EPTim fairly very sure trefel and rsoul are town even if scott is town
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
im fairly very sure trefel and rsoul are town even if scott is town | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Palmar (4): scott31337 (4): GlowingBear(2): Breshke(1): Palmar Tumblewood (1): The Shining, nooniansoong (1): GlowinBear Trfel (0): Eden1892 (0): Sicklucker(0): The Shining (0): Shapelog (0): Not sure what to make of that neck and neck vote with scott, and tbh this is a terrible last vote to try to use VCA on. With the leading wagon only being 4 people it's pretty unlikely that all the mafia were there, and it's far more likely that they were spread all over. GB and Shining both trying to start shenannigans makes them more likely to be town kus mafia would prob be much happier to just pile onto the mislynch on Palmar. It's really hard for me to draw any conclusions about scott though. Like there was several pretty last min votes on Palmar, but I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure Eden is as well so that would only leave Tumble as possible scum trying to save his buddy. Idk the votes were all over the place, which might actually mean it was a town v town. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:18 Trfel wrote: Given that 11 players were voted for across the day, this statement is by definition correct  Oh wait, you mean the wagon. I mean, mafia does have incentive to lynch Palmar, because Palmar is a pretty good player, but assumptions like this don't serve much purpose IMO. I don't like Tictock's vote on Palmar though, I'm not convinced that he actually cared between Palmar and scott31337. Since he was strongly townreading me earlier, and his reason for lynching Palmar was that I would be mafia by association, this seems suspect to me. I mean we should look into TT and Tumbledore's votes. Mine is well know and Eden reasoning is ok for me atm. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote: Ok so this should be the final vote count. Not sure what to make of that neck and neck vote with scott, and tbh this is a terrible last vote to try to use VCA on. With the leading wagon only being 4 people it's pretty unlikely that all the mafia were there, and it's far more likely that they were spread all over. GB and Shining both trying to start shenannigans makes them more likely to be town kus mafia would prob be much happier to just pile onto the mislynch on Palmar. It's really hard for me to draw any conclusions about scott though. Like there was several pretty last min votes on Palmar, but I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure Eden is as well so that would only leave Tumble as possible scum trying to save his buddy. Idk the votes were all over the place, which might actually mean it was a town v town. do you think scott is scum then? Cos if scott is town then wouldnt mafia not care who they voted and just vote wherever | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Mafia didn't care so much about the lynch, but secretly, they probably wanted Palmar lynched, because he's a player they'd probably have to night kill in the near-ish future. So mafia is probably in players who weren't directly influencing the lynch, and/or players who were not obstructing to lightly supporting the Palmar lynch. Checking read development for these things should be telling. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:14 sicklucker wrote: so instead of being the hammer and deciding the lynch all by yourself you decide to start a 6th wagon on kush with 0% chance of it happening. Ya ok bud you guys gotta get better at playing deadlines 0% chance? He almost got lynched, SL. What are you talking about? | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:24 Trfel wrote: Mafia didn't care so much about the lynch, but secretly, they probably wanted Palmar lynched, because he's a player they'd probably have to night kill in the near-ish future. People respect Palmar way too much.. GB can I help you with anything? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
And then my stronger read Tumble voted him. And GB made a point about how votes piled on Palmar. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:25 GlowingBear wrote: 0% chance? He almost got lynched, SL. What are you talking about? dude you were the only one on me | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote: @rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum). The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote: EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read. On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar So he scum leans Palmar, puts him in the bad lynch pile, then calls him a reasonable lynch. And then ends up votes for him. SO the real question is....Why did Tumble vote Palmar (with a passion) when he put palmar in the bad lynch list? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Anyway, SL, as I said, I wasn't going to lynch scott on day1 and I really didn't hammer him because I thought I could genuinely lynch Kush. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:12 Trfel wrote: Eden, why didn't you share your reason or make any posts between this post and after the deadline? I mean you see that :57 right? My phone actually registered 2:59 when I switched vote. I thought that post might not beat the deadline... I thought it better to be certain I announced my switch pre-deadline instead of trying to explain and missing | ||
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nooniansoong
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:27 The Shining wrote: And then my stronger read Tumble voted him. And GB made a point about how votes piled on Palmar. only you voted for tumble long before tumble voted for palmar lol >< bs meter alert both of these things happened AFTER your vote on tumble | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
The three blind mice was to join him but got lost on the way......Totally the Mices fault. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler [Tumble's Read progession] + On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote: @rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum). The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote: EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read. On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar So he scum leans Palmar, puts him in the bad lynch pile, then calls him a reasonable lynch. And then ends up votes for him. SO the real question is....Why did Tumble vote Palmar (with a passion) when he put palmar in the bad lynch list? a good question -_- | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:29 Eden1892 wrote: My bad, I screwed up my timestamps and thought you switched your vote like 10+ minutes before the deadline ><I mean you see that :57 right? My phone actually registered 2:59 when I switched vote. I thought that post might not beat the deadline... I thought it better to be certain I announced my switch pre-deadline instead of trying to explain and missing You're fine then, I guess. I really don't know about Tumblewood, the post length thing is just so strong. Anyway, Breshke and rsoultin are town. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On February 18 2016 06:27 nooniansoong wrote: People respect Palmar way too much.. GB can I help you with anything? You actually can't, Kush. You've voted me for a policy lynch that doesn't make sense IMO ("I'm killing GB because GB is unreadable") and you could say that because of my early inactivity, but when I came back you decided you should lynch me anyways because my reason to scum read SL was bullshit (you failed to explain why that was bullshit). You don't think that what you're doing is suspicious? Not giving a single read at all and deciding to vote people using the excuse of a policy lynch, then when asked about people you think could be Mafia you bring a list of people you're suspicious but can't say why they are suspicious? You really can't see why I think you're mafia? | ||
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