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On October 05 2015 01:41 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote: What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town >< wow you found a post, went "haha I found a slip!", and posted this "I'm so sad to be right but here it is" without even trying to look for the post I was talking about
no, i was looking into the point where you said cool could be town. it came right after the wall ^^ nice try
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On October 05 2015 01:38 Rels wrote: GB gets town points because one of the only things he did yesterday was try to push a switch on Shining, who I think he's town. There is no way GB is scum with Shining.
a reaction test he never intended to follow through on or he's lying about the reaction test
try again
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On October 05 2015 00:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 00:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: hey rsoul, want to lynch Rels? :3 why does moosy want to lynch rels, is the better question? i know why rels wants to lynch you Rels started looking into me when I started looking into him lol.
i really hope this isn't your only reason lol ><
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On October 05 2015 01:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:41 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote: What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town >< why does gb get "town points" for saying that cool was town when he's openly admitted that he believed no such thing? either his cool is town gambit was really a reaction test gambit and he never believed cool was town, and decided not to take into account that a wagon didn't build when he gave people the opportunity to switch or he's lying about doing a reaction test at all, meant the "cool is town" thing, then went right back to voting him and trying to keep the lynch on him where are these town points you're talking about? I was talking about this post: On October 04 2015 05:37 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote: Oh god , rels is scum reading me for the worst reasons. First it was because im a smurf LOL? i think everyone here would laugh at that. and then Im a lurker reader? Do u even know how boring just reading a game is? I admit i have tried it , but barely got past 1 page.
LS seemed pretty relax when i posted earlier about what ppl do for a living , he was like Yeapp i was watching worlds and shit..
GB is super chill
and it would be super sick if SL was mafia but i think i just want that to be true so i wont comment
And the damdred CC is still pretty suspicious, he also just pops in and out while always being present in thread, not sure if thats obvious from just reading his filter.
I'd say Rels damdred and GB
and if rayn is scum then.. not sure GB and damdred?
OK. Even if coolTLname is not a lurker reader, I cannot believe this medic bait can possible comes from town. Especially one who has play a newbie here before that's a strong scumread and you already said in the post that i quoted that the bussing d1 and marv's opinion weren't enough and you still thought he was scum "lessened" or not, you were not discussing other lynches despite having scumreads, and you still reacted oddly to a large post of nothing i could understand it if cool posted an actual will, but he didn't Whatever I explained my thought process. If you don't believe it nothing I can do. I discussed other lynches, and I was willing to switch to either of them. And if you and others had followed, we wouldn't have lynched coolTLname. Actually what you just described is similar to something you did that is suspicious; willing to lynch Moosy or I, willing to mount one against the other, but not willing to switch at deadline when your hard townread did. You were willing to switch to GB but not to Moosy.
i didn't switch to gb, either. i was trying to figure out what he was doing, and i was the only one really doing that and not reacting like a jumping bean, btw
it's also obvious why i didn't switch to anyone at the wall. it was an empty summary text that looked like a hail mary to me, and to have you my next most suspicious person jumping so quickly on it for no good reason certainly isn't going to make me especially inclined to switch to moosy, now is it? ^^
my behavior actually matches up to my posts and reads because
drumroll
i'm town. sorry you didn't roll town this time, bro
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On October 05 2015 01:48 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:47 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 01:43 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 01:38 Rels wrote: GB gets town points because one of the only things he did yesterday was try to push a switch on Shining, who I think he's town. There is no way GB is scum with Shining. a reaction test he never intended to follow through on or he's lying about the reaction test try again Wow wait wait wait wait. Did he say his whole "I'll follow you Trfel on pushing Shining" was a huge reaction test ? I understood that the "I don't think coolTLname is mafia but I'll vote him anyway" was the reaction test. There is nooooooooooo town points if there Shining push was just a test. and actually that could indicate he's partner with Shining, preparing a bus for next day What did he say to make you think that ? Cause I thought he was talking about the "coolTLname is town but I vote him" post
oh i don't know maybe just the part about he was never going to lynch anyone but cool, or the part where he was screaming at people to stay on cool
you know
those amazingly beautiful contextual things that make it obvious what he's referring to
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so now your story is that scum with a mislynch set on cool are gonna buss each other for lolz to set up a reaction test
super rational you're being today
i'm gonna go have lunch. maybe you can get your story straight by then
note to everyone paying attention, scum can buss each other as much as they want this coming phase as long as they focus on mislynchable townies for the first lynch because we're moving into lylo and they only need one more mislynch
keep an eye on who is being pushed
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On October 05 2015 01:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:53 rsoultin wrote: so now your story is that scum with a mislynch set on cool are gonna buss each other for lolz to set up a reaction test Yes of course GB's push if it was real definitely means he's town if Shining is mafia, as he had NO way to know people wouldn't all agree and switch to Shining, especially with Trfel, rayn and I bringing up points against him GB's push if it was a reaction test and he never meant to lynch Shining doesn't mean shit about his alignement
this is why even as a reaction test the likelihood that they're scum together is practically nill
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On October 04 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 06:53 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:49 GlowingBear wrote:On October 04 2015 06:46 Rels wrote: OK coolTLname is probably town Let's switch LOLWUT? You just said the guy is lurker reader. He is only posting a case on me NOW close to deadline when people are arguing about lynching me. In other words, he is clearly lurker reader??? And this is clearly orchestrated? Lol if you guys switch to me and let cool TL live AGAIN I can't say much about your stupidity. Dude You said the whole time there was NO way mafia would bus two straight days Gogogo I didn't mean it? Dude the guy has all the scum traits a human being can have.
