On September 21 2015 02:37 LightningStrike wrote: Isn't a little harder to read stuff on mobile lol. Also you asked someone to kill you because your Husband wants to play LoL why not play with him
Yes, I don't have a choice, I have been limited for time from the off. I am just doing my best with what I have.
As for League, fuck League. I would rather wipe my bum with a cactus than play League. >_<
Back on topic...
Anyways I'm looking into BM right now. I didn't like the early D2 vote on Damdred that I recall offhand before I AFKed.
If anyone else wants to discuss BM in the meantime, that'd be great.
rayn, you said that Damdred loses interest as scum, if you ignored the DT mechanics or pretend they don't exist.
Would you vote Damdred or at least pressure him (irrespective of LS)?
He's been pretty afk.
(right now I'm trying to evalute both worlds of BM which is why I ask - can the push on Damdred make sense - and why did BM vote Damdred when he's looking at an LS mafia world, I see the late vote on LS there too.
Trying to piece that altogether. Either I'm derping, or something really isn't adding up with him.
Not really digging BM's case/push against Rels. I can understand the perspective that him not taking part in the mechanic dicsussion was opportunistic if he AFKed, but the language stuff and the parroting....I mean, he was widely townread based on his play D1 and same manner roughly D2, I can't see the motivation to "steal" towncred.......ehhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I'm going to wait until he gets back in thread. Just meeehhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I can buy Vivax's point that the use of the term was misleading, I saw the exchange between tictock/Rels, but the buddying argument, I remmeber the words used between them was too overly obvious, can't see scum just being too overly obvious about that. Meeehhhhhhhh.
On September 20 2015 23:13 Rels wrote: no one else is spewed town by BM so mechanically speaking two scums are in here: Damdred FF TT HTS
FF scum is no surprise. I really hope inquisitor is dead and Damdred is the last one. I'm pretty sure TT is town and I think HTS is too.
Please say this is a joke. You're already at auto, then? You really think the game ends in a town victory if we lynch bm/dam/me/tt/hts because of association with one person? Here's the thing, mafia always sets me up for the lategame mislynch and doing so here is making me really suspicious.
BM makes a decent point. A 17+ page filter in this not-so-spammy game is ridiculous and makes people like me who are lazy not want to filter dive rels at all. I've done this all while lying in bed so i honestly haven't taken a good look at the actual meat of the cases. I will make breakfast and then reread after, i am hungry
That's what I was looking at, but you basically answered the question anyhow. Alright.
LS, my understanding is you are being lynched for strategic reasons (at least according to rayn) and nothing is going to stop that, judging from the votes.
I think your best bet is to find someone that is a higher probability of being scum than you are. Other than Damdred, I disagree with the lack of check, I get both sides of the story but assuming all the fallen thus far are town and Damdred is one of the three scum, who else is bad in your books?
(1) why aren't you buying into LS's claim (2) what do you make of his push on Damdred (ignoring mechanics) (3) He went full tilt in Himalayas (almost to the point he got in trouble with the hosts) and I'm seeing it here. There's a shittonne I didn't like about him until he explained why he wasn't taking in Rels questioning properly. To expand you are talking about his lack of reads but when the entire bloody game is piling on him, this is how he reacts. Why do you feel this is exclusively mafia LS?
rayn does rage as mafia when his teammates aren't doing well (reference Guardians of the Galaxy when the scumteam had a bad start, I think the same happened in Debuchery as well)
....not sure if I could argue the same thing here though, he does rage when town do poor, a good example of that being Titanic 7.
I strongly prefer 1, with a gap between that and #2 and an even larger gap between that and #3. I mean the play in lynching LS is to prevent the soup kill correct? Lemme check the post....
D2 in general was quite unproductive tbf rayn, it was the weekend. You were in Sweden, others had other things going on. I myself had a window of maybe 3 hours maximum that I could play on the entire weekend.
At least BM is probably not mafia. Didn't get around to checking Tictock though.
I can directly vouch for Fidei's absence Friday night - I was playing dota with him, then, until 3am fact. Saturday he had sport all day, IDK.
I'm just saying RL commitments are NAI. The only thing I'd judge him on would be Sunday night where he prioritises a game that is in 2:1 lylo over here.
The main reason I'd lynch into him is what I do know about his hesitation to play mafia, the fact that I've read most others here as town, barring 1-2 I could be wrong on (previously stated).
On September 21 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am going to try to say this once more.
The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.
Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.
Here is why the lynch is the best: 1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario 2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia 3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION. 4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION. 5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him. The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia. IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.
For reference.
Alright, I think I get it now though. So you do want to prevent the soup kill at the least.
EPT
