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On October 04 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote: I'm sorry, I tried to explain that coolTLname was town.
If I were better at this game I would have been able to explain it.
CoolTLname, I'm sorry. I really tried.
I think that no lynch here might be the right play, actually. Let's go with that.
And I think Rels might get a permanent townread because he's the only person in this game that I've actually enjoyed playing with. I'd rather lose to mafia!Rels than lynch him, honestly.
meh idk
like why is his assumption when a huge post full of fluff gets posted near EoD that the player must be town?
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so...we're down 4
should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN
that's 8 players
5v3...yeah fuck -_-
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more importantly op says mafia can hold their shot
so it's not going to do us much good anyway
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On October 04 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 04 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote: Mafia team is MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining. Possibly rsoultin, but probably not because that would mean that I sort of did something right. I hope it's not LightningStrike.
Final answer, barring a thought or two that I'm keeping to myself. ^^^ Pursue that starting with me please. Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: so...we're down 4
should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN
that's 8 players
5v3...yeah fuck -_- Seriously, how are you so far behind me? You are NEVER behind me. I'm always the one lagging behind you. Okay, you're mafia.
yeah this is a pretty dumb reason to call anyone mafia lol ><
hey you hadn't figured it out in your head beforehand how many lynches were left if damdy got strongarmed during the day! sure scumtell!
if you're being serious about this i'm not really sure what to say -_-
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anyway, we're not lynching me
trfel
shining
rayn
so i just need to find one more townread and we're golden
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On October 04 2015 07:25 Trfel wrote: Ok, here is an ultimatum.
I was right on coolTLname. Everyone else was wrong. Yes Rels, yes rsoultin, this includes you.
Therefore, it seems that I might actually know what I am talking about. That or I have additional information caused by being mafia.
You either lynch me for being mafia, or you actually bother to pay attention to what I say. I will not allow you any middle ground at all. You don't need to sheep me, you just need to read my posts and actually think about it.
If you refuse this ultimatum, then I spam the thread with my personal music preferences.
@.@
i have been listening to you?
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On October 04 2015 07:27 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote: anyway, we're not lynching me
trfel
shining
rayn
so i just need to find one more townread and we're golden Why the shining? Im voting between him and another
because damdy knows shining better than anyone and he was lock sure he was town, because i'm pretty damn sure he's town, and because damdy was definitely town
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oh wait, ls
ls is town, too
but i still need another townread -_- blah there's still 9 of us
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On October 04 2015 07:29 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:24 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:On October 04 2015 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 04 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote: Mafia team is MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining. Possibly rsoultin, but probably not because that would mean that I sort of did something right. I hope it's not LightningStrike.
Final answer, barring a thought or two that I'm keeping to myself. ^^^ Pursue that starting with me please. On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote: so...we're down 4
should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN
that's 8 players
5v3...yeah fuck -_- Seriously, how are you so far behind me? You are NEVER behind me. I'm always the one lagging behind you. Okay, you're mafia. yeah this is a pretty dumb reason to call anyone mafia lol >< hey you hadn't figured it out in your head beforehand how many lynches were left if damdy got strongarmed during the day! sure scumtell! if you're being serious about this i'm not really sure what to say -_- I don't know if you are mafia, but you being mafia would be one of the more frustrating people to be mafia. Therefore, I'm inclined to think that it is true. And I stand by the above argument. I know it's not logical, but I don't care. You are never this slow to think of things (compared to me) as town. Never. Even though as scum you would definitely have already thought of the mislynch count, it makes you mafia. I don't even  Rsoultin, if you are town, please just solve the game  And fricking listen to me, you should know that there is absolutely no way that I am mafia at this point. I don't expect anyone else to know this, but you definitely should. Maybe even trust me, just a little? Please? I'm not as good at explaining things as I must have been in the past 
i'm really not sure why you're posting this to me when i was one of the only ones who was listening to you
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On October 04 2015 07:34 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:32 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 07:31 Trfel wrote:On October 04 2015 07:29 sicklucker wrote: I sapose thats an ok reason but hes been so wrong this game and pretty much single handily lost it for us lol. Like theres another person who I town read all game that sticks out to me now. dont think its smart to say who at night tho So the person who says that the biggest problem with TL Mafia is that people just follow other people's reads and don't come to their own conclusions is now blaming someone else for losing the game? im not saying im following it im saying it makes sense for rsoulin to think that You blamed Damdred for single handedly losing the game for town. @Rsoultin, you listened to me. Fine. Still no trust. Though I suppose I probably don't deserve trust if I'm going to play like this  Read accuracy aside. Fine, The Shining is not mafia because that would mean that I've been too correct.
eh sometimes it's just better for me to stick to my first instincts i think
anyway...i'm gonna split for awhile
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On October 04 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:35 sicklucker wrote: lol who cares why are you trying to draw me into a non game related fight Because I'm annoyed. And because I caught you in a lie. Raynpelikoneet, this makes sicklucker 100% mafia, right? Time to tunnel him to oblivion!
