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On October 02 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:On October 02 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up. On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read. how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you? I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter. You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for. Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR. that's nit picking, he surely meant that rsoultin have the most posts in the game Not nit picking. It might have been nit picking if it was someone else but Marv has a sizeable filter, reads and a case on RSo and cool chose to call him irrelevant instead of giving a read on him. So he's ignoring another active big filter but towning RSo for it.
so honestly when you first brought this up i figured eh...to expect a new player to go through marv's past games is kinda ridonculous and he didn't actually say he would
then he went through mine, so i get where you're coming from with this
tbf though, i don't actually find it particularly scummy to concentrate on lynch wagons and try to push for consolidation rather than going every which way? like maybe i'm reading it wrong, but calling marv irrelevant when you're pushing for consolidation makes sense in that context (not in a general one)
am i making sense?
his certainty on me is the offputting thing, really
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anyway y'all seem to be in the middle of something and i'm not in a position to figure out what exactly it is, so i'm going to disappear back into the ether until i have time to reread
i'm also not going to answer rayn anymore unless others want me to clarify something he's posted/answer his accusations because you agree with them
i don't think it's productive
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So I doubt I die tonight, but whatever. Weirder things have happened.
Damdred and marv are town. They're like the only reads I'm close to being 100% sure on. I don't see y'all lynching marv but I will beat you from the ether if you lynch Damdy, especially once I've flipped whenever that ends up being.
The rest of this is pre reread and should be taken less as gospel and more as where was Tina at?
Shining and Rels I feel pretty good about. It's possible to be wrong on them, Rels more than Shining I think, but their approach to the game is pretty evenhanded and analytical and I think that's pretty damn townie.
After I flip don't sleep on Trfel? This may change after I read his filter but currently I'm not sure about him.
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.
Everyone else I think I want to take a hard look at before I comment on them. I'm still not sure why Moosy was so sideline (not just during marv's push on me as he claims) most of the day, and I'm still iffy on cool cause apart from the hard defend I can see most of his play coming from newbie town quite easily.
Also feeling GB is more likely town than scum, and LS as well, based on really hard to define feels.
+ Show Spoiler +If mafia would either shoot me or a town rayn if he actually is town, I'd be very grateful <3
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On October 02 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Hi guys I think it's pretty likely I'm dying at this point so it is the best idea to leave a will behind.
Top Town:
Marv
Shining
Rayn
My top two reads should be pretty much set in stone, Marv cares this game involved pushing people. Shining is emotional rational and involved. Rayn looks incredibly towny during night phase and eod, I think he's pre try lock town.
Pretty sold town
Trfel
No way that travel is scum, firstly eod us super towny. If you think that tl is scum has to be town.
Maybe town
Moosey
Rels
Rsoultin
Rsoultin
This is weakest town reads now, I 100% didn't reread rsouktins filter due to length. I stand by my initial read as Town because as town she craves town reads and tells people they are dumb for not doing so or acts disappointed. As scum she works more towards a town read without acting surprised. But I want to hedge since she hedged on me which is weird for her and makes me weary and the Marv switch
Rels was ok eod but just don't know some things I could see coming from town but as scum as well.
Shining pointed out on things against moose and makes me,want to be wary slightly. Not as chaotic and is in more control.
Cooltl is probably scum for weird posts that reek of Tim.
Gb is strange but I'm 50/50 lack of survived instinct and such leaves,me torn.
Idk about s either, but anyone in the may be down I would look at after cool
:/
with all the other frustrations this game, damdy, this just made me sad
i never hedged on you
but whatever
i'm taking a nap now lol ><
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On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.
kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote.
this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3
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On October 02 2015 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
Please don't sleep on rayn, either. His broad strokes scumread of me is not really that similar to the way he normally tunnels a player for very specific things. Most of his points are completely subjective or completely false.
kindly, shut the fuck up when you have not even read what i have wrote. this post kinda sounds like you think i'm town <3 no, it sounds like you somehow think i am mafia when you haven't even gone through the thread properly, you have MULTIPLE times said you have to re-evaluate your read on me, you have MULTIPLE times said you are going to re-read me, and NEVER did that. Yet, still, you cannot precisely call me NEITHER town NOR mafia, but you still kinda call me mafia anyways... So go fucking do the read you have been saying you are doing for the past three days. Go do it now. And make the fucking read instead of flip-flopping on every single fucking thing in this game.
