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Wow this game has grown to epic proportions.
/in
My only condition: I refuse to tryhard this game.
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On December 27 2015 08:38 ritoky wrote:
yo koshi, if vivax doesn't have more than 7 posts in the first 30 hours you wanna lynch him with me?
Can I get the towncred I was never able to cash in on for lynching him last game if I help?
I don't care what he flips, just give me them town creds and nobody needs to get hurt.
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On December 27 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm mafia!
Lynch me
##Vote: GlowingBear
Is nobody gunna discuss this obvious legit very real claim and self vote?
Personally, I could try and get GB killed for 3 games in a row.
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End of first Hour Report Rhyme:
People was here, some merry-ment was had
we made a few reads, and shared a few laughs
but now I shall go, for my grammer is bad
also like Trfel, I like the sound of hot steamy baths
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Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything.
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On December 27 2015 11:37 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:35 Tictock wrote:
Caught up with the game, but I'm prob not hanging around.
Could get behind lynching Ness or noonian atm. Exo seems ok despite his open.
No real strong town feels from anyone yet, maybe a little from Koshi
I kinda like GB's posts thus far, I prob won't hammer him today. Tone feels different from past couple games, though... not sure it means anything. this. why lynch me or noonian?
You kus you posted a bunch of questions to everyone but haven't really used peoples responses to further reads. Also these: On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote:And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad. He could be mafia, ![[image loading]](https://media0.giphy.com/media/k9XrZaAJuQyMU/200_s.gif)
On December 27 2015 11:22 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 11:14 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
 first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". ^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username. But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.) I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm. Much more important than who is town Who is Mafia? Choose one person with not much to go off of?
Sicklucker, just because.
That or whoever seems scummiest rn i don't care enough to do anything
On December 27 2015 11:24 N e s s wrote:
*as to why sicklucker
his posts are annoying me. he's giving me a gut feeling of him being scum.
Butttt Ness! Isn't Glowbunny scummier?
Gb seems good. He was going after me, which seems alright. While others did too i don't think he's mafia atm.
Noonian mostly kus of the smurf thing.
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On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.
Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it
Seems legit
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On December 27 2015 13:23 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 13:22 Tictock wrote:On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta. its bad to go off of meta. It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion. Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart. What if he's changed his play style? But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on. Well here is where we disagree.. And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means. But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do. Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town. Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point? TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething). Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think. Sure you have basically the same read as me on Kush but I'm scum for it Seems legit and your read on kush is: he's a smurf which he literally explained pre-game when he said "this is a smurf, cuz i can't view kush account at work"
...like wat?
Ah, I didn't see that
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On December 27 2015 13:25 Holyflare wrote:TickTock I suggest that you catch up and post some fleshed out reads rather than arguing semantics, it'll help expedite things nicely You can also vote for Vivax or explain why you aren't for free bonus points. Which everyone else should be doing too.
No thanks.
Might vote Vivax though, we'll see.
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Got some food poisoning or someshit this morning so been kinda out of it today.
Will be catching up and whatnot as I can at work.
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Still way behind, on pg 37 now.
I'm fairly certain rayn is town based on his exchange with art over his GB read, also the fact that he checked Ness's othergames.
SL is giving me townvibes, not super strong though.
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On December 27 2015 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:18 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
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Let me ask you something
What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?
Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to? It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from Food for thought~ Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is? I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum. Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum? It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment. mmmm on the contrary that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you. Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game. please answer my question now. You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe I find you being town hard to believe. Nobody's even told me why we were band wagoning Moose jesus christ. *sighs* Us arguing won't contribute to anything anyway, i'm done with you for now. I have bigger fish to fry then you, my friend c: You said I was town for the way I was pushing you. What changed? I am actually retracting from my townread on Ness. This is one thing. The other thing is he calls sicklucker mafia for "just because". Then he votes for Vivax?!?!?!? Than he says this... Bigger fish to fry? Like.... sicklucker who he has basically no read on and just calls scum? Or Vivax, who is basically a non-poster at that point?
Pfft rayn I pointed that out forever ago,
and btw yes I still do think Ness is scum
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On December 27 2015 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ness is town because he asked this "can you see whos viewing thread" basicly hes asking if people can see if hes lurking or if he can see lurkers.
If hes mafia and he is worried about people seeing him lurk he would ask his mafia qt so this is not possible.
This only leaves the other option that he legitly wants to see if people are lurking.
I think this statement alone makes him town and alot of other people have reasons to think hes town so im sure he is.
The only other option is an intentional dumbtell which is very rare. I dont think a mafia would ask this ever due to being afraid of suspicion
My only issue with this thinking is that it could just be a very legit, NAI, question he asked there and you are way overthinking it.
I will admit that the nature of the question is more town indicative, but this wont really change my opinion by itself.
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On December 28 2015 00:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I read it and I don't think his filter is as bad as tictock's.
I like my vote where it is atm.
Ouch.
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On December 28 2015 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD We're not going to save people based on the fact that you can read them several days from now.
I like Obi a little this game...
I guess.
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On December 28 2015 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
can we not lynch him off the fact that last game we lynched him and were wrong?
You know we should learn from history and such. He could be mafia or town but I would like to have some general idea what that is before we put one of are valuable lynches on the line
If you guys want a "real" reason why I dont want vivax lynch its because it was fucking hf's idea who I think is very likely scum
I'm sure this got brought up, but SL you missed Vivax last game as barely present mafia.
He's also not as enthusiastic as he was in the town game you are referencing here.
Somewhere in-between I'd say.
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On December 28 2015 00:17 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 28 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 28 2015 00:08 sicklucker wrote:On December 28 2015 00:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker do you have any real reason to not lynch Vivax? Ill know his alignment 99% of the time by day 3. Here if we lynch him its a stupid gamble. Like hes just such a godamn easy read and people keep lynching him and its pissing me off. Literraly my last game I said lets not lynch fucking vivax day one and then town went and did it. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN ITS VERY BAD SOOOO BAD I think i can read Vivax aswell. Why is he town then? you really think Vivax is a better lynch candidate than somebody like BF at this point? From the people who have posted, yes. I have to disagree. I get that I might not be able to make the same metareads as others here, but is Vivax really THAT scummy to this point? Everything that makes Vivax scummy (low post count, not contributing a lot) BF is worse at. At least Vivax is somewhat active in the thread. People posting = more information. People like BF not posting do not add any information at all.
Exo's a cool dude.
Def keep him alive.
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On December 28 2015 00:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've caught up.
I think Rayn is town. I think Exo is town. I think sicklucker might be town.
I'm not sure on Ness. I have plenty of suspicions on him but I think that thing Sicklucker said about asking questions in the QT actually makes sense. I have to decide whether it is fakeable or not.
I'm also not sure on Ritoky, I've been reevaluating and I believe I may have been nitpicking him for that particular post, which brings him back null
Artanis looks scummy, I hated his list post. Tictock looks scummy for his lack of pushes + his joke on hammering me and going after me felt pretty off.
Too soon?
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On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT.
Yep.
Same as every other game.
Damdred said what 20 games it took him? Sounds about right...
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