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On December 27 2015 11:05 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.
I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.
I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.
Why are you blowing your smurf? Because I'm scum and it makes an easier scumgame for me. Is that what you are hinting at?
No, I'm asking why.
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On December 27 2015 11:07 nooniansoong wrote:
@exo don't get mad. Just try to find scum and answer any questions people ask you.
If we lynch you and you're town, that's our problem not yours.
To an extent sure. But I don't win and I'm dead. And I want to win. not to mention if I don't even defend myself what good am I to town?
I'm going to go eat dinner and have a rum&coke. be back in a bit
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On December 27 2015 10:50 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:51 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:On December 27 2015 08:32 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:29 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:26 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:21 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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Why do you think this makes him mafia? It doesn't unless he can't explain what he expects from questions like these Yes, glowing bear you haven't played any games with me before, so i'm just going to assume you're town right now. But you jumping to me as mafia for asking questions...? Tell me, why do you think i'm mafia in a logical manner. cuz you asked useless personal questions most of which can be answered by looking @ the DB that don't lead to mafia in any obvious way. tho town GB mostly just calls you dumb or worthless there instead of mafia, so GB might be mafia; juzzayin. Mafia experience? Thats not a personal question. It shows how experienced someone is. Thats why i asked it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-databaseyou can look up everyone's names! see how many games on these forums they have played, get the results of those games, and even view their filters for said games. it answers almost all of your questions. I'm new to team liquid, so i guess my questions strategie doesn't work here. But i didn't know that, but what i meant was mafia experience as a whole. Not just their TL mafia, but on other forums as well. I know for an absolute fact there has to some veteran mafia players in here. I guess my forums can't exactly help with that, i'll look up names later. but in the mean time, who do you guys think is town aligned? this is a dumb angle since we all know each other and dont. Here is a smart angle, what is your mafia experience? You didn't even read the questions post, hun <3 10 games c: but that sudden attack on me? Its interesting, for numerous reasons. how in gods name can that be interpreted as an "attack"
#YouCalledMeDumb
And goodness gracious you annoy me.
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*ebwop: don't win if I'm dead
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On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
town: artanis, ness
pocketing me: slam, rsoul
mafia lean: gb, trfel
On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote:
slam,
HOW WAS I HERE NOT HERE LOL
Artanis this is all your fault
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On December 27 2015 11:06 sicklucker wrote:
vivax is such a bad day 1 wagon. im usually 99% sure of his alignment on day 2 or 3. such a garbage day 1 lynch and whoever does it is against town winning
Explain to me how his meta can only be defined in day2 or 3.
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On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/6e42219a5876ee6211266625f19c3353.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
 first one is correct
Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.
The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.
The situation would go as follows:
As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".
Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.
Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
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And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad.
He could be mafia,
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On December 27 2015 11:09 N e s s wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:50 sicklucker wrote:On December 27 2015 08:51 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:On December 27 2015 08:32 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:29 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:26 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:On December 27 2015 08:21 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:20 GlowingBear wrote:
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It doesn't unless he can't explain what he expects from questions like these
Yes, glowing bear you haven't played any games with me before, so i'm just going to assume you're town right now. But you jumping to me as mafia for asking questions...? Tell me, why do you think i'm mafia in a logical manner. cuz you asked useless personal questions most of which can be answered by looking @ the DB that don't lead to mafia in any obvious way. tho town GB mostly just calls you dumb or worthless there instead of mafia, so GB might be mafia; juzzayin. Mafia experience? Thats not a personal question. It shows how experienced someone is. Thats why i asked it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-databaseyou can look up everyone's names! see how many games on these forums they have played, get the results of those games, and even view their filters for said games. it answers almost all of your questions. I'm new to team liquid, so i guess my questions strategie doesn't work here. But i didn't know that, but what i meant was mafia experience as a whole. Not just their TL mafia, but on other forums as well. I know for an absolute fact there has to some veteran mafia players in here. I guess my forums can't exactly help with that, i'll look up names later. but in the mean time, who do you guys think is town aligned? this is a dumb angle since we all know each other and dont. Here is a smart angle, what is your mafia experience? You didn't even read the questions post, hun <3 10 games c: but that sudden attack on me? Its interesting, for numerous reasons. how in gods name can that be interpreted as an "attack" #YouCalledMeDumb And goodness gracious you annoy me.
Welcome to the club
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On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
!!!
That one was really hard.
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Not voting HF will be such a pain in the ass. Auto vote D4 though.
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On December 27 2015 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.
I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.
I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.
Why are you blowing your smurf?
wait a minute... you guys do remember the sicklucker rule right?
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On December 27 2015 11:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". !!! That one was really hard.
I wish I had Holyflare's intelligence
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Also hes kush and a great policy lynch
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On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".
^^your long posts remind me a bit of someone i play with
Town reads-HolyFlare, Aramis or whoever you say his username.
But Ness! Shouldn't there be more town reads?
To be blunt, i'm lazy. I'm diabetic and i'm at 340 (which is bad.)
I'll go back and do more later, thats just the majority of whom i think is town atm.
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On December 27 2015 11:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.
In your picture it would be:
Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"
2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?
Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.
first one is correct Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else. The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate. The situation would go as follows: As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White". Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat. Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black". !!! That one was really hard.
I had a similar puzzle in a Phoenix Wright/Professor Layton game but this one was a bit harder I admit.
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On December 27 2015 11:14 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 10:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm a kush smurf.
This game I am going to try hard to work on read accuracy.
I just did a quick read through. Exo gave me mafia feels in his few posts, but that doesn't mean much.
I liked hf's first post. Then ness said he needed to write a lot in defense. Ness, I urge you to write as little as possible while still honestly addressing hf's concerns.
Why are you blowing your smurf? wait a minute... you guys do remember the sicklucker rule right?
Wait until he answers
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hf mafia tell#2 discredit the guy who suggests hes mafia
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On December 27 2015 11:11 N e s s wrote:And i'm not going to write Exo off as scum myself. Sure, people are throwing scum! at him, but to me he reminds me alot of how i played in mafia. Getting accused then getting mad. He could be mafia,
Yeah go for it. If you want to hurt town just lynch me b/c I'm tired of being accused of scum on nothing during day 1. I'm going to try my best to help town win but I'm not even going to be given the time of day.
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On December 27 2015 09:18 Damdred wrote:
Your right guys I'm 100% wrong. I'm sorry I'll be back later
No youre not wrong.
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