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On October 02 2015 14:15 Trfel wrote:
I don't care for this discussion at all because I think that coolTLname is probably town.
Rsoultin, I don't seem to be able to convey anything to you so far today, I'd rather wait until we both get a chance to rest before I try again. I don't have anything new to say at this moment, just rephrasing things I've already said....
MoosyDoosy, of course my post was made with the assumption that coolTLname was town. I actually said that in the post. Congratulations.
I would just really appreciate it if raynpelikoneet and coolTLname stop this argument because it is going absolutely nowhere and is a nightmare to read. Whatever points you guys are trying to make have been made a million times over and you aren't going to convince each other.
i asked you specifically what your question regarding GB was, directly after you asked me about it
and you pissed off
so why don't you start there?
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or not that works too ^^ i can't really stay up that much longer waiting for you to respond to me in 20 minute intervals
perhaps you should just leave it in thread or something or assume i'll pick it up when i read your filter, i dunnae
toodles
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On October 02 2015 14:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 14:17 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
ye okay lol nite
an ignored rsoul is an uninterested rsoul
rayn, assuming you're town, post-game we really need to talk @.@ i'm getting really tired of you tunneling me every game yeah we can talk all you want. it doesn't change the fact you still have zero scumreads and still don't have a read on me. -shrugs- you're right. i'm not giving out reads before i do my analysis, which you already know refer to my how rsoul plays mafia post ^^ not going to just rattle off "reads" because the almighty rayn demands them  besides which, my opinions are in thread sure enough. i'll get to making them so clear an infant couldn't mistake it after i review things yes and instead of "revisiting things" as you call it you continue to post something completely different. Not to even remind you have been "reviewing the things" - especially regarding me - for the past 72 hours.
???
rayn. i already broke down the timeline
- reads including marv as a scumread
- wake up to wagon on me
- defending myself + trying to determine alignments of those on my wagon
- schoolwork i put off during the 7-9 hours i was defending myself
- school
when exactly did you expect me to review anything? i've been following the thread peripherally since i woke up from my nap and while reading the material for tomorrow's class
like you could claim i'm lying, but can we at least agree that if i'm not (and i'm not) there's no time for me to have done any of the things you're demanding?
not to mention i've already said
tomorrow
night
like ages ago at EoD
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On October 02 2015 14:22 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 14:18 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 14:15 Trfel wrote:
I don't care for this discussion at all because I think that coolTLname is probably town.
Rsoultin, I don't seem to be able to convey anything to you so far today, I'd rather wait until we both get a chance to rest before I try again. I don't have anything new to say at this moment, just rephrasing things I've already said....
MoosyDoosy, of course my post was made with the assumption that coolTLname was town. I actually said that in the post. Congratulations.
I would just really appreciate it if raynpelikoneet and coolTLname stop this argument because it is going absolutely nowhere and is a nightmare to read. Whatever points you guys are trying to make have been made a million times over and you aren't going to convince each other. i asked you specifically what your question regarding GB was, directly after you asked me about it and you pissed off so why don't you start there? I need some clue as to how you could possibly make the read that you made about GlowingBear. "I reread and changed my mind" is okay, but I still don't understand how you arrived at the initial conclusion in the first place. And I still have no idea whatsoever how sicklucker's posts on J Roc early on justified a townread of him, since they seemed very boring to me and were based on him misinterpreting something.
my impression was that he was hyperfocused on what went on in the thread very early. he keyed in on what you posted in the very first hours of the day phase, and i didn't remember him pushing or responding to much of anything else. i was wrong on that. he seemed pretty apathetic to me near EoD except after i mentioned he was apathetic, then he went to cool but still didn't really push it while lingering in the thread
it was the mindset, not what he was saying, truffle. you know i'm a tonereader. self-centered reads, as i've responded to you the five other times you've asked this question, seem more townie to me than otherwise. i'm not the only one who read sicklucker town around that time. clearly it's not just a tina-ism to think that his approach to j roc looked townie
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On October 02 2015 14:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
in that case, i think the better thing to do would have said your excuse then just concentrated on schoolwork. Not do this cluttering the thread which is kind of annoying tbh.
you probably have a valid point ^^ i'm a bit of an addict
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On October 02 2015 14:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm.. for me it seems like you have been making exactly 30 posts after the deadline.
You also have been here for the past 7,5 hours ALL THE TIME, not counting ~2 hours inbetween there,
that would, in my opinion give you a good 5,5 hours to actually do this "review".
But, i guess i can't expect you to do it because making 30 posts about something you cannot be even sure about (because you are unsure about the events in the game as per your OWN words) is fair then.....
yes rsoultin, that sounds very fucking convenient to me.
did you miss the part where i'm still doing schoolwork?
i was actually trying to get cool to talk, tbh. i didn't want him giving up if he's town
maybe it sounds convenient for you but it wasn't purposeless -shrugs- this conversation is kind of pointless, though. if you're determined to not believe a word i say you can just wait for the analysis to either read or not read and push me blindly at your leisure ^^
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On October 02 2015 14:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 14:33 rsoultin wrote:
did you miss the part where i'm still doing schoolwork?