and you're saying you didn't know that he was scumreading cool and the "reaction test" was referring to voting shining?
bullshit, lol. he responded this way to your question
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post rather than question, but the same thing
this is just one of many posts that make it clear gb wasn't voting for cool as a reaction test -_-
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nope, it's really not
okay, rels ^^
i will concede that there is a remote possibility that in reading all the posts where GB said that he never had any intention of lynching anyone but cool, and screaming for people to keep lynching cool in big bold letters when y'all were switching to shining
was somehow lost upon you
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On October 05 2015 02:05 Rels wrote: I don't know why I'm talking to you. Each time I come with a proof of what I think you find a scum explanation for what I could have been thinking instead.
that's because your posts don't line up with what you're not telling me that you thought, and you apparently are pretty obtuse and have poor reading comprehension...even in big bold letters ^^
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On October 05 2015 02:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:05 Rels wrote: I don't know why I'm talking to you. Each time I come with a proof of what I think you find a scum explanation for what I could have been thinking instead. that's because your posts don't line up with what you're now telling me that you thought, and you apparently are pretty obtuse and have poor reading comprehension...even in big bold letters ^^
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On October 05 2015 02:07 Rels wrote: you really are super frustrating to play with p: Like here, until 2 minutes ago, I thought his Shining push was real, and the reaction test was the "I think he's town but I voted him anyway" part. When I realized I've been fooled, I immediately thought he could be mafia, until you made me realize it doesn't matter if it was a reaction test or not. Why are you even doubting the fact that I thought the Shining push was genuine ? Why do you have this need of looking for scum motivation on everything I do ? And how the fuck would me lying about the fact I thought GB was not reaction testing when he pushed Shining is scum indicative ?
i looked to find indications that you had been in fact wavering on your cool scumread before that post. there were none. you said there were
case closed
you see, rels, gb's play shouldn't be townie to you. first you say he's town because of townreading cool (which is bullocks anyway because scum can townread town, but we'll ignore that for now), and now you say he's town because of putting his vote on shining
all that his vote on shining indicates is that they couldn't be scum together
it doesn't make gb town, and in fact the quotes you just quoted are very odd for a supposed reaction test, aren't they? you accuse me of being biased, but you don't question gb's questionable behavior because you're determined to call shining scum
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On October 05 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 02:06 rsoultin wrote: nope, it's really not
okay, rels ^^
i will concede that there is a remote possibility that in reading all the posts where GB said that he never had any intention of lynching anyone but cool, and screaming for people to keep lynching cool in big bold letters when y'all were switching to shining
was somehow lost upon you And how is the fact that: - I thought it was a genuine push - So I said it was weird he was not willing to switch at deadline is not making sense ? Like you can be annoying and doubt the first one like you're doing now. Where is the scum motivation ? The fact that he screamed in big bold letters is what I found weird about him yesterday, since I believed the first assumption.
i've explained what i find scummy about you already; you just misrepresented your mindset preceding cool's so-called "will" and your townread on gb is very questionable. in order for me to believe what you're saying here, i have to believe that you're not being analytical not only just in the moment, but also well after the fact. take it as a compliment that i find that as doubtful as i do
there's a very simple associative scum motivation for all this but i'm not going into that right now
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anyway, i'm out for realz this time for lunch
toodles
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On October 05 2015 04:25 Trfel wrote: MoosyDoosy, I don't really feel like reading your filter, and my memory is terrible.
