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On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm caught up and pretty confused.
GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird. you! Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote:On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote:
ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing
in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper
Dude you are just repeating your accusation again without providing evidence which was what he asked for. So show exactly what he stole from you.
Ps I think you're probs scum but just ignore that for now please.
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On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote:@shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-
I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical
i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^
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On February 19 2016 12:23 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm caught up and pretty confused.
GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird. you! On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote:On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote:
ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing
in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper Dude you are just repeating your accusation again without providing evidence which was what he asked for. So show exactly what he stole from you. Ps I think you're probs scum but just ignore that for now please.
that's because it's obvious and i'm lazy and cba to find it -_-
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On February 17 2016 18:25 Tictock wrote:4) Tumblewood 5) Breshke 6)nooniansoong 8) The Shining 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Ok this was where I was at earlier, Shining's recent posts make me fairly convinced he is town, Bre and Tumble are also townleans for me. So that leaves me with.... 6)nooniansoong 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Rsoul is pretty null to me, I see her mostly playing peacekeeper and her posting style makes it a bit hard to read her. Overall though she is pretty engaged and has been pretty open with sharing her thoughts so she's probably not a great lynch today. SL is kinda in the same boat for me, and I'm tempted to just put him on a back burner but I promised to filter dive him. So here I go... + Show Spoiler [FilterDive] +First 3 posts still feel off to me, but Rsoul pointed out that his early posts were probably in response to Trfel's open so that might explain the odd feels I'm getting. I'm actually not a fan at all of the vote on Eden. It looks really opportunistic to me, and the followup reasoning is pretty shit. On February 16 2016 09:07 sicklucker wrote:
Edens never anything but vt or mafia with that post. I think are day one lynch is locked up see ya torm I also called this post out earlier because of the bolded, On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote:
because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play I actually shouldn't have dropped this point, kus SL was talking about THIS particular D1 being pointless in this post which doesn't really make sense. I'm kinda thinking this was just an excuse to leave his vote on Eden. This is kinda backed up by the fact that SL is now saying he was voting for information but got none since nobody else voted Eden. I do sorta agree with SL about the setup speculation point. It's more beneficial to mafia than town imo, least in a semi-open setup like this. This read progression looks odd to me as well. On February 16 2016 15:57 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote:
Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?
Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?
You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?
Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H1ZRySi.gif) town On February 17 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote:
shapelogs town. im sure its my only read of the game. and maybe ticktock That first post is pretty confident, so what's making him unsure about me in the next post? Also this Shape read is outa nowhere. Another odd post, so far SL has only given reads on me and Shape, so this is his first mafia read but he doesn't want to push Rsoul kus she can spew herself town? On February 17 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is giving me mafia vibes but I still wouldnt lynch her day one because like me she has a sick ability.
Its called the spew yourself town ability its the best ability to have I'm not at all sure how SL came up with these names. I'd argue that GB, Kush and to a lesser extent Tumble have all been just as lackluster at this point in the game. On February 17 2016 11:45 sicklucker wrote:
ya lets just lynch scott or shining. literally no one else should be up untill they participate There's a pretty good shot SL is scum here, he is playing the path of least resistance on the lynch today and the one scum read he seems to have he doesn't want to push. Neither Kush nor Scott have done much to warrant any townreads, but I also don't see much mafia motivation in their posts either. Kush is not as active as I've seen him in recent games, but that's not necessarily indicative of much. Been a long time since i played with Scott and his posts could come from either alignment. I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler +Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB.
##Vote: Sicklucker
This post...it's in the spoiler most people probably didn't read cause ppl are awesome that way ^^
eh nvm it's actually prob nothing lol @.@ he accepts my interpretation of sl's first posts...for some reason i thought there was more in there than there was
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Ok so like your Vig shot was kinda bad last game too Shining, but geez.
Yolo plays is such a bad reason for that shot 
GB's play is just WTF. Which I think means I need to ignore it... Though I'll note these WTF feelings in later reads.
I suggest we ignore anymore Blue stuff, and get back on track?
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On February 19 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote:On February 19 2016 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote:@shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-
I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^
O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him
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On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm caught up and pretty confused.
GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird. you! Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote:On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote:
ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing
in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper
Oh I'm not supposed to do that?