no. i'm taking a nap ^^
and i'm doing a reread tomorrow night as i said before. i have more important things than mafia to do, but as i was doing things in my limited time, yes, i posted it
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On October 02 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:Rsoultin, you do realize that there's no point reading my filter because if you scumread me then you will be lynched, 100%  Especially since I told you the best way to read me, and it's probably the most applicable in this game over any other in the past six months. And I really don't like you constantly avoiding me on the GlowingBear issue, even now. I still have no idea how GlowingBear's posts can possibly be seen the way you described them? Can you help me out, at least a little?
i don't remember what you're talking about in terms of how to read you truffle so um...okay?
i don't know what you're talking about, avoiding you, either. i thought i answered all your questions?
i'm really not sure what you're referring to given i already said that in going back through gb's filter he was much more reactive and i think i was wrong on my read? what am i missing?
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On October 02 2015 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am really fucking mad at you Tine if you are town in this game.
Hopefully i don't have to.
i am town so if you're town you can be mad at me, but know that half the problem is the way you tunneled me cause i find it pretty impossible to do much under those conditions
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i just posted a reads post and he says i have no reads
meh
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anyway yeah
nap
yes i've been having trouble finding scum this game and it's why i started looking at my townreads again in the first place, which led to the read flip on marv and the tunnel
i spent somewhere between 7-9 hours both explaining this over and over, and trying to figure out if the people jumping on my wagon were scum or not
then i wrote the paper and did the presentation prep i should have been doing in those 7-9 hours and slept a grand total of 2 before going to class all day
so no. i haven't reread. i won't before tomorrow night cause i still have another paper to write
and yes i have a lot of question marks and bookmarked things
kindly talk about something else until i come back tomorrow night. or don't. you can waste your time talking about me still and making bad associative reads off a scum flip that's never going to happen
but i won't address anything before then
toodles
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On October 02 2015 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 07:17 rsoultin wrote:
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i just posted a reads post and he says i have no reads
meh your reads are not reads. and you call my evidence "completely subjective". Like i can't even express what i would want to write here. I have a townread on Damdred and marv. The rest of my "reads" i have to re-evaluate when i am gonna do my re-read." We sure do know what your re-evaluation looks like right? Like you can do a full 180 or even a 720 if you feel like it, for no fucking reason. So by default, you managed to produce TWO reads on 10 people. And again, this is after having posted 25 pages of filter.
someone explain to rayn that the explicit use of the word "town" and the word "scum" is not the only thing that can denote a read
thank you ^^
really gone now
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-sighs-
he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn
between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch
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On October 02 2015 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-
he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn
between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch HAHAHAHAHAH! that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed.
...that doesn't appear to be what he's arguing? he appears to be arguing that he was fine with being lynched over me when he originally got the 7 votes but was happy to vote for scott after damdred cc'd...what are you pushing him for exactly?
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On October 02 2015 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:46 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 07:41 rsoultin wrote:
-sighs-
he did have 7 votes on him before damdred cc'd scott, rayn
between the time scott claim and damdred cc'd he had 7 votes on him. i remember because i wasn't sure enough would switch HAHAHAHAHAH! that's not what he is arguing though, he is arguing he had 7 voted before scott claimed. ...that doesn't appear to be what he's arguing? he appears to be arguing that he was fine with being lynched over me when he originally got the 7 votes but was happy to vote for scott after damdred cc'd...what are you pushing him for exactly? read the thread.
i just glanced over his filter lol where do you think i got this from? my ass?
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On October 02 2015 07:32 coolTLname wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:no, not really. i don't waste my time on bullshit. maybe you should go back to playing sc2mafia where reading the game and understanding what people say consists of simple one-liner messages like "i claim this role" or "my check on X is Y", and not thought processes and several other things like thinking what another person thinks and if it is motivated from what faction. I literally have no interest in proving your completely lie statements lies, over and over again. Anyone who reads the thread knows they are just plain out lies. But let me give you an example, just because it doesn't take more than a minute of my time that i consider more valuably used on other things than talking with you: i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. Here is a post where scott claimed: On October 01 2015 05:39 scott31337 wrote:
I can't break Rayn's tunnel - and I really was hoping to get some use out of this before day 2 - I had planned an end of the day list post - but with Strongman I'm pretty fucked anyway.
I'm a one shot Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey.