hey. take a chill pill. have a break
come play something with me or something
we'll both attack the thread in the morning maybe...you're not doing any good here with this
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On October 04 2015 07:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote: oh wait, ls
ls is town, too
but i still need another townread -_- blah there's still 9 of us does a blue read count?
not gonna answer this on account of not being an idiot lol
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On October 04 2015 08:26 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, because your filter is so large and I have a horrid memory, why was it that you switched your read on coolTLname from town to scum?
he's been more nullish cause i agreed that the strong townread on me was hella weird but i saw a lot of things coming from him that looked townish
but then he says that he was suspicious of scott when he'd been townreading j roc and had never even mentioned scott before the vote. like just voting scott to save himself wouldn't have seemed weird to me but that did :/
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back to schoolwork honestly @.@ it gets away from me if i don't put in the work on the weekend
also i know at least i need a break from this game. if there's something you want to say, ls, go for it
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On October 04 2015 12:19 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 11:59 sicklucker wrote:On October 04 2015 11:53 LightningStrike wrote: Do you think this game is actually harder than it is after the cool flip? huh? its pretty unwinnable of course its harder we have to lynch 3 scum inarow without more then 1 person voting wrong and no one has similar reads at all. Id say we have a 1/100 chance to pull this out of a hat if not worse. Also of course no ones around its saturday night im ad at myself i even checked the thread I feel like the game is harder than it should be and scum is prob hiding very easily because of the easy mislynches we had :\
we'll see
i'll give reads before flip, but perhaps it's not as hard as it seems
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On October 04 2015 23:27 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote: I'm sorry, I tried to explain that coolTLname was town.
If I were better at this game I would have been able to explain it.
CoolTLname, I'm sorry. I really tried.
I think that no lynch here might be the right play, actually. Let's go with that.
And I think Rels might get a permanent townread because he's the only person in this game that I've actually enjoyed playing with. I'd rather lose to mafia!Rels than lynch him, honestly. meh idk like why is his assumption when a huge post full of fluff gets posted near EoD that the player must be town? OK rsoultin please read the following very carefully. You are a very annoying person to play withYesterday I've made a number of things, things that Trfel that you consider confirmed town kinda did as well; and each time, you found a reason mafia!me would do it. I said I would lynch Shining or Moosy, maybe Shining before Moosy; you thought it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel says he wants to lynch Shining, he's still town. I thought coolTLname as a bused mafia wouldn't make these giant posts before dying; and you think it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel fought for people not to lynch coolTLname, he's still town. Please stop bias confirming every action I make as mafia.
the how is more important than the what, rels. i'm not sure about you. that may bother you but it is what it is. the fact of the matter is that to me truffle is all but confirmed town, both in how he's played the entire game and in how the votes fell when we were the two being pushed for lynch d1
that you don't grasp that i didn't see how your evidence for your shining vs. your evidence for moosy resulted in you wanting to lynch shining first, and that you couldn't explain it to me beyond "he's not posting as much" when just a simple look through the database (if you don't believe the rest of us) would show that shining will never post as much as moosy, is blah
it's unworthy of your intelligence
as for the thing with cool...maybe that's something a town player can see in his post, i don't know. the way you reacted seemed unnatural to me, especially for someone who was apparently so certain that cool was mafia. truffle already that cool was town so from him i can see it more, but for you to completely reverse your read based on a giant "will" post that was no more than summarizing things for pages...
i don't get it
maybe you should explain it instead of whining that i'm not treating you equally when you're not equal with truffle
i knew he was town when he posted it again, because for some unknown reason he thought it was important enough to do so when he was definitely dying, but it looked a lot like a substanceless hail mary to me and i have a hard time seeing people who are scumreading him and aren't purely emotional, surface-level intellect players reacting the way you did
sorry if this comes off condescending. i frankly think it's beneath you, though, and i know you're a very rational person because i coached you
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On October 05 2015 00:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: hey rsoul, want to lynch Rels? :3
why does moosy want to lynch rels, is the better question?
i know why rels wants to lynch you
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On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote: What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now.
-sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look
but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town ><
why does gb get "town points" for saying that cool was town when he's openly admitted that he believed no such thing?
either his cool is town gambit was really a reaction test gambit and he never believed cool was town, and decided not to take into account that a wagon didn't build when he gave people the opportunity to switch
or he's lying about doing a reaction test at all, meant the "cool is town" thing, then went right back to voting him and trying to keep the lynch on him
where are these town points you're talking about?
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On October 05 2015 01:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 23:27 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote: I'm sorry, I tried to explain that coolTLname was town.
If I were better at this game I would have been able to explain it.
CoolTLname, I'm sorry. I really tried.
I think that no lynch here might be the right play, actually. Let's go with that.