Seriously where did I do this? Does the fact that I'm not sure about your alignment yet still read your posts mean something to you?
+ Show Spoiler [Hint] +Like right now, you are pestering me to talk about something you care about - Townpoints
You insulate I'm stealing your reads or something somewhere, but refuse to backup where this happened - Scum points
Simply put you are confusing, but not as interesting as some of the scummers
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I agree tt. I thinking you're town now for reasons I'd rather not communicate (cause it would be hard to gather them)
But I agree ignoring the blue shit is probably the best course.
My take aways from the whole eon affair: Shining is confirmed town, shape probably town, and gbs shenanigans nai
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On February 19 2016 12:28 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote:On February 19 2016 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote:@shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-
I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^ O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him
nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible
noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3
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On February 19 2016 12:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:28 nooniansoong wrote:On February 19 2016 12:24 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote:On February 19 2016 12:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote:@shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-
I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^ O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3
lol fuck >< not sure how i confuse tumble with TL cool or whatever, lovely
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I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it.
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On February 19 2016 12:29 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:02 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm caught up and pretty confused.
GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you?
But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense...
Idk this is really weird. you! On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote:On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote:
ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing
in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper Oh I'm not supposed to do that? Seriously where did I do this? Does the fact that I'm not sure about your alignment yet still read your posts mean something to you? + Show Spoiler [Hint] +Like right now, you are pestering me to talk about something you care about - Townpoints
You insulate I'm stealing your reads or something somewhere, but refuse to backup where this happened - Scum points
Simply put you are confusing, but not as interesting as some of the scummers
>> at some point he'll realize this has already been adressed
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On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote:
I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it.
it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum!
more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself...
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On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote:
I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself...
ye, one-shot vig
if vig isn't ccing here they're an idiot lol >< so retarded scum it is
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K going to bed now gnight
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ye okay i'm talking to myself...i guess i have to actually do work now :/
bastards
hasta la bye-bye
+ Show Spoiler +also...secret GB read pending -bounces-
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On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote:
I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself... I guess you're right, if Shapelog is mafia, that was one really darn quick plan. So he's town. No scum vig, either. Meh, whatever.
Town
Shapelog
Breshke
The Shining
Town Lean
Tictock
Tumblewood
rsoultin
Mafia Lean
nooniansoong?
scott31337?
GlowingBear?
Does anyone have any criticisms or doubts about Breshke being town? I'd like to say he's town and never look back, is anyone concerned that this is premature? Also, it's pretty incredible that the POE list is so small already.... I guess that's what blue claims do for you.
Anyway, I believe Tictock had some questions for me regarding my Tumblewood read? I've said all that I have to say about it, I really do think that he is town because that is by far the simplest explanation, and anything else is pure paranoia. Oh, and Tictock, I feel that your vote is suspicious because "I wanted to lynch Palmar because if he is scum, Trfel is scum too" feels like a really horrible reason to me. I guess I can see it coming from town, but it feels so fabricated, and a bit unrefined. I guess I thought it was widely acknowledged that lynching for information is not good, which is largely what this reason came down to, and I struggle a bit to see this come from experienced town.
Back to my voting analysis, yay.
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On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote:
I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself...
no shining is definitely the real vigi here. I thought GB's claim was more believable at the time but wasnt aware of shinings situation.
Idk if GB claiming the shot on the wrong player is alignment indicative or not. The take a bullet play certainly isn't because we are 2 ML from losing but yeah.
Unless im wrong on my townreads on trefel or rsoul which im starting to get paranoid about the D1 votes really don't look that good for scott
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On February 19 2016 12:48 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote:
I read the last few pages.
I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it.
Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden?
Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself... no shining is definitely the real vigi here. I thought GB's claim was more believable at the time but wasnt aware of shinings situation. Idk if GB claiming the shot on the wrong player is alignment indicative or not. The take a bullet play certainly isn't because we are 2 ML from losing but yeah. Unless im wrong on my townreads on trefel or rsoul which im starting to get paranoid about the D1 votes really don't look that good for scott
lol ye agreed
like...GB will either do what a town GB would do at this point or he won't
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voting scott for info cause voting for info is bad and i sooooo want to be a baddie
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