EPTthat would make me randomly proud and sad at the same time lol ><
like either this game is really super fucking easy and we're all over-analyzing everything and wifoming our way into stupid, or noon and/or truffle are playing kick-ass scum games
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that would make me randomly proud and sad at the same time lol >< like either this game is really super fucking easy and we're all over-analyzing everything and wifoming our way into stupid, or noon and/or truffle are playing kick-ass scum games | ||
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that comes from looking through his scum game to see if he had static reads or not? <- need clarification lol >< tbf tt's scumread on you makes a fair amount of sense tch the problem with tumble being scum is then i'm living in a world where scum is bussing each other to oblivion OR i'm misreading truffle >< fuck sidenote: tt pushing tumble is totally what he has to do if he's scum, though ^^ | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:49 Trfel wrote: I'm not scum  I'm currently thinking that it's Tictock and then one of Breshke/nooniansoong, I guess. Heavily leaning towards Breshke over nooniansoong, but I haven't closely looks at either of them. I could just be completely missing the mark, though, help? well, frankly, i think we just need to read breshke's filter and decide once and for all if he's scum or not lol >< we kinda have to assume that he may not come back and we'll be playing with an inactive ??? next day phase, too, regardless of how this one goes (and i have to say that i completely understand why noon's getting freaked out that you won't read a filter that short, even if you are busy) | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:52 Trfel wrote: So why is it not Tictock/Breshke? They're not bussing each other? Am I misreading? tt/bresh is what my gut tells me? i'm trying to be open to the idea that i could be wrong on someone cause that kinda feels too easy and i know it's partially based on PoE/assumptions that there is no needless scum bussing | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:54 Trfel wrote: Okay, so my paranoia check on Tumblewood showed that Tumblewood's scumread on Breshke is primarily based on Breshke's lack of activity lately. Which is something that has been discussed in the time of Tumblewood's read change. It makes sense, even if it doesn't feel quite right to me? Meh. Not going to worry about it for now. the real question is does anyone see a scumteam without breshke in it? lol >< that and i suppose we can discuss a no-lynch i'm not in favor for: - personal reasons...won't be able to be active after the weekend (<-may not be relevant) - it doesn't give us another mislynch - 3v2 mylo means literally every town has to be voting scum i mean, if y'all want to anyway, go ahead lol >< i prob won't actually be alive by the time school starts kicking my butt again, assuming the game is even still going ^^ | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:59 Trfel wrote: I mean, Palmar said that Breshke is mafia. If we don't lynch Breshke and he wins, Palmar gets to taunt us forever. Is that really what we want? Seriously though, Breshke's filter may "only" be six pages, but that takes a while to go through I'll see how far I get.Anyway, I guess you don't like my non-association, independent reasons for Tictock being mafia? nh, my problem with tictock is the scattered filter, and it's an overall sense of things rather than anything particular, though i could find examples if you wanted like...i understood your case to be basically that you didn't feel he really pushed hard for the tumble lynch when he was townreading scott? | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:03 Trfel wrote: I mean, you know I've been commenting about Breshke's questions not being as meaningful or having as much direction as I would have expected, and no one's cared about it (ironically, no one but Breshke)? The only question is, is it important I kinda think that the "how insightful are his questions" read on Breshke isn't very good after all. But I'm not sure what to use instead. How much does Breshke push things when he's town? How involved is he with the lynch?lol >< well i think the fact that deadline is before any normal human being in australia in their right mind would be up might have some bearing on his lack of "presence" though generally insightfulness is how i read bresh >> i can't say that i'm always right, though, given noir @.@ insightfulness is kinda subjective like i feel in the beginning he was more like that, but even later during d1 that started falling off while he was still actively posting, and that's what made me reconsider | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:06 Trfel wrote: I don't have a case, it's more of a conclusion reached from continued discussion. The biggest reason I think he is mafia is because his involvement has fit mafia motivations. When all that's needed is activity, he's here and commenting, but not pushing. When he's needed to push things, he's pushing. When he's not, he's sidelines. All from a mafia perspective, not a town perspective. Most things I've brought up are just small examples of this at different times. tch this gets into narrative territory :/ i'm assuming you at least tried to consider it from both sides when you went through his filter? you and i make reads very differently lol >< for instance, i see you commenting on his pushing tumble during the scott lynch and how he didn't really push it and honestly i can see town sticking to his guns there but being demotivated when people basically haven't listened to him for a week? so i'm not really sure how strong that actually is what's the scum motivation for townreading scott there and not really pushing tumble, assuming tumble is town as you say? why not just go with the flow? | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:18 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, I meant to ask you about Breshke. When he's town, does he say "I could be willing to lynch this guy because he's bad/useless/unreadable/whatever"? I remember him saying this as mafia, but I don't feel like Breshke as town is the kind of player to do this? i don't know? lol >< i don't remember him doing it, but i can honestly say that it's the sort of thing that i wouldn't remember anyway | ||
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as for the tt thing, the way he's handling today i've already pointed out is exactly what a scum tt has to do here lol >< right down to the opening the door on breshke bit i just don't really see your particular point...i'm assuming it's more an overall thing that i'm missing, though, cause the specific example alone is pretty meh | ||
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lol >< you know why i have trouble with this game? in tropical i dropped my vote on town when we were lynching scum and didn't really push it precisely because i knew what it would look like when whatsisface flipped scum, and stupid lex went in there and got the shenannies rolling on him ruining my dastardly plans >< but at the same time i really don't know if breshke is capable of the same. like, when i play mafia i don't really care that much what i look like cause i know i have a fair chance of talking myself out of lynches and playing against wincon often gets people wifoming you town :/ so you ask me and i go "well, i..." then "well, bresh isn't me..." i think i'd prefer to not go into the wifom of would he or wouldn't he and instead just focus on what he actually did/didn't do, personally and i'm rambling now cause it's late and they just ushered us all out to stand in the cold cause some idiot tried to smoke in here again ^^ | ||
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what i'm trying to say is i'd rather focus on why players did what they did rather than would they or wouldn't they as scum, because not only do we not have the whole picture, but both alignments are usually capable of anything in a vacuum | ||
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i've got a meeting tomorrow so i'll be gone until maybe...90 mins? 2 hours if i'm lucky? before EoD i think i'm gonna drop my vote on no-lynch actually just in case so y'all aren't forced to lynch if that's what y'all want to do. i can't imagine i'll miss deadline lol >< but yeah | ||
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the tinfoil's great and all and i'll indulge it if i have the time :/ but really this probably is just as simple as it seems | ||
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not the least of which because it would be going the exact same way if tt/bresh are the scum team :/ -twitches- anyone here? | ||
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On February 27 2016 06:33 nooniansoong wrote: IM NOT BEING LAZY IM BUSY. STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. -me pretending to be trfel lol >< -kicks- evil one leaving me here to sweat by myself :/ | ||
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tumble: least active EoD (complaint) <- wasn't here noon: breshke afk (excuse) <- also wasn't here -twitches- at least truffle was open about having to leave -throws shoes at everyone- nooooon On February 26 2016 21:55 nooniansoong wrote: Today I'm going to look at tumble more. On the one hand bresh is afk and somewhat of a wild card, on the other hand nothing in his filter looks town. He's got mechanics discussion which is nai. And his one case on shape doesn't make sense. ^ whatever happened to this? | ||
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