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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 20:38 GMT
#186
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices


This makes me want to actually lynch you
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 20:58 GMT
#205
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.

Von-guy, what do you think of Moosy here?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 21:11 GMT
#207
On October 18 2015 06:06 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Moos is pretty obvious scum and I don't see any logical point in you trying to joke with him unless you are trying to cover for some form of slip of the tongue.



Let me rephrase it:

If scum wants to survive, why would he act in such suicidal way?

Also, I was joking, I'm not trying to cover anyone. Why do you think this? Why a townie wouldn't joke about it?

It's simple: any mafia claim is a joke. No mafia would claim mafia and a town can't possibly claim mafia unless it's jokingly. So his post was not alignmrnt indicative
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 21:16 GMT
#215
On October 18 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here.


Hi! Are you happy to be here?

Actually no since I rolled VT just like I did in all of my last games ffs and I have moosy and gb spam up the thread although I said pregame that I'm on a limited schedule. actually no, I#m not happy.


I'm not spamming, I'm being productive.

Moosy is spamming.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 21:18 GMT
#216
On October 18 2015 06:15 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.


I'm not saying mafia wouldn't do it. I'm saying any alignment could do it. Which makes groundless any scum read based on this
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 21:22 GMT
#219
I see no problem in boxers post
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#221
On October 18 2015 06:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I see no problem in boxers post

Really? Read it again. He could have just answered that he was annoyed at the spam but he feels the need to give an excuse of having no time as well as claiming VT all in one. It's very awkward to cram it into one post hm...?

Also, while I realize that he normally does have real life obligations, it is still something to note that he feels it is necessary to claim that he won't be posting much.


I really can't see clear scum morivation behind that post.

I mean, he even said BEFORE the game started that he wouldn't have enough time to play anyway
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 00:15 GMT
#247
On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.

The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"


You suck.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 00:52 GMT
#250
On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


And why do you think they're town?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 00:55 GMT
#252
Moosy, why are you looking so handsome today?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 01:04 GMT
#254
On October 18 2015 09:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 09:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Moosy, why are you looking so handsome today?

I'm meeting a girl today.

Oh wait! She's right here!


[image loading]
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 01:54 GMT
#255
(1)Farah looks townie for her posts. She is objective and her opening is straight forward to the point, asking "what is a bus" when she saw something she couldn't understand in thread. A little bit of WIFOM argument: I don't think she would ask what is it directly to the thread, but in the scum QT. As a first-timer, I would expect that she would be a little cautious before posting things in thread and be agressively scumhunting if she was scum.

The only thing that is making me wary of her is that she is not trying to see players coming through all perspectives even when I inquired her to do so. Being that aggressive and tunneled already in the beginning of the game isn't townie, and it's very rare on townie first-timers.

(2)The Shining's opening is horrendous IMO. It felt forced and tried to hard to give us the idea that he is town. The "someone be obvscum" thing isn't convincing. I don't like it. Also, these posts doesn't add up: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.

That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen.


I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty


On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.

Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.

Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls

I am such a shiny town.


K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum!


If the TL meta UNFORTUNATELY have the joke phase, why participating in it? I mean, if you don't like it, why estimulate it? It doesn't make sense to me.

This post is very okay, tho:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 06:59 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring.


This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here...

On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again?


And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else

welp too late.

##Vote: GlowingBear


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it.


This entrance is weak. Scott doesn't comment on anyone else except a slight townlean on GB(who is asking people about Moosy, the only other player mentioned here). He distances himself from his first thought in saying Moosy he's pushing the fact that he's town a little hard but its "just a thought."

Then he picks on an obvious joke vote and conversation between GB and Moosy to slight town GB and suspect Moosy?

Why is GB slight townlean? Flesh that out for me.


(3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.

mmm...choices choices choices
... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying.

(4)KelsierSC can't do this as town:

On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.

The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"


Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion.

(5)Vonthin, I wasn't liking this guy too much. Especially because he said this:

On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this


(i) he opened the game by saying town should not care to survive and go scum hunting, but then (ii) he does nothing in order to scumhunt and (iii) participates in the jokes just to say this.
Reading this post in a vacuum, however, conveys town vibes it really seems he is struggling with the terrible start. I'm not sure what to think.




That's all I have for now.

So, basically, Farah townlean, Kelsier scumlean, others null-ish.

I'd like people to talk about things I've brought here.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 02:27 GMT
#257
Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie?

I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 02:51 GMT
#260
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


I really see nothing important in boxerfred's posts for now. It's like he hasn't even been here.

And you've got it right, I don't like your entrance but I approve you push on scott. It looked townie.

Scott and boxerfred aren't in my list because I had nothing to talk about them. I'm terrible at reading scott anyway, but he reads me very well. Let's see how his reads will progress.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 02:51 GMT
#261
On October 18 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 11:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyone wants to play SC2 with a complete newbie?

I mean, I know the basic commands, but I suck


I stopped playing when my gaming laptop blew up and I had to downgrade to a Macbook. Now League is all I play


Argh...

No, dude, always go for Dota2
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 05:51 GMT
#273
[image loading]
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 12:17 GMT
#292
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...

"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"

The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 12:32 GMT
#294
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point.

(A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.

His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.



Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.

If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.

If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.

##Vote: KelsierSC
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 12:32 GMT
#295
On October 18 2015 21:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 21:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...

"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"

The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again

What do you think of sicklucker ?


I'm hating him, so it probably means he is town
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 18 2015 12:34 GMT
#297
Explanation: the sicklucker I've played a long time ago didn't make much sense as mafia, but even less sense as town. He annoyed me as fuck. Last game was liking him, and he turned out to be mafia. This game I'm not, so I have this gut feeling he might be town. Other than that I didn't see anything objectively alignment indicative
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