock's tinfoil! To me that felt very towny.
Eden listed Tictock as obvious town, Shapelog also listed Tictock as confidently town. Were there any other notable EoD list posts I should be paying attention to? And I didn't feel a lack of scumreads from Tictock, he had a push on sicklucker and while he was gone until about an hour before EoD1, he's been systematically figuring things out and developing scum reads since.
i really just need to poke through his and some other filters ^^ too lazy tonight though
also need to take another look at tumble because i thought he was someone else @.@ which is just dumb but eh
idk, i really think that unless i find a reason to think scott's town, he's prob the best lynch today, if only to better understand the d1 votes
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lexy says i should make a post
i have nothing to post though
#awesomersoul
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gb prob is scum but not for the claim
#awesomestsoul
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breshke and truffle hates me ;o;
#sadpandasoul
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On February 20 2016 06:15 rsoultin wrote: lexy says i should make a post
i have nothing to post though
#awesomersoul
liar! you're scum!
but...but...but...;o;
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On February 20 2016 06:20 nooniansoong wrote: rsoul u like my lameass tt/gb/scott scumteam?
hmmm tt idk but gb and scott yup ^^
like there's a chance gb isn't scum here but it's pretty small and getting smaller and nope not gonna explain, ha!
i promise i might actually possibly really read filters tonight maybe >>
noooooon i started yours and you has pages o.0 why do i not remember you being that involved?
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On February 20 2016 06:26 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 06:22 rsoultin wrote:On February 20 2016 06:20 nooniansoong wrote: rsoul u like my lameass tt/gb/scott scumteam? hmmm tt idk but gb and scott yup ^^ like there's a chance gb isn't scum here but it's pretty small and getting smaller and nope not gonna explain, ha! i promise i might actually possibly really read filters tonight maybe >> noooooon i started yours and you has pages o.0 why do i not remember you being that involved? dont meta me bro. you played like 1 game with me.
i'm a guuuuurl!!!
i promise >> ignore any rumors started by the lex >>
HE DOESN'T KNOW
(lol >< more seriously, noon, i'm not "meta-ing" you, but i have been pretty impressed with your play lately and yes i've hosted games you were in -flicks- maybe i'll see that shiny when i read your filter, but this is a far cry from super!town noon)
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