• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:38
CEST 20:38
KST 03:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-67SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)11Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE17
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 2/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3599 users

Shin Megami Tensei: The Devil Inside Mafia - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12 13 14 Next All
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:33 GMT
#788
On February 18 2016 05:29 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.

Maybe just lynch him?

This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options.
I remember being willing to lynch him earlier. The reasons are in my filter.

Basically he has no drive to lynch mafia. He went from "I'm scumreading Breshke" to "placing my vote on GlowingBear for now" without explanation. And his Tumblewood read doesn't feel natural at all. He's very uninvested and dry.

The Shining's anger at being scumread felt a bit towny, maybe I'm misreading things, but I don't really think so? Damdred says that the best way to read The Shining is to look for his displays of emotion, and here those felt natural to me? I'll read his filter again, but I'd appreciate it if people would look at scott31337.


nh, i can look at scott again, but palmar?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:34 GMT
#791
On February 18 2016 05:32 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:31 Breshke wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 04:42 The Shining wrote:
On February 18 2016 04:41 Shapelog wrote:
Do I have to claim or can I wait till I post after my read list?


Don't claim minutes before deadline if you're a role.


actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-


how is that pro mafia?

Gives mafia information


^

and mostly it just shows a complete lack of interest in the lynch...someone is talking about claiming, he encourages it and poofs. if you take both shape and sl at face value, we had spread votes and a lynch between two pr's, so mafia not being invested makes sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:38 GMT
#800
On February 18 2016 05:34 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:33 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:29 Trfel wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.

Maybe just lynch him?

This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options.
I remember being willing to lynch him earlier. The reasons are in my filter.

Basically he has no drive to lynch mafia. He went from "I'm scumreading Breshke" to "placing my vote on GlowingBear for now" without explanation. And his Tumblewood read doesn't feel natural at all. He's very uninvested and dry.

The Shining's anger at being scumread felt a bit towny, maybe I'm misreading things, but I don't really think so? Damdred says that the best way to read The Shining is to look for his displays of emotion, and here those felt natural to me? I'll read his filter again, but I'd appreciate it if people would look at scott31337.


nh, i can look at scott again, but palmar?
I've looked at his filter and I only have one reason to think that he is mafia. The reason is that he had one very strong scum read, but then resorted to doing nothing and asking for people's cases, like he doesn't care about his earlier read. And as town, Palmar generally cares a whole lot about his early reads.

Which is a pretty good argument, but other than this, Palmar seems like clear town. I'm worried that I'm just missing something.


i know that i'm missing something

we have a palmar being stubborn as hell on breshke, but not pushing it just harping, then scumreading me for calling bresh town and backing down when i tell him to put up or shut up, essentially...he does try to get my reads, but then does nothing with that either

like i'm not sure what the "town" part of your read on him even is, truffle?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:44 GMT
#816
On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote:
I read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me
YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHT

Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him....

@rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing.


o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him

@bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:45 GMT
#823
tempted to switch to scott just to see if my "when scott townreads me he's scum" read is gold or not >>
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:47 GMT
#829
On February 18 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote:
I read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me
YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHT

Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him....

@rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing.


o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him

@bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense
Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory.

I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia?


specifically that level? dunnae...he just fooled me his last scum game though where i thought he seemed pretty town for the not give a fucks
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:50 GMT
#838
i'm not sure if this votecount says we're like never hitting scum today or scum is just ridic disorganized @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:51 GMT
#846
On February 18 2016 05:50 The Shining wrote:
No one's down for a Tumblenanny?


nope

also not sure wtf you decide to park your vote on a non-existent wagon and bugger off if you actually want to place a useful vote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:54 GMT
#854
On February 18 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:39 Breshke wrote:
I read scotts filter and don't understand why he is voting GB and not me
YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHT

Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him....

@rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing.


o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him

@bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense
Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory.

I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia?


specifically that level? dunnae...he just fooled me his last scum game though where i thought he seemed pretty town for the not give a fucks
If you're talking about Outlaw, which I assume you are, then I read him as mafia in that game

His trolling wasn't on the same level as the "interview" joke, or the three Palmars talking to each other. And his reads were more of a "standard" approach, aka giving reasons and then making reads based on those reasons.

