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On October 27 2015 12:03 Chromatically wrote:
The "mafia would have done this" kind of arguments are usually unconvincing because that's exactly what you're thinking about as mafia.
You're specifically trying to avoid doing "mafia things" the whole game, so it's super easy to say "hey look at this mafia thing I didn't do, I totally would have done that as mafia!"
OR
I'm town.
If you think Onegu and Hopeless are mafia for their own reasons, why dismissing investigating them, but only doing it when you have a flip? It doesn't make sense. You either have a scum read them or not.
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On October 27 2015 11:43 Chromatically wrote:
Hmm that's true actually, you talked about them a lot (although you didn't push them for lynch). Maybe that's not the exact team then. It's too early to be thinking about associations that hard though, I'll look more in depth on those when we have a mafia flip.
Are you going to investigate those right away or only when we have a mafia flip?
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STOP trying to fit a team
Just STOP
It's unflipped association and it is bad.
Want to know if I'm town? Lynch Vivax. When he flips scum, you'll know I'm town.
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On October 27 2015 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ofc i am not scum. I am just refusing to play with Xatalos because it is impossible to talk to him about anything since he doesn't listen, he doesn't re-evaluate anything and keeps saying the same things over and over again. Things that don't even make sense.
Literally, the truth is that even if he is town he is going to lose the game for the town, because he makes the game unplayable.
Lynch Rayn too
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Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first.
Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him.
No way you defend me like you did and say this, gumshoe. No way.
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On October 28 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
GB, I think gumshoe was basing a good part of his defense for you on how he scumread yamato and how his flip would clear you. Now that yamato flipped town, it makes sense for him to reconsider you, right?
No because I specifically asked this to him and he said it wouldn't change much and that he just wanted to clear me to the others.
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BH one question: am I mafia?
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On October 28 2015 05:02 ritoky wrote:
yo GB, you here?
Yes
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Weirdest game I have ever played.
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On October 28 2015 09:10 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 07:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Weirdest game I have ever played. you just never gonna respond to anything?
I didn't read a lot of posts. Anything in particular you want answered?
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On October 28 2015 11:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 09:10 ritoky wrote:On October 28 2015 07:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Weirdest game I have ever played. you just never gonna respond to anything? I didn't read a lot of posts. Anything in particular you want answered? Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 05:16 ritoky wrote:On October 28 2015 05:11 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 05:02 ritoky wrote:
yo GB, you here? Yes outside of vivax have your reads changed since the last read post? i mean i am assuming you read it since you were directly responding to me....
I've read the first, I didn't see the second.
No, it didn't evolve. The only thing that changed is that it makes me more suspicious of you since the NK is clearly for wifom and you live to do wifom kills.
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On October 28 2015 11:22 ritoky wrote:these are still your reads then? Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone.
Yes. Not yamato, cause his dead
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On October 28 2015 11:36 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 11:22 ritoky wrote:these are still your reads then? On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone. Yes. Not yamato, cause his dead do you think lynching yo, h1, and onegu would get us to final 3 then?
I don't know. There is a chance both of us are town. But it could take us to final 3, yeah.
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On October 28 2015 14:10 ritoky wrote:
also "could never be gb and vivax". no. let me tell you a story of a game of mafia where gb, damdred, and i rolled mafia. gb makes the first post "OMG I LOVE U GUYS, LET'S ALL BUS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER! GOIN FOR DAMDRED!" to which me and damdred also agree and bus the living fuck out of eachother and roflstomp the game. that was a fun game. it's not exactly probable but it is possible.
why did i stick around?
basically in order for onegu to be mafia every person who died has to have been wrong on him and onegu is killing every1 who TRs him. i don't think this is the case, which means onegu is town. so that list of 3 isn't good anymore.
i think GB is mafia, i think hopeless is a coinflip. so it is time to start considering alternatives.
Hahaha awesome game
A game where I had all the emotions chrom is accusing me of lacking in here.
Hence all meta cases on me were wrong
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On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote
##vote Gb
sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,
Lol gumshoe  do you have any reasons to read me as mafia?
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On October 28 2015 14:07 Chromatically wrote:
Ehhhh I really don't agree with that. gumshoe and Xatalos were both of the mindset that yamato scum = GB town, which was pretty reasonable. So they'd want to see the yamato flip before killing GB. Even I thought it would be a mistake to double lynch without considering info from the flip.
This is bullshit. If you think I'm mafia like you show you think I am you vote me 100%.
Tell me how yamato flipping mafia would clear me. And I want YOU to tell me, not anyone else.
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On October 28 2015 15:08 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 15:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote
##vote Gb
sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you, Lol gumshoe do you have any reasons to read me as mafia? not particularly T_T
So you're voting me because...?
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Anyway it's also bullshit that you say RAYN died because mafia think he was unlynchable. He had way more chances to be lynched over than you or Xatalos.
The fact that you thought I was town should be clear to you that RAYN was wrong so if he is dead it's because mafia tried to wifom us
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Let me be sincere here:
I'm completely demotivated to play. Partly because I've burned out of playing mafia, partly because I can't stand coming to a promising game, liking playing it, but then facing medium tier players overvaluating themselves and promoting shitfests, and players that signs in to simply not play the game. It's like playing chess with a wall.
I'm not certain on anyone but Vivax. Vivax has displayed some townie posts, I must agree, but his overall gameplay seems scummy to me. He doesn't feel engaged to win. He hasn't done anything memorable.
The rest I can call scummy for whatever reasons. At this point I want to lynch everybody and be the last man standing.
No, I won't make a case on Vivax. I've spent 3-4 hours re reading day one, talked about Vivax, said we should keep slam and yamato to read later, and that we should go against Onegu and hopeless, just to be called mafia right after. It's boring. Then it's day3, and people are considering a team of me/Onegu/hopeless ROFLMAO. I won't waste my time.
I will be hanging here and give some opinions on whatever I find relevant and vote people accordingly to how I feel comfortable.
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