I didn't. As i said this just doesn't look like doing schoolwork. It doesn't look like playing mafia, as town, either. It doesn't look like anything because again, you aren't doing anything that can be considered productive. now is sleep time. it's already too late.
look, i think you're town, and if you are...give me room. you don't want to lynch me today anyway
seriously, unless you're talking to me about reads
give me room and stop riding me. telling me my reads are useless, that i'm not doing anything productive, that i haven't done anything productive, is frustrating in the extreme and at least entertain the notion that if i'm town you've effectively been chipping away at my desire to help town for the last few days
i find it productive to keep people talking if they look like they're giving up. i'm sorry that you don't. but your opinion isn't very constructive right now
thank you
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rayn, are you willing to hear me out about the j roc, damdy thing, or would i be wasting my breath and should go back to the research paper?
also, gb, if you think rayn is on the wrong track, do you have someone else you want to lynch? you've mentioned twice now that he could be wrong without providing an alternative (unless i'm misrecollecting and then yes people can yell at me again for posting while distracted lol ><)
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well regardless of what you answer rayn regarding that, the truth of the matter is that when you wanted to lynch me
i was going to be lynched
when you wanted to lynch scott
scott was going to be lynched
when you wanted a cool lynch
cool was going to be lynched
when damdy cc'd and you and i started calling for vote switches
scott was lynched
and now again when you want cool to be lynched
he is going to be lynched
the evidence here does not point to any lack of thread pull, rayn. whether or not you think you're being taken as seriously as you think that you deserve to be, and how many times in the past people have not paid attention to you notwithstanding, i see no reason for any mafia team to assume that you would not be listened to here
gb has a point
if cool is scum, scum is happy to buss (tbf, i do believe that if he's scum, scum probably would be happy to buss under these circumstances)
do you understand what i'm saying, rayn?
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On October 02 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your first two sentences proved your post wrong.
how so?
maybe you didn't notice, but when you were enjoining gb to vote for me when he switched to cool, i was already leading the votes with 4 votes. the next person was 3
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On October 02 2015 21:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:14 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 21:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your first two sentences proved your post wrong. how so? maybe you didn't notice, but when you were enjoining gb to vote for me when he switched to cool, i was already leading the votes with 4 votes. the next person was 3 Hmm maybe you didn't notice but when MARV wanted you lynched, you were getting lynched.
marv really wasn't pushing me after my explanation, rayn. he even said i could be town. so -shrugs- and this doesn't negate the rest of it even if you think your pushing me had no effect
it certainly had an effect with scott and cool
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On October 02 2015 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When MARV said "if you feel so strongly about scott i will sheep you", scott was getting lynched.
okay well i'm not going to argue with you if you're determined to argue for the sake of arguing
i think today is also a good example of you having thread pull but i'm sure you'll find a way to say you don't when we keep lynching the people you want to lynch lol ><
-goes back to paper-
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On October 02 2015 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin do you even think about why certain things happen in this game?
saying i was the main reason you were getting lynched is just straight out bullshit.
considering marv said he was uncertain and stopped trying to push people to lynch me long before you stopped your crusade to pursue scott instead, while waving the flag of his "certainty"?
it's open to interpretation, i think lol ><
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anyway the point is gb's point isn't invalid and i'm not gonna keep talking to a wall :/
gb, please, if you think that we're going down the wrong path, where do you want to go?
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On October 02 2015 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ofc you are gonna say so because you are scum.
^^ this time you can't claim sarcasm. just calling me scum when you don't have a response is childish
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On October 02 2015 21:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:22 rsoultin wrote:
anyway the point is gb's point isn't invalid and i'm not gonna keep talking to a wall :/
gb, please, if you think that we're going down the wrong path, where do you want to go? I think we are hitting Mafia when killing cool but we may be wrong with LS and you. And I am asking him to listen to you more instead of incriminate and don't reevaluate you. That's all. Rayn I'm having lunch with parents, will soon address to your post
eh it's fine
if he doesn't read my analyses later and just screams i'm scum from his tunnel, then he can be chastised
it's true that i haven't done it yet lol
you should reason with him for me since he's decided not to listen to me
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On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.
Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim?
yes
i can see why it bugs you, but if you can't see that i was townreading you before your blind tunnel on me and that that tunnel when you'd been pushing scott might have an effect on how i was reading you, i'm not really sure how to make you see it
you saw how i struggled with palmar's alignment in gaiden 2 even though i originally thought he was pretty town, when he decided just to tunnel me -shrugs-
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On October 02 2015 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw i was being really fucking reasonable at least during N1 towards that guy.
I tried, he threw it out of the window. So yeah, there is that.
eh it's your approach i think, rayn, tbh, not specifically what you're saying
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On October 02 2015 21:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin i have one simple yes/no question to you.
Do you think it's reasonable that you have been flip-flopping about my alignment for the whole game when you yourself repeatedly say you need to re-read me (and do nothing about it -- but STILL change your read on me from time to time?!?!?), say you are gonna do that re-read now (or as the next thing -- yes i can prove that), and you are supposed to be the "best player in this game (besides marv)" in reading me, as you yourself claim? yes i can see why it bugs you, but if you can't see that i was townreading you before your blind tunnel on me and that that tunnel when you'd been pushing scott might have an effect on how i was reading you, i'm not really sure how to make you see it you saw how i struggled with palmar's alignment in gaiden 2 even though i originally thought he was pretty town, when he decided just to tunnel me -shrugs-
down under 2 my bad
the last one with ows
anyway!
i'm gonna stop posting now sorry guys lol ><
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On October 02 2015 21:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 12:44 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 12:34 coolTLname wrote:
Wait it jsut occured to me that Marv would have been killed for a reason. I think u all assume .. well fuck it marvs rly good but he might have said something that really incriminated mafia so they killed him off. Regardless there must be a reason they thought he was so smart to kill n1, he proved it somehow marvellosity is hands down one of the best players on the site. he was universally townread...and i don't really recall him pushing anything in particular? though this is back to murky memory here assuming that this is correct, what his night kill suggests if anything is that scum is very comfortable with the atmosphere of the thread right now. which suggests to me that either you're town or scum is happy to buss the living shit out of you and has given you up for dead nk analysis isn't terribly strong this early in the game, tbh lol you dont remember him pushing you super hard? now your posting scummy again
at the time of his death he clearly thought i was town, sicklucker. please keep context in mind
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