I've just finished reading Vonthin filter and I'm heading to Shining's.

Unfortunately I'm going to a party in like 15 minutes. Let me see if I can finish it before that.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 00:45 GMT

#2180

There Is no possibility that I am town and he is scum?

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 03:12 GMT

#2182

On October 31 2015 10:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
So basically vonthin I'd like you to go through the shining's case and talk about your mindset in the situations he describes. Specificaly the stuff that takes place AFTER your 9 initial posts

GB, play the fucking game you have promised content so much

Tomorrow morning

I'm driiiiiiiiinking

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 05:01 GMT

#2188

On October 31 2015 13:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
frick, can you blame me for not wanting to let gb get away with such a scummy game?

I will not get away. I have plenty of reasons to believe Vonthin is mafia. But I'm only building a case when I finish reading shining.

I will sleep now. Tomorrow will be the day.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 15:19 GMT

#2192

I've been busy. Sorry.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 16:21 GMT

#2193

Okay, guys. I've messed up. I thought I would have time to do shit. I won't.

I wanted to bring a lot of things I've found on Vonthin and make a tidy case. It won't be possible.

Anyway, after reading Vonthin's filter, his first posts looked actually very townie. The problem is the page 3 of his filter.

If you go to page three, you will see that he says Boxerfred is 100% scum, but he never votes him. Instead, he starts to push a "team" of Farah and Boxerfred, hard pushing Farah instead.

Then he makes a team of GB/BF. Then he votes me. If Boxerfred is 100% scum, why voting me first?

Plus, why does he consider "teams" up to the lynch? He said repeatedly "GB/BF" and "ES/Farah", conveniently paring a scum to a townie, AND PUSHING THE TOWNIES from those teams. Never the scum.

This is the main argument on why Vonthin is mafia.

Other argument are the night kills. All the dead townies were suspecting Vonthin. But especially Farah. Why is Farah dead instead of any of the confirmed? Because she was on the right track and with her dead the Roleblocker wasn't in risk of being lynched. It was better to have the townie with the correct reads dead than risk losing the game. And Farah suspected Vonthin

Finally, but weak: drunk bear can't be wrong twice.

##Vote: Vonthin

Unfortunately, I probably won't have time to double check Shining, but I have enough reasons to lynch Vonthin.

FF, I'm not mafia. I swear I'm town. If you lose this game because I'm mafia I will never be against you policy lymching me in any other games.

I swear I'm town.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 16:30 GMT

#2194

It is perfect. If you pair a scum and a town you can always get towncred from the lynch and go full throttle against the paired townie.

Farah gets shot, Vonthin goes for the Boxerfred/GB, starts lynching GB but joins Boxerfred wagon when he looks very bad. Then votes me without giving a single thought on Eversince, and never think shining could be scum. Just "kill GB kill GB kill GB"

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 16:34 GMT

#2195

Another thing: just to show how they overvalued the roleblocker: day1 Votecount shows a bus occurred

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 16:35 GMT

#2196

I mean, no, I'm stupid.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 16:40 GMT

#2197

I mean YES, I'm not stupid.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 19:02 GMT

#2200

On November 01 2015 03:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Frick

I've done what I've could inside my schedule. I'm sorry I couldn't do more. But the only way shining is mafia is if Vonthin is town. Because I'm town. And everything points to Vonthin being magia

I'm drunk again and my drunk senses are already pointing out to Vonthin.

Trust drunk bear.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 19:08 GMT

#2201

Actually drunk senses are pointing out that shining is the last scum

ARGH

What do I do

I have

ARGH

I don't know

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 19:23 GMT

#2206

On November 01 2015 04:18 The Shining wrote:
lol if you're town and sincerely think I'm scum, why the fuck would I not just vote you and afk this shitty last day?

I still think it's Vonthin. Dude doesn't even care about EoD, said he wouldn't be here. And tbh GB being so damn wrong all game is actually a town tell to me. Can't tell you how any times I've seen GB tunnel townies as town.

My vote stays. Vonthin is scum. Lynch Vonthin or lose the game, idc.

SKT won League Worlds so I refuse to let this bring me down

Tbf you could've just vote him if he is town just so you can pull this argument.

But this is wifom. Don't let the alcohol wifom you

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 20:52 GMT

#2242

Farah MVP

I'm drunk

DRUNK BEAR CAN'T BE WRONG TWICE YEAAAAH

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 20:53 GMT

#2243

Anyway, I think scum team did very fucking well, congratulations. Only one thing you guys messed up: killing Farah instead of a confirmed townie.

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 21:07 GMT

#2245

On November 01 2015 05:58 Eversince wrote:
I think killing Farah was fine. I wasn't involved in that vote but as best as I can understand;

There was no way of leaving Farah/Shining up.

Neither would vote the other, so the only option Vonthin really had was to risk leaving the confirmed up and rollin' the dice. It did come really close for him. Much closer than I think it would of been if he hadn't chose to kill Farah.

It doesn't matter how right Farah was, you've judst narrowed the options in LYLO.

I felt free to discuss only shining and Vonthin. FecalFeast wasn't a problem to me.

You've reduced your chance of getting alive from 33% to 25% basically

That's my opinion

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 23:10 GMT

#2269

You did well, Eversince. I actually think the whole scum team did well.

Welcome to TL Mafia and I hope you guys enjoyed it.

PS: Damdy, your wife is better than you

GlowingBear

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October 31 2015 23:17 GMT

#2270

On November 01 2015 08:00 Damdred wrote:
I'm sure Farah will come by in a bit to really give her thoughts but I'll just post some feelings.

1) The day one lynch on Scott was acceptable, it was OK couldn't blame anyone for it. Its unfortunate that the case by farah wasn't sheeped (I thought it was quite strong).

2) Early on especially the veteran town ignored the newbies to a certain extent. In the cases of GB and LM refused to read the case or really comment on it. Especially since this is a new game horrendoua , generally speaking newbs will learn more by interacting.

3) The SL kill was where it got a bit odd. It was OK just odd.

4) The boxer claim wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I understand the plan was to make GB boxer a team in the eyes of the game. The plan was excellent and for the say and a half following it worked.The problem is the plan hinged on vonthan doing more work and looking Towny.

The two ways to accomplish this was accomplished partly needing Farah dead and people alive to tunnel GB. Imo the best course of action would be kill farah, then kill shining.

It doesn't matter confirmed vs non confirmed it matters people trying to solve the game vs people who aren't. Nk would of been great in a final three with GB vont amd rels.

Scum te played well a couple of gutsy town decisions won it.

Gj

This would have been bad imo cause they would take 2 confirmed townies to LYLO + it would be obvious it would be to frame me