Would you mind stating your reads on everyone? No reasons are necessary, I'll ask for reasons for a few specific people next.
-pokes at truffle-
rels is mafia
^^
-disappears back into the ether-
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On October 05 2015 04:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 04:27 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 04:25 Trfel wrote: MoosyDoosy, I don't really feel like reading your filter, and my memory is terrible.
Would you mind stating your reads on everyone? No reasons are necessary, I'll ask for reasons for a few specific people next. -pokes at truffle- rels is mafia ^^ -disappears back into the ether- Yeah, but I don't want him to be mafia
i know
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Okay. It's time.
The Never Lynches
rayn - much as I hate to admit it, he still managed to question (if with a good deal of bias) his scumreads as well as worked with other players to discuss reads, which generally is a sign he's town, especially when he's this invested. his scum play is more similar to taking a wrecking ball and just screaming everyone down. also his reaction post-flip, while shameful, was much more in line with a frustrated town rayn than a fake emotional reaction from scum. rayn is town
trfel - if i die, take a look at the d1 votes. that in and of itself confirms trfel. beyond that, his pushes on both sicklucker and the shining are pretty classic trfel, and even without the votes from d1 to confirm him town, there's the matter of his frustration with us for not paying attention to his case, and a lot of little mannerisms that probably mean more to me than they do to you guys. but him being willing to admit to being lost while still pushing what he believes is pretty townie on its own
lightningstrike - the post where he flew off the handle at rayn is not something lightningstrike is capable of as scum. period. i know that people don't get him, they don't like his parroting, and they don't like his summarizing. well...too bad. that's just lightningstrike. the fact that he does actually disagree with some of the leaders of the thread at different times means he still has a mind of his own and is willing to talk about it. and quite simply...that outburst is not something he is capable of. ls posts baby seals when he's caught as scum . he does not scream at people scumreading him. two completely different mindsets
The Pretty Damn Town (but there's admittedly a small chance that I could be wrong)
Shining - all his posts were pointed, and if they didn't end in firm reads they at least brought up concerns to address with other players to get him to firm reads. His emotional reaction to trfel's case was hugely town-indicative for him...Shining tends to get pretty angry about being scumread for things that are not real scumreads (sorry trfel!) when he's town. I'm not 100% (closer to 90%) that he couldn't play this way as scum, so he's not in the never lynch pile, but you'd be fools to look to lynch him anytime soon
MoosyDoosy - cause reasons. just make sure that he makes sense. Shining, I trust you know what I mean here
Big Baddies
Rels - his investment is small, his brain has left the building, he doesn't even know his own mind and claims that he was having doubts on cool before the wall post of fluff where nothing in his posting leading up to that indicates that he plans to consider lynching anyone but cool (scumreads aside, just check his filter). his push on cool was asinine given cool had said many times that he'd played on whatever that site is, SC2, that is pretty roles based. must be a smurf or a lurker. tch. he keeps missing things from context that either strongly suggests he doesn't care what he's reading, is deliberately ignoring it, or is only reading filters and not the thread. lynch with fire
GB - assuming that rels flips scum (and he will) that clears moosy (beyond what i believe already). and GB clears shining given the "reaction test" could have resulted in shining's lynch. quite simply, even though GB is fully capable of doing a reaction test type thing, his "whatever, we're lynching town" post when switching his vote back is not in line with that assertion. his complete disregard for the fact that no wagon formed on shining or (more realistically given it's gb) his lack of screaming that trfel was scum for voting shining with him in those lovely association reads things he does as town, makes it clear he wasn't doing the shining wagon for any particular purpose. the correct conclusion for no counterwagon on shining forming is that cool is town, or that trfel is scum trying to get his scummate off if GB still thinks cool is lock scum. he came to no such conclusions. GB is scum lying through his teeth
The PoE'd sicklucker - gotta give it to you, man, your scumgame is improving. problem is, rels and gb are almost definitely scum and if they're scum the only one left who could be is you. sicklucker's lack of interest in the game last day phase supports that, as does his assertion that he read my filter and came up with no reads. sometimes my reads are pretty hidden or not stated directly. but there were list posts so he definitely did not read my filter. one thing sicklucker struggles with as scum and will readily admit is he can't keep his activity up past d1...sound familiar?
TLDR
rels is definitely scum. lynch him tomorrow. gb is probably scum and if you go onto a third day, lynch sicklucker
never lynch rayn, trfel or ls if you do consider shining or moosy, be very very sure
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hey rayn if you're not gonna play give me your vote, kthx ^^ lol
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