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On October 01 2015 02:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:10 Damdred wrote:
Here's why GB could be scum, lets tllak about it.
1) Is pretty focused on one or two things without having a true freedom of movement jumping around.
2) While its true GB has a scum read does not really push it instead telling Marv good point and leaving the thread without doing any work.
3)) never in our playing together has GB dropped a read on me like he did when RS told him I was town. Just weird progression on GB in general.
4) Pretty lackluster thread orescrnse and is happy not to be in the lime light unlike usual it feels. I disagree with your fourth point. GlowingBear has seemed largely present to me (well, when he's here anyway, which is often enough). And it does feel like he's very willing to get attention. Maybe he's not quite as involved as he normally is as town, but he's on vacation. The way he posts feels exactly the same, even if the quantity/activity isn't quite there (it's close, though). I find it much more reasonable that he is town on vacation rather than mafia.
i don't agree? it's not that he's not here, it's that he's not fiery. do you disagree with that?
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On October 01 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:13 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:10 Damdred wrote:
Here's why GB could be scum, lets tllak about it.
1) Is pretty focused on one or two things without having a true freedom of movement jumping around.
2) While its true GB has a scum read does not really push it instead telling Marv good point and leaving the thread without doing any work.
3)) never in our playing together has GB dropped a read on me like he did when RS told him I was town. Just weird progression on GB in general.
4) Pretty lackluster thread orescrnse and is happy not to be in the lime light unlike usual it feels. also while i don't find it impossible for gb to think that one game was the exception and being angry still makes you mafia, i find it very very unlikely he also said he'd push marv if i flipped town -_- for diverting the lynch off trfel I forgot this point and its good. GB should care about his lynch more than Marv he's like a battering ram trying to get his way
exactly
like there was a post...um...damn i really need to stop talking from memory
but a post where he's like no one is listening to me anyway boohoo so i won't try which actually does smack of something town GB would say, but when he does say it, correct me if i'm wrong, it sounds extremely frustrated and takes on a fuck you elitest vets why won't you listen to me?! quality...while this was just whiny
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On October 01 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
hey truffle my question wasn't for kicks and giggles
what's the point of even asking me whether or not we could be scum together? -_- we'd both know that and rayn used it to completely get me off topic cause i have no self-control @.@ and need to find some I already answered this.... I still do not understand why we can't be mafia together at all. If you are saying that we can't be mafia together, and there is no reason for this claim, then I think that you are mafia. In case you missed my previous post, I don't think that your explanation makes sense because your townread on me this game and last game (when we were both town) is about the same, and you reversed it to a scumread there. Your townread on me here isn't a completely hard townread like you claim it is, and you have room to change it. Plus you could not bus me here unless you wanted to do so before the wagon on you started, which wouldn't be a good play.
okay?
you just said that you thought i couldn't reverse my read given my townread earlier, and now you're claiming i'm not hard townreading you?
like i really don't get this, truffle. i'm not scum so by definition we can't be bussing each other.
by definition.
you are either scum and know that i'm not scum
or you are town and know that we're not both scum
like literally, to you, we can never be bussing each other either way, and i don't see why you're pursuing this if you're town? there is 100% reason that we're not mafia together and that's that i'm not mafia and either way you know we're not mafia together
like wtf ><
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On October 01 2015 02:21 coolTLname wrote:
Moosyy we can free rayn next day ok? <3
nh
eh, like...if truffle's town cool doing this doesn't make much sense from mafia, and i think truffle's town?
but why do you think truffle and i are solid town?