Again, the way he dropped his Breshke read makes no sense, but at the same time I don't feel very confident at all in lynching him, I'd still say he's more likely town. Given how this is gone I just want to cut losses, and scott31337 is a good lynch.


nh :/

fine lol yolo...but i blame you if palmar turns out to be scum. you'll like...have to grovel at me and idk play a game with lex and myself later THE HORROR!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:57 GMT
#866
On February 18 2016 05:56 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:51 Breshke wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:50 The Shining wrote:
No one's down for a Tumblenanny?


Yes but not enough time to discuss it. Didn't like his posts towards trefel
Why are you not in favor of a scott lynch?


I've flipped him as town for low activity too many d1s to feel good about this


-flings shoes at-

answer me...if you really wanted to make your vote count why the fuck did you vote a non-existent wagon and then say you were going to bugger off?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:57 GMT
#868
On February 18 2016 05:57 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul swap to scott.

Seriously look at the resons for lynching scott and the reasons for lynching palmar. They are both weak as shit but noone is interested in the scott wagon but me and trefel who if i remember right are your two biggest townreads


already did lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:58 GMT
#875
On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT


VOTE KUSH


VOTE SCOTT IF YOU THINK PALMAR IS TOWN YOU MORON
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 20:59 GMT
#880
On February 18 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote:
tumblewood vote im out...


...wtf -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:05 GMT
#889
so >> guess the prize to reading palmar has to go to trfel
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:06 GMT
#892
On February 18 2016 06:04 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, do you believe my Palmar read now?


-slinks off into dunce corner-

lol >< honestly i'm still not sure where the "troll" line is, but i do believe that your read on him is better than mine, fwiw
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:07 GMT
#893
more to the point, why does gb townread palmar and vote noon there?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:10 GMT
#900
On February 18 2016 06:07 Eden1892 wrote:
Oops.

My bad reason, should anybody care, is that I'm used to Palmar caring out his early strong scum reads, and actively pushing them in the thread.

There were obviously reasons to think this didn't per se mean anything this time, but it seemed good enough to consolidate under.


nah i think that's where a lot of us were at? bueno, i'm gonna take a break...will prob review the thread tonight or first thing tomorrow morning, cause class all day @.@ joy
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:11 GMT
#902
On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote:
ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing

in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_-


^ i still need you to answer this TT
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:16 GMT
#913
On February 18 2016 06:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 06:07 rsoultin wrote:
more to the point, why does gb townread palmar and vote noon there?


I didn't townread Palmar, I was ok with the Palmar lynch but I preferred kush's lynch way better. Suddenly everyone piled on Palmar and it felt it was Mafia driven at that moment.


i'm not sure how you can reconcile "mafia driven" with "not town"
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2016 21:18 GMT
#916
On February 18 2016 05:48 The Shining wrote:
Actually Palmar isn't bad either, he's done nothing towny and he could just be getting a pass because he posted direct stuff and fuxkwd off after


???
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 624
LamboSC2 184
BRAT_OK 57
CosmosSc2 35
RushiSC 26
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17523
Dewaltoss 155
ggaemo 126
JYJ 119
Hyun 43
HiyA 35
Rock 22
sSak 20
zelot 18
Bale 7
Dota 2
Gorgc26131
qojqva1727
420jenkins282
Counter-Strike
fl0m1848
byalli1074
x6flipin397
olofmeister270
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu383
Other Games
Grubby2505
FrodaN1787
B2W.Neo579
elazer266
C9.Mang0221
ArmadaUGS122
ToD108
uThermal105
XaKoH 95
UpATreeSC68
Trikslyr48
JuggernautJason5
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV642
Other Games
• imaqtpie794
• Shiphtur367
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 22m
The PondCast
15h 22m
OSC
15h 22m
INu's Battles
16h 22m
Percival vs Cure
Classic vs Clem
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Escore
1d 15h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 16h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
The Patches Monday
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-04
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.