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On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote: because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why?
like, i say i have suspicions on so-and-so because i don't think he's done anything notable
why do i need to tick off all the things i don't find notable? i was talking to damdy. i hadn't made a case. i didn't vote marv. i was trying to work out my reads
if i made a case, sure...i could see this argument though i'm still not sure that i'd actually do it. i'm not really a case builder
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On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote: because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ???
yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol ><
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like i'm pretty sure i said something about marv just doing semantics arguments which would have been a reference to moosy's case but i didn't specifically outline it? and i'm still not sure why you assume that the only way it makes sense for me to go "he didn't do anything interesting" is by outlining all the boring things?
your reasoning here isn't very solid, rels
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On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote: because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol >< The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it
okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_-
i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol ><
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=47#922
ye it was in response to his post at the top of the page ^^
first two posts
anyway...
gb
yeah like i don't remember so well cause distracted, but he definitely was pretty sideline when you brought this case, marv and i know that was what damdy was concerned about with him earlier
i also don't have a strong townread on him and usually i do by this point when he's town?
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On September 30 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote: because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point why? because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ??? yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol >< The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_- i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol >< yeah you said it was in reference of the vote (and rayn stuff) and not the content
yeah if you read the post the main thing was clearly his response to rayn and had nothing to do with his push on moosy lol >< vote was more afterthoughtish
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On September 30 2015 23:48 Rels wrote: OK rsoultin I will assume you're town I don't think GB or rayn are mafia. rayn because I found him being mafia super easily in personality mafia, and GB 'cause he had the same reads about Trfel than me at the start of the game. Why are they mafia ? I think it's time for coolTLname and Trfel to come answer stuff. And it's time for scott to start doing stuff
well
i find it unlikely that rayn doesn't push a scumread and everything about his post suggested he'd been scumreading me for ages but never did anything to suss out my alignment? that does not sound like a town rayn at all. usually he screams bloody murder, or at least prods to see if his read is right or not
as for gb...gb is super reactive as town. like all over the place reactive. i've seen him approach it as scum a little when filter diving old games, but it's definitely a town tell and it's missing here
also i think that truffle is town, and regardless if gb were town i don't see how he wouldn't get what truffle was doing with his first two posts. the backstory there is that gb was truffle's first coach? or one of his first coaches? and gb tries to teach his students how to start with a reaction post to make reads and get the game started, people participating. that was clearly what truffle was doing (or trying to convince people he was doing) and gb should know that better than anyone, having taught him it
like him not getting that is super odd and i think i mentioned it early in the game
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On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote: the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird.
i agree
like i think your push on me marv was one of the most obviously townie things you've done all game
this if he's wrong i'll push him thing was at best awful
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On September 30 2015 23:53 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 21:13 rsoultin wrote: no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did
a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum
caring = town
reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town When I get to work I'll repost the other things ive noted, but thIs set off bells. So you KNOW I'm a mislynch I see. Rels too? Got it.
no, i know that with a votespread of more than two people besides myself, even if i were scum at least one would have to be a mislynch
hello scott ^^ your timing is interesting
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On September 30 2015 23:55 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:54 rsoultin wrote:On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote: the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird. i agree like i think your push on me marv was one of the most obviously townie things you've done all game this if he's wrong i'll push him thing was at best awful especially as he agreed with me on what i said about youif he agrees with me, my push isn't scummy regardless of what you flip. pushing away from Trfel? what nonsense! so anyone who has a lynch candidate who is not-Trfel is by default scummy? scummyscummy.