And I think Rels might get a permanent townread because he's the only person in this game that I've actually enjoyed playing with. I'd rather lose to mafia!Rels than lynch him, honestly. meh idk like why is his assumption when a huge post full of fluff gets posted near EoD that the player must be town? OK rsoultin please read the following very carefully. You are a very annoying person to play withYesterday I've made a number of things, things that Trfel that you consider confirmed town kinda did as well; and each time, you found a reason mafia!me would do it. I said I would lynch Shining or Moosy, maybe Shining before Moosy; you thought it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel says he wants to lynch Shining, he's still town. I thought coolTLname as a bused mafia wouldn't make these giant posts before dying; and you think it was scummy. But when "confirmed town" Trfel fought for people not to lynch coolTLname, he's still town. Please stop bias confirming every action I make as mafia. the how is more important than the what, rels. i'm not sure about you. that may bother you but it is what it is. the fact of the matter is that to me truffle is all but confirmed town, both in how he's played the entire game and in how the votes fell when we were the two being pushed for lynch d1 that you don't grasp that i didn't see how your evidence for your shining vs. your evidence for moosy resulted in you wanting to lynch shining first, and that you couldn't explain it to me beyond "he's not posting as much" when just a simple look through the database (if you don't believe the rest of us) would show that shining will never post as much as moosy, is blah it's unworthy of your intelligence as for the thing with cool...maybe that's something a town player can see in his post, i don't know. the way you reacted seemed unnatural to me, especially for someone who was apparently so certain that cool was mafia. truffle already that cool was town so from him i can see it more, but for you to completely reverse your read based on a giant "will" post that was no more than summarizing things for pages... i don't get it maybe you should explain it instead of whining that i'm not treating you equally when you're not equal with truffle i knew he was town when he posted it again, because for some unknown reason he thought it was important enough to do so when he was definitely dying, but it looked a lot like a substanceless hail mary to me and i have a hard time seeing people who are scumreading him and aren't purely emotional, surface-level intellect players reacting the way you did sorry if this comes off condescending. i frankly think it's beneath you, though, and i know you're a very rational person because i coached you OK you're going to have explain very carefully why my lynch order is important when it concerns two people that are not being lynched right now. Especially since I voted Moosy over Shining at deadline, and I was ready to vote for the both of them. You're wrong about the "active" stuff. Relative to their style, I feel like Shining is much more quiet than Moosy. Not talking about filter length here, but activity. You're wrong about the coolTLname stuff being too sudden too. I have a post near deadline where I admitted that he was actually not a lurker reader; it was a comment on his that made me think that, when he said "that's bullshit I actually tried to read a game and I didn't even get past 1 page". It's too real to be false. So my scumread on him was lessen by that + Trfel and GB (and marv D1) repeating all day that we were definitely lynching a townie.
i'm not going to have to explain anything very carefully
i had a theory that you and moosy might be scum together...it was even mentioned before. that your evidence on moosy seemed to be stronger than your evidence on shining, but you still wanted to lynch shining first over "activity" which generally means filter length, and you still refused to lynch anyone but cool, seemed off to me
and yes, moosy, this was why i asked you about rels. i was trying to see if the scumreads you two had on each other were reads you were actually willing to act on
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On October 05 2015 01:37 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 01:35 rsoultin wrote:On October 04 2015 06:24 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:22 coolTLname wrote:On October 04 2015 06:09 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: Meh we are definitely hitting a townie
Whatever I don't think so On October 04 2015 06:20 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 06:18 Damdred wrote: What changed gbs mind from hard scum reading cool to town reading him The fact that everybody is OK lynching him, and that a bus for two days is unlikely And u think a bus for two days is likely? A bus day 1 as well? No I think it's unlikely. Actually that's why I switched yesterday. But my scumread on you is stronger than this idea now. -sighs- you know tbh rels i kind of had been hoping i was wrong when i went back to look but this was your last post about cool before he posted the wall. clearly you reacted to his post and you're misrepresenting your play now, and while inconsistency is not something exclusive to mafia players, when describing your own read progression and thought process i find it very hard to believe you don't remember that his post was what made you think he was town >< why does gb get "town points" for saying that cool was town when he's openly admitted that he believed no such thing? either his cool is town gambit was really a reaction test gambit and he never believed cool was town, and decided not to take into account that a wagon didn't build when he gave people the opportunity to switch or he's lying about doing a reaction test at all, meant the "cool is town" thing, then went right back to voting him and trying to keep the lynch on him where are these town points you're talking about? I was talking about this post: Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 05:37 Rels wrote:On October 04 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote: Oh god , rels is scum reading me for the worst reasons. First it was because im a smurf LOL? i think everyone here would laugh at that. and then Im a lurker reader? Do u even know how boring just reading a game is? I admit i have tried it , but barely got past 1 page.
LS seemed pretty relax when i posted earlier about what ppl do for a living , he was like Yeapp i was watching worlds and shit..
GB is super chill
and it would be super sick if SL was mafia but i think i just want that to be true so i wont comment
And the damdred CC is still pretty suspicious, he also just pops in and out while always being present in thread, not sure if thats obvious from just reading his filter.
I'd say Rels damdred and GB
and if rayn is scum then.. not sure GB and damdred?
OK. Even if coolTLname is not a lurker reader, I cannot believe this medic bait can possible comes from town. Especially one who has play a newbie here before
that's a strong scumread and you already said in the post that i quoted that the bussing d1 and marv's opinion weren't enough and you still thought he was scum
"lessened" or not, you were not discussing other lynches despite having scumreads, and you still reacted oddly to a large post of nothing
i could understand it if cool posted an actual will, but he didn't
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