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GlowingBear

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October 23 2015 18:09 GMT

#1127

On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:

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You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.

Cool that you are actively reading the thread and only came back 30 minutes later when I quoted your name.
I just saw it in your filter.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:13 GMT

#1130

On October 24 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:

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I thought you were joking when you wrote this.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:15 GMT

#1134

On October 24 2015 02:36 Vivax wrote:

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Not a carrier, just a shitty arbiter still

On October 24 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:

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You mean my yolo townread on yamato?

Didn't somebody already tell you that you should read the game.

Timestamps, bro.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:19 GMT

#1138

On October 24 2015 03:13 Vivax wrote:

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LOL you can't be serious. I'm all over this place when I'm in front of a computer.

I was referring to this, Vivax.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:21 GMT

#1143

On October 24 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
How GB reads "shitty arbiter" as "mafia" will probably remain an unsolved mistery for the rest of eternity.

I didn't?

I was referring to your 30 minutes inactivity -.-

I know it's little but you were mainly joking, then you afk'd, then you came back only when I cited your name

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:22 GMT

#1145

By the way

##unvote

I was being a hot headed little bitch.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 18:23 GMT

#1146

And I think Slam is town for now, I see no reason for him to attack rayn like he is doing.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 19:07 GMT

#1188

I don't want to lynch chromatically. Especially now that Vivax is voting him.

And I've been putting thoughts on Rayn. His flip one is bad. He said it was very unlikely I was scum and that I was very level headed with my read in Vivax.

Then Vivax said something about me scum reading him before asking questions, and Rayn agreed and called me scum over the same posts he called me "very unlikely to be mafia". It doesn't make sense.

I'm voting rayn

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 19:10 GMT

#1195

On October 24 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
Anyway enough joking.

I'm not 100 % sold on Chrom. One of the things that give me pause is that he goes for unusual angles of attack, but in a rather flexible way compared to, say,GB.

I can sum up GB like this: Spends like a page of filter talking about me, the argument switch thingy,
then moans and bitches about Onegu not being scumread over him,
some emotional outburst here and there,
after bitching about Onegu he pops a vote on BH for reasons I don't really understand (then BH comes in and is BFF with GB no questions asked but whatever, that's a thing apart),
then he suddenly feels enlightened and makes public he was doing a shitty push after asking some really weird questions I don't understand the point of up to this point,
and then unvotes and kinda afks.

I didn't bitch because I was being voted over onegu. I was bitching because I couldn't understand how the same fact could grant a player a scum read and another player just a null read, especially when sheeping a bad case is way worse than actually bringing a bad case.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 23 2015 19:25 GMT

#1215

On October 24 2015 04:21 Blazinghand wrote:

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On October 23 2015 23:38 Chromatically wrote:

On October 23 2015 23:17 Xatalos wrote:

On October 23 2015 23:10 Chromatically wrote:
So I assume no one agrees with me on Xatalos then?

On October 23 2015 21:59 Xatalos wrote:
Ah, and Chromatically... Not sure yet. He's kept being pretty reasonable / constructive all game, but I don't really think there's been much (if anything?) I've agreed with him on... And that case against me is just, pretty much describing my town meta features as scummy points. The stuff he's saying about me is null at worst. And then I'm confidently scum? I've received a couple of cases like that (from scum) before. Most notably the case that called me a "drama queen" or something (LOL). That was a funny case. Anyways, it feels kind of like those cases, nitpicking null/towny things and painting them in the worst possible light. It doesn't even feel like an actual case, more like an effort to try and find *somethjng* (anything) bad about me... And failing, but calling me scum regardless.

Here are the basic points I made: Xatalos was active without posting anything particularly in the beginning of the game (mafia do this because they want to appear active but have trouble posting content), waffling on votes (mafia do this because they want to keep their options open and not ignore their partners), throwing suspicion on rayn initially (mafia do this to make people look worse than they are), weird read on BH (mafia throw out townreads without thinking about why). The last two points are meh, but the first two I think are pretty clearly scum traits and certainly not "null at worst" from any perspective. The filter length defense is the only good one I've heard, but filter length is not everything.

If people really don't want to lynch Xatalos, I'll obviously consolidate onto someone else. But I do think I made a strong case and I feel good about it.

