• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:20
CEST 18:20
KST 01:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy8[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple1BSL Season 235Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
new ranked ladder hack? Bot on ladder screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Guide To Watching Ancient Brood War Replays [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7300 users

[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 4

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:09 GMT
#1127
On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


Sorry, why is he okay?

BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too.

I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.


You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.


Cool that you are actively reading the thread and only came back 30 minutes later when I quoted your name.
I just saw it in your filter.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:13 GMT
#1130
On October 24 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


Sorry, why is he okay?

BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too.

I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.


You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.


I've read the game but I didn't see that?


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:15 Vivax wrote:
Good news boys, yammo either just pocketed me like a newb or he's actually town.

Now I know the above doesn't mean anything but I'm going for the he's town thingy.



I thought you were joking when you wrote this.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:15 GMT
#1134
On October 24 2015 02:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:34 yamato77 wrote:
I have arrived


Not a carrier, just a shitty arbiter still


On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


Sorry, why is he okay?

BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too.

I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.


You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.


Timestamps, bro.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:19 GMT
#1138
On October 24 2015 03:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate?


Sorry, why is he okay?

BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too.

I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.


You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.


Cool that you are actively reading the thread and only came back 30 minutes later when I quoted your name.
I just saw it in your filter.


LOL you can't be serious. I'm all over this place when I'm in front of a computer.


I was referring to this, Vivax.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:21 GMT
#1143
On October 24 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
How GB reads "shitty arbiter" as "mafia" will probably remain an unsolved mistery for the rest of eternity.


I didn't?

I was referring to your 30 minutes inactivity -.-

I know it's little but you were mainly joking, then you afk'd, then you came back only when I cited your name
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:22 GMT
#1145
By the way

##unvote

I was being a hot headed little bitch.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 18:23 GMT
#1146
And I think Slam is town for now, I see no reason for him to attack rayn like he is doing.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 19:07 GMT
#1188
I don't want to lynch chromatically. Especially now that Vivax is voting him.

And I've been putting thoughts on Rayn. His flip one is bad. He said it was very unlikely I was scum and that I was very level headed with my read in Vivax.

Then Vivax said something about me scum reading him before asking questions, and Rayn agreed and called me scum over the same posts he called me "very unlikely to be mafia". It doesn't make sense.

I'm voting rayn
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 19:10 GMT
#1195
On October 24 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
Anyway enough joking.

I'm not 100 % sold on Chrom. One of the things that give me pause is that he goes for unusual angles of attack, but in a rather flexible way compared to, say,GB.

I can sum up GB like this: Spends like a page of filter talking about me, the argument switch thingy,
then moans and bitches about Onegu not being scumread over him,
some emotional outburst here and there,
after bitching about Onegu he pops a vote on BH for reasons I don't really understand (then BH comes in and is BFF with GB no questions asked but whatever, that's a thing apart),
then he suddenly feels enlightened and makes public he was doing a shitty push after asking some really weird questions I don't understand the point of up to this point,
and then unvotes and kinda afks.


I didn't bitch because I was being voted over onegu. I was bitching because I couldn't understand how the same fact could grant a player a scum read and another player just a null read, especially when sheeping a bad case is way worse than actually bringing a bad case.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 23 2015 19:25 GMT
#1215
On October 24 2015 04:21 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 23:38 Chromatically wrote:
On October 23 2015 23:17 Xatalos wrote:
On October 23 2015 23:10 Chromatically wrote:
So I assume no one agrees with me on Xatalos then?

On October 23 2015 21:59 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, and Chromatically... Not sure yet. He's kept being pretty reasonable / constructive all game, but I don't really think there's been much (if anything?) I've agreed with him on... And that case against me is just, pretty much describing my town meta features as scummy points. The stuff he's saying about me is null at worst. And then I'm confidently scum? I've received a couple of cases like that (from scum) before. Most notably the case that called me a "drama queen" or something (LOL). That was a funny case. Anyways, it feels kind of like those cases, nitpicking null/towny things and painting them in the worst possible light. It doesn't even feel like an actual case, more like an effort to try and find *somethjng* (anything) bad about me... And failing, but calling me scum regardless.


Here are the basic points I made: Xatalos was active without posting anything particularly in the beginning of the game (mafia do this because they want to appear active but have trouble posting content), waffling on votes (mafia do this because they want to keep their options open and not ignore their partners), throwing suspicion on rayn initially (mafia do this to make people look worse than they are), weird read on BH (mafia throw out townreads without thinking about why). The last two points are meh, but the first two I think are pretty clearly scum traits and certainly not "null at worst" from any perspective. The filter length defense is the only good one I've heard, but filter length is not everything.

If people really don't want to lynch Xatalos, I'll obviously consolidate onto someone else. But I do think I made a strong case and I feel good about it.


I mean... Posting a lot (including filler) is my town meta. As scum, I select more carefully what I post. Waffling is something I will do as scum, but also as town, so it's not really.... a point. I think my read on BH is decent, do you disagree with it? Even rayn finally admitted it wasn't meritless (at least "from my perspective" lol). Not sure why scumhunting is scummy again. It's not like I showed suspicion towards rayn baselessly.

I made the point as just a general point not really looking at meta, but when I do look at meta I don't see a lot of filler as either alignment. Waffling I thought I saw more of as mafia than as town, as town I thought I saw a lot more confident reads on people (posting "X is probably town" etc). I didn't think that was strong enough to post though and the post was long enough already. I do disagree on BH, I think the RNG thing at the beginning was entirely not alignment indicative and there was no reason to townread him for it but that's been talked about a lot already and you could be town that just sees it differently (in a way I think is wrong), so I guess that point is fine. The rayn thing the way you said things about him was misrepresenting what he was doing to make it look worse, and I thought that it was weird to jump on him for what you did.