I'm hard claiming. Here is the votecount at that time: On October 01 2015 05:11 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Recall List rsoultin (2): Trfel, Rels, scott31337 GlowingBear (3): rsoultin, Damdred, coolTLname Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, scott31337, LightningStrike, sicklucker coolTLname (3): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy raynpelikoneet (1): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy Rels (0): rsoultinmarvellosity (0): rsoultin, Damdred, MoosyDoosyMoosyDoosy (0): marvellosityscott31337 (3): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, sickluckerNot listing (1): The Shining Now you can go back and look at your sentence again. Then you can go back and read what happened AFTER scott claimed. Votes piled up on you. You are literally just lying unless you think "last minute" means 1,5 hour before the deadline and unless you think 7 = 3. thank you for your time. On October 02 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am waiting for you to prove the statement 7 = 3 because otherwise you are a liar and as per your own definition should be lynched. coolTLname i am waiting for your answer to this.Not because it would change anything, just because i think this is hilarious.  Almost as hilarious as asking that one dude what his read on himself is. and im still waiting on your answer to literally lying 7 times because u forgot *cough* didn't read the thread. Everyone can remember the 7 votes being on me until scott claimed tracker and then damdred counterclaiming so all you're doing is distracting from your own lies.scott claiming tracker had absolutely nothing to do with me being lynched, i don't even know why you're nit picking over timestamps? Whereas you just totally missed tons of information , like not knowing rsoultin was a lynch candidate when she was up for for hours, with Trfel. It looked like she would be lynched.
ah this is where he said what you're screaming at him over
okay
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On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.
This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now. This is what i was arguing about, HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!?
i found the other time thank you rayn
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On October 02 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.
This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now. This is what i was arguing about, HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!? i found the other time thank you rayn mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time? somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina.
this isn't why i was townreading cool and i haven't been townreading him for quite some time?
like i get that you're saying TINA YOU'RE MISSING POSTS IN A 130 PAGE GAME
but you know
so are you. and so is everyone
nor can i remember everything that everyone has ever said just like everyone else in this game can't remember everything
i just don't like to see people screaming at each other over misunderstandings. clearly i was wrong. carry on
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the tmi thing is really pretty strong. i don't know why he's so certain i'm town when no one else seems to be (with the exception of damdy maybe lol >< but he's allowed and so is shining to some extent, as they both know me <3)
i just don't see a lot of the other arguments as not being possible from newbie town
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On October 02 2015 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 07:55 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:On October 02 2015 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:
i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7.
This is what he originally said. I don't care what he says now. This is what i was arguing about, HOW FUCKING BIG SHOULD I MAKE IT FOR YOU FOR IT TO BE OBVIOUS??!?!?!?!? i found the other time thank you rayn mmm now my question to you is, why do you miss this simple stuff all the time? somehow you cannot produce a read on that guy, in fact as i remember you called him town because "he is new" (which is btw not a reason to read anyone anything). You just conveniently miss too much stuff Tina. this isn't why i was townreading cool and i haven't been townreading him for quite some time? like i get that you're saying TINA YOU'RE MISSING POSTS IN A 130 PAGE GAME but you know so are you. and so is everyone nor can i remember everything that everyone has ever said just like everyone else in this game can't remember everything i just don't like to see people screaming at each other over misunderstandings. clearly i was wrong. carry on First of all his behavior or how he comes to conclusion on hi "reads" haven't changed since the beginning of the game. Second, ofc people are missing stuff. Somehow you just miss ALL the stuff i am writing (while telling you can't have a read on me)...... third, also somehow... somehowsomehow, you pick some irrelevant posts and make dumb conclusions about them without investigating into the matter further BEFORE you make the dumb conclusion (or argument -- like here, like with your comment on Damdred early on. If you actually read what i was talking about there, you would see that Damdred's comment was in fact 100% factually INCORRECT [i]when you DON'T take it out of context, but instead see the context where is was posted in[/]i). So yeah, i guess my suspicions of you are "totally unfounded". rofl.
i can see you thinking they're founded, for what it's worth?
a lot of times i find your pushes on small things...not as alignment indicative as you believe them to be and kinda fuzz them out when you keep rehashing them, tbh. maybe not the best way to do things but i can't help it lol ><
and yeah i've skimmed on 2 hours of sleep everything in the last...12...hours? so -shrugs-
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On October 02 2015 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 08:00 rsoultin wrote:
the tmi thing is really pretty strong. i don't know why he's so certain i'm town
because he doesn't want to lynch a scumbuddy.-
this sort of thing is going to make me stop talking to you again
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