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On October 01 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote:
Not really meta strictly its just how you are approaching the game. But its a bit laughable how you try to get reads on me then complain about broken meta My read on you is not based on meta and it's boring that you and rsoultin are focusing on a thing I'm not accusing you of since the first 6 hours of the game. I've repeatedly said that, I'm getting exhausted from saying that again. I AM NOT SCUM READING DAMDRED FOR HIS REACTIONMaybe in bold people will know And if you say "town GB acts in this particular way and he isn't doing it here" it is meta
the point GB is scum damdred LITERALLY NEVER gets mad or pouts as scum in my experience and your little bit of nothing should never outweigh that when you're fully aware he's an emotional robot as scum
i'm not saying you're scumreading him for it; i'm saying you ignoring it is scummy cause you know better
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On October 01 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:21 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
hey truffle my question wasn't for kicks and giggles
what's the point of even asking me whether or not we could be scum together? -_- we'd both know that and rayn used it to completely get me off topic cause i have no self-control @.@ and need to find some I already answered this.... I still do not understand why we can't be mafia together at all. If you are saying that we can't be mafia together, and there is no reason for this claim, then I think that you are mafia. In case you missed my previous post, I don't think that your explanation makes sense because your townread on me this game and last game (when we were both town) is about the same, and you reversed it to a scumread there. Your townread on me here isn't a completely hard townread like you claim it is, and you have room to change it. Plus you could not bus me here unless you wanted to do so before the wagon on you started, which wouldn't be a good play. okay? you just said that you thought i couldn't reverse my read given my townread earlier, and now you're claiming i'm not hard townreading you? like i really don't get this, truffle. i'm not scum so by definition we can't be bussing each other. by definition. you are either scum and know that i'm not scum or you are town and know that we're not both scum like literally, to you, we can never be bussing each other either way, and i don't see why you're pursuing this if you're town? there is 100% reason that we're not mafia together and that's that i'm not mafia and either way you know we're not mafia together like wtf >< Oh, sorry, I see what you're saying. You can't reverse your read on me here after you get votes on you. That would result in you being lynched. It would be extremely opportunistic. If this wagon had never happened, then you could have reversed your read on me. You said that Rels is mafia because he switched his vote from me (his scumread) to you, who can't be mafia with me (from Rels' perspective). That is why this is important.
ooooohhh
i was saying from his perspective? like he literally said when he voted we couldn't be scum together, so dropping his case on you to pursue me seemed pretty damn weird at the time
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On October 01 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay, but dead serious. I need my townie circle to get themselves together and be one with me. rsoul, you promised your re-read on rayn. Rather than continuing to post, I recommend you actually do that. For everyone else, I actually want them to read the argument between rayn and rsoul and then tell me what they notice strange about it.
Just give me a few hours and all will be good rayn.
lol okay but he's pissing me off so much right now i don't trust myself >< i think i'll step away for a bit, ignore the thread, then post after going through his filter without reading the posts in between...only way this possibly would work -_-
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On October 01 2015 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:26 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:On October 01 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote:
Not really meta strictly its just how you are approaching the game. But its a bit laughable how you try to get reads on me then complain about broken meta My read on you is not based on meta and it's boring that you and rsoultin are focusing on a thing I'm not accusing you of since the first 6 hours of the game. I've repeatedly said that, I'm getting exhausted from saying that again. I AM NOT SCUM READING DAMDRED FOR HIS REACTIONMaybe in bold people will know And if you say "town GB acts in this particular way and he isn't doing it here" it is meta the point GB is scum damdred LITERALLY NEVER gets mad or pouts as scum in my experience and your little bit of nothing should never outweigh that when you're fully aware he's an emotional robot as scum i'm not saying you're scumreading him for it; i'm saying you ignoring it is scummy cause you know better And you're ignoring that he is well aware of that trait and he may have faked it? Like I tried to do the ADHD last game I was scum?
it would be the first time he did it successfully. i'll grant you that you may possibly maybe believe this and you may not be scum for it, but no, damdred isn't faking and it's obvious
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yeah okay i'm not lynching cool -_-
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On October 01 2015 02:34 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:28 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 02:21 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
hey truffle my question wasn't for kicks and giggles
what's the point of even asking me whether or not we could be scum together? -_- we'd both know that and rayn used it to completely get me off topic cause i have no self-control @.@ and need to find some I already answered this.... I still do not understand why we can't be mafia together at all. If you are saying that we can't be mafia together, and there is no reason for this claim, then I think that you are mafia. In case you missed my previous post, I don't think that your explanation makes sense because your townread on me this game and last game (when we were both town) is about the same, and you reversed it to a scumread there. Your townread on me here isn't a completely hard townread like you claim it is, and you have room to change it. Plus you could not bus me here unless you wanted to do so before the wagon on you started, which wouldn't be a good play. okay? you just said that you thought i couldn't reverse my read given my townread earlier, and now you're claiming i'm not hard townreading you? like i really don't get this, truffle. i'm not scum so by definition we can't be bussing each other. by definition. you are either scum and know that i'm not scum or you are town and know that we're not both scum like literally, to you, we can never be bussing each other either way, and i don't see why you're pursuing this if you're town? there is 100% reason that we're not mafia together and that's that i'm not mafia and either way you know we're not mafia together like wtf >< Oh, sorry, I see what you're saying. You can't reverse your read on me here after you get votes on you. That would result in you being lynched. It would be extremely opportunistic. If this wagon had never happened, then you could have reversed your read on me. You said that Rels is mafia because he switched his vote from me (his scumread) to you, who can't be mafia with me (from Rels' perspective). That is why this is important. ooooohhh i was saying from his perspective? like he literally said when he voted we couldn't be scum together, so dropping his case on you to pursue me seemed pretty damn weird at the time Darn, I missed that. Still though, for Rels to townread one of us because we can't possibly be scum together would be unflipped association, and that's bad. I think it makes sense for him to think that marvellosity's reasoning is stronger than his push on me, especially given that he liked my explanation for half of it. I don't think you should hold him to an unflipped association on Day 1?
