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On October 27 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn ofc you are. You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless. But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post. You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up. this post is offending me personally because i am 100x better player than ypu are but it's okay.
Im offending your attitude. I've told you more than once that I liked playing with you before but you keep doing this "I am a better player than most of you" or this kind of rant which is annoying as hell.
I've never said I was better than you. But that's all that matters to you. How you feel when you compare yourself to the others. And when I criticise your attitude you take it personally.
Please change your attitude here, then.
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On October 27 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn ofc you are. You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless. But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post. You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up. this post is offending me personally because i am 100x better player than ypu are but it's okay. Im offending your attitude. I've told you more than once that I liked playing with you before but you keep doing this "I am a better player than most of you" or this kind of rant which is annoying as hell. I've never said I was better than you. But that's all that matters to you. How you feel when you compare yourself to the others. And when I criticise your attitude you take it personally. Please change your attitude here, then. that's what you implied.
I've implied you've been bad, not that I've been good. This is not a competition. Latest games I've been with you, you have been spot on on some people, and dead wrong on others. CopCake, rsoultin, etc. And you blame THEM, but if others were able to read them correctly, well, it's your fault you've got a wrong read, not theirs.
Anyway, that's only if you're town here. If you're mafia you've successfully annoyed everyone, so it might be a good play.
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On October 27 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 01:39 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn ofc you are. You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless. But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post. You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up. this post is offending me personally because i am 100x better player than ypu are but it's okay. Im offending your attitude. I've told you more than once that I liked playing with you before but you keep doing this "I am a better player than most of you" or this kind of rant which is annoying as hell. I've never said I was better than you. But that's all that matters to you. How you feel when you compare yourself to the others. And when I criticise your attitude you take it personally. Please change your attitude here, then. that's what you implied. I've implied you've been bad, not that I've been good. This is not a competition. Latest games I've been with you, you have been spot on on some people, and dead wrong on others. CopCake, rsoultin, etc. And you blame THEM, but if others were able to read them correctly, well, it's your fault you've got a wrong read, not theirs. Anyway, that's only if you're town here. If you're mafia you've successfully annoyed everyone, so it might be a good play. this is good. Okay why am i scum?
I've said why you're scum, I don't trust your flip on me and that's all there is. To be fair, you usually have been very right on me in most games and I find hard to believe you can be wrong just because Vivax pointed out sonething NAI about me.
I even think there were better lynched than you, Rayn. I started today wanting to vote Onegu, kept myself on yamato, but your insistence on trolling simply annoyed me as hell to the point I wanted to get rid of you. Especially when I think you could do that as scum to clutter the thread and disorganise town
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On October 27 2015 01:57 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:47 gumshoe wrote:On October 27 2015 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:39 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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ofc you are. You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless. But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post. You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up. this post is offending me personally because i am 100x better player than ypu are but it's okay. Im offending your attitude. I've told you more than once that I liked playing with you before but you keep doing this "I am a better player than most of you" or this kind of rant which is annoying as hell. I've never said I was better than you. But that's all that matters to you. How you feel when you compare yourself to the others. And when I criticise your attitude you take it personally. Please change your attitude here, then. that's what you implied. I've implied you've been bad, not that I've been good. This is not a competition. Latest games I've been with you, you have been spot on on some people, and dead wrong on others. CopCake, rsoultin, etc. And you blame THEM, but if others were able to read them correctly, well, it's your fault you've got a wrong read, not theirs. Anyway, that's only if you're town here. If you're mafia you've successfully annoyed everyone, so it might be a good play. this is good. Okay why am i scum? This is just dirty, Rayn knows hes town, therefore any reason Gb provides for Rayn being scum is proof to Rayn as to why Gb is actually scum. It's kinda like my initital Yamato reasoning but cruder. no GB just gave rteasions why he should have AT LEAST CONSIDER ME town over Slam on D1. He didn't. You were laying into Gb hard man, it's super easy to want to lynch someone whose attacking you. You of all people should understand that XD he also sorta town read/didntwannlynch slam from the start, so thats consistent. Are you still on about Slams play? It was fine, chill out, theres games where slam just talks about kush for days. This was a marked improvement -_- Gb as your defacto lawyer this game, Rayn has declared his vote will stay on Xata, until that statement changes I don't recommend talking to him as he doesn't actually have any way to threaten you. That and he might just use everything you say as a way to condemn you / :
You're now my lawyer ad judicia
Let's talk about rates
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On October 27 2015 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what happened, regardless of if you want to address it or not;
- rayn calls GB town
- rayn calls GB scum, explains why he changes his view -- see yamato/Vivax, mostly Vivax)
- GB calls rayn town
- GB asks about his scumreads from rayn (or townreads -- but still rayn too)
- rayn says "you are not reading the thread"
- GB says "yes i have"
- rayn says "well then you would know my stance (also marv's/chrom's)"
- GB says okay so gimme reads on ppl
- rayn says "haha you're scum"
- GB says oh i just now figured out rayn is mafia i wanna vote for him
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D2:
GB argues that what i did on D1 (when he called me mafia) is inside my townplay...
^_^
That's not how it happened at all
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On October 27 2015 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 02:20 gumshoe wrote:On October 27 2015 02:12 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah we seriously should be lynching GB. I don't care if people say I'm tunneled. But it looks like it's not going to happen and I'm about out of effort to push it with.