If not you (which is looking very unlikely), then probably GB? I'm looking at GB/Slam/BH and I'm kind of out of time right now but I can finalize that later. Onegu I got a town feeling when reading through for some reason, ritoky I kind of liked his BH thing, and Hopeless I'm willing to trust the rayn/yamato read for now.


During this non-insubantial post you say:

Meta is null

BH is null

the rayn thing is NAI

GB/Slam/BH is scum, but I'm not going to explain it. Also, ritoky's explanation of BH being town was good.

What are you even saying bro

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 23:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 23:35 marvellosity wrote:
literally just explained my feelings about Chrome, GB.

other than your read on Vivax i can't really think of anything that would make you town. so all that's left is a bad read on vivax.


I saw it, but don't you agree that Chromatically is being at least productive and Onegu and Hopeless aren't?

Hopeless is disinterested just like he was in Avogadro's mini mafia.

But especially Onegu. He is sheeping me. How come you think I might be mafia for a bad read on Vivax but Onegu likely to be town for sheeping me into this very same read?


I don't see how Chromatically has contributed anything meaningful. Where has he done this? Why are you defending him over Onegu and Hopeless1?

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's lynch Slam.
##unvote
##vote Alakaslam

I wanna tunnel Xatalos so hard after D1. So hard.
I am literally seeing red and i really really wanna do this.
And i can't unless i lynch mafia.


I'm not a slam afficionado. Explain?

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chromatically's oplay is completely different from his scumgames where he basically picks a person and tunnels that into oblivion.


Given that I have a hard-on for lynching chrom, I'd appreciate evidence for this. if I don't see it, I'll do the research myself but that's a lot of effort. Do you have an example on hand?


I've already said it, I think his posts are mostly directed to catch scum. I've quoted a post that felt townie to me at some pointz
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 02:36 GMT
#1457
You know slam for such long time rayn.

Why does his play style surprises you now?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 14:56 GMT
#1520
Why are you guys considering teams when no one has been lynched yet?

Xata you don't think Rayn is scum?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 15:02 GMT
#1523
On October 24 2015 17:24 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:
You know slam for such long time rayn.

Why does his play style surprises you now?


Because he's scum and has to find some excuse for the horrible lynch. Even if the excuse doesn't relate to facts (Slam being less trolly than ever this game).

Not to mention, Slam wasn't even lynched for trolling but his serious posts... Who knows why... So it's not really even a passable excuse. 1) overall false and 2) not related to why Slam was lynched


Agreed
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 15:04 GMT
#1524
On October 25 2015 00:02 Xatalos wrote:
Not sure where you would get that picture GB?


You've asked Ritoky if he agreed on a team that didn't have Rayn
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 15:06 GMT
#1525
By the way, for those who wondering, I slept yesterday then I woke up late to an appointment. I couldn't be here until 1am
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2015 15:30 GMT
#1529
On October 25 2015 00:16 Xatalos wrote:
That wasn't a scumteam, it was just asking his opinion on several players.


Oh okay.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 25 2015 01:43 GMT
#1683
I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 25 2015 08:32 GMT
#1689
On October 25 2015 12:17 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.



But does his case hold water? Like the meta?

I havent fully read it yet. I am getting some sleep now.


I don't know, I haven't read the case since I'm town, so that automatically makes his case completely wrong
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 25 2015 16:39 GMT
#1710
On October 25 2015 22:30 Vivax wrote:
I'm looking for reasons to townread GB pretty hard, I suspect that large part of me just wants to lynch him for the shitty push so I need to make sure I'm not being emotional here.


You've being scum reading me all day one.
Now there's an actual case on me. A very effortful one.

and you're thinking about voting Rayn and looking for reasons to town read me?

Lol no way
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 25 2015 17:27 GMT
#1735
On October 26 2015 02:04 Xatalos wrote:
Are you suggesting Vivax is scum then, GB? Or what? Even then that wouldn't make much sense unless he was scum with you, and then your post wouldn't make much sense.


I'm not suggesting, I'm DECLARING he is scum. I've never said he wasn't?
I'm adorable.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1692
ProTech124
UpATreeSC 38
BRAT_OK 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39008
Bisu 3190
Jaedong 1459
Rush 769
Mini 525
Larva 379
Snow 301
Stork 291
Barracks 250
ggaemo 162
[ Show more ]
hero 154
Dewaltoss 133
firebathero 119
sorry 79
Zeus 75
Mong 39
Shinee 39
Killer 37
soO 24
Bale 22
Shine 19
Hm[arnc] 19
Terrorterran 18
ToSsGirL 18
Trap 18
scan(afreeca) 13
Rock 13
Noble 4
Dota 2
qojqva2928
Dendi1210
League of Legends
Trikslyr51
Other Games
singsing2339
Liquid`RaSZi1778
Beastyqt377
ceh9364
DeMusliM168
TKL 156
RotterdaM97
ArmadaUGS97
QueenE73
Mew2King52
Rex37
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV3022
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 108
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile145
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2094
League of Legends
• Nemesis2435
• TFBlade703
Other Games
• WagamamaTV249
• Shiphtur228
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 40m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 40m
The PondCast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
GSL
4 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.