i'm not?
i'm townreading rels xP
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On October 01 2015 02:35 Damdred wrote:
Why RS?
cause it's super triple level play from a scum player so i think he's just town, tbh lol ><
like yeah he could be trying to pocket me superhard or something but...why?
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On October 01 2015 02:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 02:32 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 01 2015 02:26 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:On October 01 2015 02:20 Damdred wrote:
Not really meta strictly its just how you are approaching the game. But its a bit laughable how you try to get reads on me then complain about broken meta My read on you is not based on meta and it's boring that you and rsoultin are focusing on a thing I'm not accusing you of since the first 6 hours of the game. I've repeatedly said that, I'm getting exhausted from saying that again. I AM NOT SCUM READING DAMDRED FOR HIS REACTIONMaybe in bold people will know And if you say "town GB acts in this particular way and he isn't doing it here" it is meta the point GB is scum damdred LITERALLY NEVER gets mad or pouts as scum in my experience and your little bit of nothing should never outweigh that when you're fully aware he's an emotional robot as scum i'm not saying you're scumreading him for it; i'm saying you ignoring it is scummy cause you know better And you're ignoring that he is well aware of that trait and he may have faked it? Like I tried to do the ADHD last game I was scum? it would be the first time he did it successfully. i'll grant you that you may possibly maybe believe this and you may not be scum for it, but no, damdred isn't faking and it's obvious Okay I will gently ask a possible cop to check him then. Let's discuss possible lynch targets then?
i'm looking into rayn and i'm still not convinced you're town...maybe scott i dunnae he's just kinda on the fringes for me
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On October 01 2015 02:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:Okay guys, this is actually very simple. Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv i hope you are town.
i am gonna try if i am. not mafia. too time consuming. <3 rayn literally said he would not care if he was Mafia. If we look at what he’s done so far, he’s been freewheeling and attacking things that he can remember without much effort. This recent push on rsoul also show how little effort he’s employing. He’s relying on meta which he almost never does and is getting things wrong about what happened in the thread. rayn’s also missed out on several inconsistencies but hasn’t really cared to remember things that have happened in this thread. I asked people to read the argument between rsoul and rayn, because it’s actually a pointless argument where rayn is just trying to nail her down. rayn is Mafia and he doesn’t want to be it and has already said he’s not enjoying the game. #freerayn2015
this isn't a bad read tbh
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mostly narrative but i haven't gotten a strong probing presence from rayn, either
i'll come back after filters
ciao
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eh fuck it
i don't think rayn is mafia either, moosy...lol ><
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now i'm just sad that so many good town players for whatever reason think i'm scum it's kinda depressing
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tbh, even though i did find reads on me despite him saying he wasn't reading me, plus a townread...it's just kinda...super natural how he goes from one thing to the next then narrows in on certain things people said that aren't terribly alignment indicative imo, but rayn and i almost never agree d1 so whatever lol ><
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On October 01 2015 03:49 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, I'm trying to read your filter, but I think you might have posted enough to make that basically impossible at this time.
Why did you change your read on Rels from scum to town?
What do you think about sicklucker's early scumread of J Roc?
honestly his whole discussion with me just really felt like he was actually trying to figure out my alignment? he went back and reviewed everything i said and talked it out with me, and it's easier for scum to do something like scott, gb or even coolio did in that situation
plus i started looking through his filter and it was a lot more involved than i originally remembered it
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On October 01 2015 03:49 coolTLname wrote:
in the nested quote he even states he hasn't read rsoultins post yet hes convinced shes mafia lol..
eh yeah
and he did give reads on me before earlier too but i still think he's town and it's frustrating ><
did you ever say why you were reading truffle town? because your consolidate on gb thing makes no sense at all without a strong read on truffle
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um, regarding j roc @ truffle
i don't know that i remember clearly what you're talking about? was it the double buss thing and sl saying that rayn never busses or...?
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