I mean... Posting a lot (including filler) is my town meta. As scum, I select more carefully what I post. Waffling is something I will do as scum, but also as town, so it's not really.... a point. I think my read on BH is decent, do you disagree with it? Even rayn finally admitted it wasn't meritless (at least "from my perspective" lol). Not sure why scumhunting is scummy again. It's not like I showed suspicion towards rayn baselessly.

I made the point as just a general point not really looking at meta, but when I do look at meta I don't see a lot of filler as either alignment. Waffling I thought I saw more of as mafia than as town, as town I thought I saw a lot more confident reads on people (posting "X is probably town" etc). I didn't think that was strong enough to post though and the post was long enough already. I do disagree on BH, I think the RNG thing at the beginning was entirely not alignment indicative and there was no reason to townread him for it but that's been talked about a lot already and you could be town that just sees it differently (in a way I think is wrong), so I guess that point is fine. The rayn thing the way you said things about him was misrepresenting what he was doing to make it look worse, and I thought that it was weird to jump on him for what you did.

If not you (which is looking very unlikely), then probably GB? I'm looking at GB/Slam/BH and I'm kind of out of time right now but I can finalize that later. Onegu I got a town feeling when reading through for some reason, ritoky I kind of liked his BH thing, and Hopeless I'm willing to trust the rayn/yamato read for now.

During this non-insubantial post you say:

Meta is null

BH is null

the rayn thing is NAI

GB/Slam/BH is scum, but I'm not going to explain it. Also, ritoky's explanation of BH being town was good.

What are you even saying bro

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I don't see how Chromatically has contributed anything meaningful. Where has he done this? Why are you defending him over Onegu and Hopeless1?

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I'm not a slam afficionado. Explain?

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Given that I have a hard-on for lynching chrom, I'd appreciate evidence for this. if I don't see it, I'll do the research myself but that's a lot of effort. Do you have an example on hand?

I've already said it, I think his posts are mostly directed to catch scum. I've quoted a post that felt townie to me at some pointz

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 02:36 GMT

#1457

You know slam for such long time rayn.

Why does his play style surprises you now?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 14:56 GMT

#1520

Why are you guys considering teams when no one has been lynched yet?

Xata you don't think Rayn is scum?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 15:02 GMT

#1523

On October 24 2015 17:24 Xatalos wrote:

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Because he's scum and has to find some excuse for the horrible lynch. Even if the excuse doesn't relate to facts (Slam being less trolly than ever this game).

Not to mention, Slam wasn't even lynched for trolling but his serious posts... Who knows why... So it's not really even a passable excuse. 1) overall false and 2) not related to why Slam was lynched

Agreed

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 15:04 GMT

#1524

On October 25 2015 00:02 Xatalos wrote:
Not sure where you would get that picture GB?

You've asked Ritoky if he agreed on a team that didn't have Rayn

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 15:06 GMT

#1525

By the way, for those who wondering, I slept yesterday then I woke up late to an appointment. I couldn't be here until 1am

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 24 2015 15:30 GMT

#1529

On October 25 2015 00:16 Xatalos wrote:
That wasn't a scumteam, it was just asking his opinion on several players.

Oh okay.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 25 2015 01:43 GMT

#1683

I hardly believe any scum would put so much effort in a case like that on me.

But I'm not scum.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 25 2015 08:32 GMT

#1689

On October 25 2015 12:17 Onegu wrote:

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But does his case hold water? Like the meta?

I havent fully read it yet. I am getting some sleep now.

I don't know, I haven't read the case since I'm town, so that automatically makes his case completely wrong

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 25 2015 16:39 GMT

#1710

On October 25 2015 22:30 Vivax wrote:
I'm looking for reasons to townread GB pretty hard, I suspect that large part of me just wants to lynch him for the shitty push so I need to make sure I'm not being emotional here.

You've being scum reading me all day one.
Now there's an actual case on me. A very effortful one.

and you're thinking about voting Rayn and looking for reasons to town read me?

Lol no way

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

October 25 2015 17:27 GMT

#1735

On October 26 2015 02:04 Xatalos wrote:
Are you suggesting Vivax is scum then, GB? Or what? Even then that wouldn't make much sense unless he was scum with you, and then your post wouldn't make much sense.

I'm not suggesting, I'm DECLARING he is scum. I've never said he wasn't?

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