EPTOn January 06 2016 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
ew fidei stop that
you're scum for no good reasons, remember?
ew fidei stop that
you're scum for no good reasons, remember?
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On January 06 2016 10:08 NocturneMage wrote: Alright, that second point is bad. Wow. I just don't understand this pov. GB said that he thought there was something to be gained by looking at Irish's scum reads. GB then accurately recited Irish's scum reads. Mderg then basically said that GB had done so in a misleading way. But mderg didn't follow up that point by saying "oh yeah you actually can tell something from the other reads Irish had". It isn't like he was trying to make a nuanced argument based on that point, he just shit on GB fullstop. And even if he had, it doesn't matter anyway because GB wasn't purporting to talk about all of Irish's reads in the first place. To me, that is mderg trying to scum GB for bad reasons, at best. And that is following on from his GB read which honestly has made no sense to me the entire game. | ||
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On January 06 2016 10:16 NocturneMage wrote: And third point is also really bad (out of context) because he stated that he couldn't be back before deadline. So that is actually not alignment indicative. So you can definitely make the argument once you read in for context, that Fidei is taking something that isn't alignment indicative and making it so. Fourth point is subjective but we already have half the case shot so... The third point isn't about him parking his vote on GB, it's about the fact that ALL the cases he has posted have actually just been reposts of what other people have said, or re-packagings thereof. If we're going to talk about people misrepresenting stuff NM, perhaps you should look in a fucking mirror. | ||
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On January 06 2016 17:16 GiygaS wrote: Like I'm right that fdei's post could easily be from a town if GB is town right? Chainsaw is only a scumtell if the person they are defending is scum. But then who's scum? I have solid town reads on noon, kmatt and nm. Which means I'm wrong about one of those people or the scum team is 3 of GB, fdei, ff and mderg. Makes a lot more sense for the first 3 to be a scum team than the last one to be on a team with GB and fdei after fdei's post. I agree, I don't think GB and mderg can possibly be on a scum team. | ||
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On January 06 2016 21:21 nooniansoong wrote: And fidei he wasn't just looking at irishs scum reads. He was using that as the basis for his scumread of Gigas. Yeah, I agree that it was NK WIFOM and probably wasn't that helpful. But it's something that townies do all the time and it didn't seem out of place. If that had been mderg's point then I'd have been fine with it. If mderg had tried to work with GB to get the full picture on Irish's reads then that's fine too. But he went straight to scumming GB. That's the part I have a serious issue with. | ||
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On January 06 2016 21:20 nooniansoong wrote: Irish said he had to re-read and reasses therefore his scum reads were going to change This is a very fair point (and a townie point to make as well), but it's not the point mderg made. | ||
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On January 06 2016 22:13 nooniansoong wrote: Here's mderg's post in question. Fidei, you are ignoring the first part: And focusing on the second part: You are nitpicking this part which can be true or not depending on how you interpret it. But really the important part is the first part which you seem to be ignoring. Hmm. I can see your point, but Let me go back to the series of posts again. I think you might be reading too much into that first point. You're right, it could be mderg implying that there are all these issues with the read that you and I came up with now. But at the same time, it could in my view just as easily be a throwaway comment with no deeper thought behind it. | ||
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On January 03 2016 01:04 mderg wrote: What you're doing is basically taking a look at a list with his reads and taking the one that's most convenient for you. Phone posting so can't consolidate, but this is his second post. Will post third in one sec. | ||
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On January 03 2016 01:09 mderg wrote: I'm not saying he missed any reads. He simply picked one out and decides to vote that one. Without giving it any further thought (aside from "kush is probably town") Third post. Kush, I read your point as being "mderg was implying that there were a number of problems with the way that GB used Irish's reads." That is a possible interpretation of the 'first' section you flagged. But I think the more likely interpretation is that it's just a throwaway line designed to try and undermine GB, with no particular underlying rationale beyond "you didn't give all the reads". If mderg had thought of the deeper points, I don't see why he wouldn't have made them then. And that makes me thinks it's an attempt to fabricate a scum read, rather than a townie attempt to gain information. And this is all the more important because it's when mderg starts voting GB. | ||
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 Also kind of surprised my two top scum reads (mderg and Gigya) are the only ones in thread. | ||
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On January 07 2016 07:12 The Shining wrote: LoL yeah I didn't know I was rbd n1 since no one was checked. That was a really good call, though, but Damn. The insta-replacement shot Lmao. Fid would've been my next lynch if I survived the night with a green check on GB. That probably would've given me NM. Kmatt did good at not being necessarily associated to his team. Im still really sad I never get to play blue, replace into it and get shot. Lmao it wasn't even for anything I did xD We shot you because you are a good player  It's a compliment | ||
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On January 07 2016 07:19 DoYouHas wrote: NM, I really loved watching your play and mentality grow during this game. You went from uncomfortable and panicked, questioning everything to awesome and panicked, leading your team. Glad I was a catalyst for that (though a little afraid of you now TBH). Kmatt, awesome first game, you did everything scum needs to, you gave the town nothing, hurt their efforts of scumhunting, and didn't die. Plenty of rough edges to polish up, but the foundation is solid. Also *Handshake*, your play worked beautifully. While I still think you are a lucky bastard for that play to even make sense, it is darn impressive that you saw it as an option and had the gumption to pursue it. Fid, I know you are very uncomfortable playing as scum. You also did everything you needed to. You provided the counterpoint to the other scum's efforts and divided the town beautifully. - So proud. *tear* *hugs* "Kmatt, you were amazing. NM you were magnificent. Fidei you were ... there." Kappa | ||
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