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raynpelikoneet
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On October 23 2015 07:16 yamato77 wrote: Ritoky, slam, bh, onegu all likely mafia? I disagree on at least one. Your last paragraph of townreads is fine but meh, I can't agree with you too much here. why do you thin any of there players are town? and who would you swap? glowingbear? who else? | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:20 yamato77 wrote: I disagree on ritoky and I don't have a solid read on any of BH, slam, or Onegu. Yes I would swap in GB Notably missing from your post is Xata. Obviously he's been an active player but his stances are meh and I don't really think he's put himself out much. What do you read him? I didn't miss him in the post. I think he is likely town. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote: y'know, gonna be honest here. you're the most underwhelming player that people tell me is good on these forums. i just don't see it; maybe i am the one who is so bad i can't comprehend your greatness; but i don't think that's the case. I don't talk to people who i think are mafia or will not understand me anyways. | ||
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meh.. i guess i can be wrong here but idk. I just don't see it. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote: rayn, was this your turning point on ritoky? They're right when saying that ritoky posted nothing between "(rayn thinks) ritoky is town" and "POE lynch list include ritoky". Yeah as i said that was yesterday. I clearly pointed out (before going to bed) that i dislike Xatalos' & ritoky's reads on BH which i had missed earlier as i was tired. My townread on ritoky before was not based on that at all. I jsut didn't pay attention to his posts because i didn't think he was saying anything interesting. It's like how i treat players who don't say anything interesting (unless something changes)... in every game. There is absolutely nothing contradicting there, i re-evaluated his posting after i had slept and dug up further and came to conclusion he is mafia, because: 1) His read on BH is bad. 2) His reasoning for his read doesn't even make any sense.for example; he says there is 80% chance BH does this rng thing as town, so there is actually then 20% chance of BH doing that as mafia - by default. When people tell his that "BH could totally do that as mafia" it doesn't affect his read at all. In fact he just pushes the townread further with more illogical arguments, like trying to argue random lynching is as effective as not random lynching, which is a straight out lie, and doesn't even have anything to do with BH's alignment. So yeah, there is that. That's basically the only thing he has done in this game in addition to now bitching at me. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote: Come on man you can give something more definitive than this. I don't know what to say? I don't think his case on you makes him mafia because he seems to actually believe in what he says (while his argument is wrong). | ||
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On October 22 2015 06:45 ritoky wrote: at start of game mafia more likely to re-read and edit their post than town is. town more prone to be natural. the lines at the end, the changes between capitalizing and not capitalizing, and some other aspects shows he read and edited the post. this post looked town. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:44 marvellosity wrote: This is what worries me tbh. Not that I'm saying he isn't a levelheaded person, but I'm kinda struggling to place him in the game which I don't like what do you mean by this? like you don't know where he is headed or what? | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:49 Vivax wrote: Bothers me how first GB goes from "Vivax mafia cause tone" when most people agreed that it's my town tone, and then thinks of another reason to scumread me for and switches over to saying that he's suspicious of my townreads cause he doesn't know how they're formed. So um yeah, either my tone sucks but then my townreads don't have anything to do with it, and when confronted with other people's opinions (marv was hitting that with a pneumatic hammer) he abandons it and starts looking for another reason to bitch about my alignment, so he asks me some fancy questions "why do you townread these dudes" when it's a question he could ask anyone without having to scumread them first. Hmm okay this makes sense. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:48 marvellosity wrote: I don't know how to explain and it may be nothing like I know he's been on ritoky and stuff. but with most other people i can remember who they argued with, or standing out in particular for some reason, or meta stuff when I think about them. so for me Chromatically is kinda just *there*. tbh right now i'm not even sure i'm suspicious of him for it,not filtered him or anything, i'll do that tomorrow. so he can go about his business ^^ I kinda like him because i basically agree with the most of the stuff he says and he seems to be on the same page with me in almost all of his reads or targets of questioning (i mean, it kinda tells you who he considers mafia/town -- as in who/how he questions). | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:55 marvellosity wrote: kinda reminds me of your Shining townread d1 last game though. Probably, but i am more wary of letting that go too far like it did with Shining (and to some extent with sicklucker). I learn from my mistakes.  That doesn't however change my read atm. | ||
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It's like GB goes "i call this thing scummy then i ask about it" when it should be another way around if he didn't know the reasoning of Vivax' reads. If he doesn't care about the answer (=scummy anyways, as he seemed to think so), why even ask? | ||
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On October 23 2015 08:00 Xatalos wrote: Hm... rayn, you stopped responding to me because you understood my point about the RNG things, but I'm "dumb" anyway? Why am I "dumb" even if you thought I ultimately had a point? Or did you talk about it with me because you initially put / painted me as scum and then dropped interest when it didn't go anywhere? Well, I guess you did answer some of it indirectly in your other posts anyway. I was still left hanging especially with how you gave GB/Hopeless such easy town passes (for almost nothing) and why ritoky became scum for... basically disagreeing with you about some RNG statistics? Because i can see how it makes sense in your world, it doesn't change the fact i consider it dumb. That's not why i read ritoky mafia. And i can read Hopeless very well. Probably better than anyone in this game. I missed some stuff on GB, he looked level headed enough for me to consider him town and he is another person whose posts i pay very little attention to at least early on, unless ofc i think he is mafia. | ||
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##vote GlowingBear | ||
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On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote: I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread. Could you please enlighten me? Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close. | ||
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i amuse myself. | ||
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On October 23 2015 19:17 marvellosity wrote: It feels to me like he decided to scumread rayn and then is kinda just picking out posts to make it happen. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Maybe ritoky is town after all. | ||
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