ye, that's true lol >< i mean it's gb and he's capable of awful but i don't see how he could have so little reaction to this whole mess, and it sounds a lot like setting you up to push you d2...course i'm not sure he'd actually follow through with it as scum but he might
also gb's read on me this game has been very unclear >< i thought at first he was doing it on purpose with rayn to get a read, but if he wasn't it's super fucking odd that his read on me changes by implication constantly when he's barely talked about me at all
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On October 01 2015 00:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:03 Rels wrote:OK that's what I thought. GB's origin for Trfel's read is not his opening posts but this: On September 29 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote: My bad town read is trfel because hes making a god awful vote 10 minutes into day 1 that alone will never last 48 hours in 1000 years And why won't it last? because i dont even understand it and the day is only 1% over. you will find something else I never understood why people vote 1 minute into a game and then change it 19 times Do you have a read on rsoultin? On September 29 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote: Damdred, why wasn't being town one of the requirements for being your buddy? What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this? No clue, but I was hoping that it would be useful. Ok so what do you make out of his answer? So that's not scummy (related to rsoultin's "GB coached Trfel he should know posts like that are bait") OK actually: Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:On September 29 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote: GB why are you so focused on truffle I find his try hardiness weird I don't understand posting his two opening sayinf he won't be playing because he will be practicing the keyboard, but immediately starts playing. Also, why posting it AFTER game start and not before? These are just weak things, but him asking a question without having a clear objective feels scummy to me. The question he directed to you is typically of someone who saw something scummy and is after some clarification. Instead, he makes nothing out of your answer which indicates he asked just to as, which could simply be scum trying to look like scum hunting So it IS scummy, if rsoultin's "GB should know Trfel does bait post, he teached him" is true
i think anyone who has been coached by GB can confirm? i think GB has also mentioned this in thread probably but i'm not 100% on that; i have a lot of skype convos and context gets fuzzy after awhile
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On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote: scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously >< and this post proves it.
so why haven't you been pushing me all game?
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like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all
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On October 01 2015 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:07 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 30 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote: scum actually does shit with a purpose in mind i mean seriously >< and this post proves it. so why haven't you been pushing me all game? Because i have not read your posts. Is that so hard to understand?
then why are you so sure i'm scum?
solely because i said that damdred's response to you was factually true? it was
you call me scum when i'm town and town when i'm scum ever since you returned to the site lol >< what sort of mental thought process would you have to be employing to simply decide i'm scum and not read my posts, not push me, but support a push on me?
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On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum.
um...what?
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On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. ...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all. So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb. That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that.
you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all
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On October 01 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote: Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.
This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia. @GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ? Hi I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him. The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all" Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely
you've been wrong for exactly these reasons before and whined about it post game
now you're saying that you forgot?
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On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. ...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all.So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb. That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that.
this actually is complete bs lol
you caught me earlier for something else
and prp and i (100% sure on me and pretty sure on prp) only voted you when you fake-claimed
this is actually evidence that i'm not stupid xP
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On October 01 2015 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. ...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all. So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb. That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that. you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all that's because the town was also retarded. that doesn't change the fact YOUR SCUMTEAM AS A WHOLE called me mafia and i caught you all.
why are you lying?
that was a damdy/palmar push
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On October 01 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:15 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 01 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote: like i still maintain there's way more reason for that to come from town than from scum but i get that it's wifom >< i still just have tons of trouble seeing why people would think a complete reverse on marv of all people, without much more lucrative circumstances, is likely to come from scum at all Maybe just because of this. Who the fuck knows, you have fucked up as mafia before by calling me scum. ...or rather, your entire retarded team called me mafia so i caught you all. So yeah, there is your scum motive. People are dumb. That doesn't replace the fact that there is literally zero town motive to do that. you were mislynched so i wouldn't call it comparable at all that's because the town was also retarded. that doesn't change the fact YOUR SCUMTEAM AS A WHOLE called me mafia and i caught you all. why are you lying? that was a damdy/palmar push no it actually was not. regardless of you or anyone else voted for me that was not. and prplhz btw did, which is exactly why i figured out he is mafia.
it was
regardless you're inventing reasons that aren't remotely parallel here simply to demonstrate that scum could reverse a read on marv like that. i agree it's possible but not highly probable
now what makes me scum in your eyes? marv doesn't seem to strongly believe in his case anymore, so why do you?
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