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On November 10 2015 06:40 Blazinghand wrote: rayn, I DEFINITELY shot you for scumreading me. You should be proud! You got it right and earned a bullet for your troubles: This was so spot-on, except for the last bit where shennies are BS. They do happen, they just don't happen like that; you need a large base of people who are interested in them to begin with. There was a real risk on 1G getting lynched, it was just much smaller than you'd expect cause people weren't the most interested in shennies. I's also worth noting the gb/yam shennies would only help scum hehe D1 when me and marv were voting for Slam there was no way you can ever lynch Onegu (or anyone there). D2 the only correct play (while terrible) was to lynch yamato, at least when he wasn't most likely gonna come back and vote. Basically you don't lose anything if you lynch Onegu the next day and he is scum, but if he is town and you lynch him AND yamato it's a disaster. I tried.. I tried so hard to get GlowingBear to do something else than tunnel Vivax, but no... I was planning to look into Onegu and you on N2 and wrote just what i remembered on the top of my head but then again Xatalos said something really stupid and it just killed my motivation. I didn't really have any other options for scum other than GlowingBear / three scum. But i ill never lynch "null scummy" players over "stupid scummy". I can't make myself do that. I would say well played but i don't think you played "that" well.  Well okay, well played. You won after all.I think also gumshoe played really well despite the yamato push on D2. | ||
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I doubt i would have lynched anyone but GB on D3 but after that everyone else was just town. It is easy to say "just shoot the people who scumread you", and I always recommend this, but people are actually very bad at this and it is apparently hard to do. well people are dumb and don't think why scum shoot people when it should be obvious. like idk, i didn't follow the game after i died because i don't care about the games after i die but it seems like i was the only person who was suspicious of you -- i get shot, people thought i was "distracting the town" (when in fact Xatalos was -- really).. Why does rayn get shot? hmm... Apparently 1+1 is hard. | ||
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On November 10 2015 10:03 Koshi wrote: Did you even push any mafia during the first 2 days rayn? No i didn't. But in my last reads i had already PoE'd Hopeless as scum. I suspected BH and i was going to re-read Onegu (because everyone else looked town to me -- except for GlowigBear). Like at that point the town was pretty much on autopilot onto lynching GB/Onegu/Hopeless anyways, agreed? At least that's what i gathered, unless you want to argue that Xatalos can actually manage to lynch me. Now everyone in the game, except for me, considers BH town. Xatalos is hard pushing me anyways. If i manage to lynch GlowingBear over Onegu on D3 (which i would probably have tried to do anyways), what happens? I look bad when GB flips town, ESPECIALLY bad if Onegu flips AFTER that. If BH is town, why do i get shot over BH (who everyone else considers town and is "pushing" mafia)? There is legitmately no reason for that. Like i understand this is - and should not be - clear on D3 or even D4, but when both of Onegu and GB flip what they do, the question should arise. Blazinghand was "pushing" (i put it in that way because i don't really think he was pushing that hard on D1-D2) Onegu, the mafia. rayn was pushing GlowingBear the townie. Blazinghand is not shot. rayn is shot. There are no blue roles. Everyone including scum thinks Hopeless is scum so that doesn't really matter. BH is universal townread. rayn is not universal townread. In my opinion there is not much chance for the reasoning. | ||
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On November 10 2015 09:51 Koshi wrote: And then after the game you blame town for not lynching BH despite you being right about a somewhat trow away BH read? Those 2 fucking lines you had about BH? That's pretty pathetic rayn. FYI I don't make throw away reads. And i am not blaming anyone, i am just saying that was an easy conclusion to make. I don't even know what anyone posted after i died. | ||
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 Otherwise i think you looked really town. | ||
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