I wrote a whole strong meta thing and have talked about it all day today and everyone's just like, "actually GB is town because I like this one post that sounds vaguely okay". Look at his total disinterest in the lynch today. He isn't even trying to push a target. He votes yamato, says he would prefer Onegu, and now is voting rayn over them for being annoying..?
Oh well though. I don't know what else to say at this point. I looked into your meta thing. Your argument that Gb isnt pushing as hard as normal doesnt consider that 1) Gb has been busy and has had classes 2) Gb came under a ton of heat for pushing a derpy scum read(which is a townie thing btw) and had to spend time defending himself 3) by non Gb standards he pushed his case pretty hard, which considering you only have to valid 2 town games in your sample size should be enough to takethis point down to null. I also countered the miscellaneous points you brought up 1) Gb wasnt teaching vivax he was continuing a 'vivax is scum' point from before 2) Theres no reason to give town passes to sketchy players as scum unless they're your buds (you know your town so yeah, thats one point against that possibility), mislynches are scums lifeblood, scum want to create an environment of negativity and distrust, building bridges with lynchable townies is not the way to do that. Okay gumshoe, if you are town, look at the fact that Rayn calls GB mafia for the same things that he called GB town earlier (no Xatalos, I'm not into sausages).I don't wanna write up a big post, so.. meh..
Fixed
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On October 23 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I might be wrong on GlowingBear, what Vivax said makes a lot of sense tbh.
It's like GB goes "i call this thing scummy then i ask about it" when it should be another way around if he didn't know the reasoning of Vivax' reads. If he doesn't care about the answer (=scummy anyways, as he seemed to think so), why even ask?
1) this is shit and you know I can call people mafia and further investigate it.
2) it was in my filter and you could've catch up on this by yourself. Instead you just shift the responsibility to Vivax
It is a weak reason to call me mafia especially because it's a HUGE shift from this:
On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests.
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That, rayn, and slam's suspicions on you, makes me think you're mafia.
Period.
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On October 27 2015 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 02:48 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I might be wrong on GlowingBear, what Vivax said makes a lot of sense tbh.
It's like GB goes "i call this thing scummy then i ask about it" when it should be another way around if he didn't know the reasoning of Vivax' reads. If he doesn't care about the answer (=scummy anyways, as he seemed to think so), why even ask? 1) this is shit and you know I can call people mafia and further investigate it. 2) it was in my filter and you could've catch up on this by yourself. Instead you just shift the responsibility to Vivax It is a weak reason to call me mafia especially because it's a HUGE shift from this: On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. why would you ever quote a post and another post and make them appear in non-timelogical order? please place the posts in the right order and make a case scum.
Now I laughed 
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On October 27 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you "always have something to say".... no?
No
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Gumshoe lets just get rid of rayn
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On October 27 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 03:26 gumshoe wrote:
Oh look, that thing I said where Rayn would use whatever Gb says to confirm his own bias because Rayns already made up his mind happened. Go figure. nice. but GB is mafia.
I'm not mafia
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On October 27 2015 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:On October 27 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 27 2015 03:26 gumshoe wrote:
Oh look, that thing I said where Rayn would use whatever Gb says to confirm his own bias because Rayns already made up his mind happened. Go figure. nice. but GB is mafia. I'm not mafia ok, then you explain how you twist time?
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On October 27 2015 03:34 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 02:48 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2015 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I might be wrong on GlowingBear, what Vivax said makes a lot of sense tbh.
It's like GB goes "i call this thing scummy then i ask about it" when it should be another way around if he didn't know the reasoning of Vivax' reads. If he doesn't care about the answer (=scummy anyways, as he seemed to think so), why even ask? 1) this is shit and you know I can call people mafia and further investigate it. 2) it was in my filter and you could've catch up on this by yourself. Instead you just shift the responsibility to Vivax It is a weak reason to call me mafia especially because it's a HUGE shift from this: On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. YEAH WTF and then here he's saying that he thinks rayn is mafia for something that happened before he called rayn town. If he thinks rayn is mafia so much for the switch then why was rayn so town in the list post he made?
Because I was afraid I could be OMGUSing.
Then other people, especially slam, brought suspicions on him and it made sense to me.
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Whatever, I'm tired of talking about this. I want Rayn gone because I'm not having fun with him in this game more than I actually think he is mafia.
I am not mafia. You decide if this is true or not.
Getting ready for classes now. Bye bye.
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I'm here.
Gumshoe, are you Edatlin??
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Wow.
People are saying GB/Hopeless/Onegu.
When I've said since day1 that hopeless and Onegu would be better lynched. Especially Onegu.
Impressive
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On October 27 2015 11:43 Chromatically wrote:
Hmm that's true actually, you talked about them a lot (although you didn't push them for lynch). Maybe that's not the exact team then. It's too early to be thinking about associations that hard though, I'll look more in depth on those when we have a mafia flip.
You should also realise that if I am mafia and I know yamato is town it's way easier for me to place my vote on him than going against Rayn.
And I kept saying that I thought there were better lynches.
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On October 27 2015 11:43 Chromatically wrote:
Hmm that's true actually, you talked about them a lot (although you didn't push them for lynch). Maybe that's not the exact team then. It's too early to be thinking about associations that hard though, I'll look more in depth on those when we have a mafia flip.
Also, I don't know why you wouldn't take a look more in depth now instead of waiting for a flip.
You think they are mafia because...? Just unflipped association?
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