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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 15:39 GMT
#372
Alright I'm leaving work soon so I won't be super active until tomorrow. Let me update this:

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
fidei
Dandel Ion

And this:
Town
rayn
Vivax
TT
HTS

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
fidei
BM

Scum
The Shining
LS
Dandel Ion
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 15:40 GMT
#373
On September 16 2015 00:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 00:12 Rels wrote:
On September 16 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
On September 16 2015 00:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
and here i thought with slam out id have a chance at understanding peoples posts, but why cant life just be that simple for once

Are you talking about LS ?

Why are you saying you don't understand someone' posts and then don't explain your own fucking post ?

glad to see we cleared that up

OK this troll is easier to understand.
I'll re evaluate you when you start playing.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 15:44 GMT
#375
It made sense to me. geript hasn't done much beside pushing LS this game, so if she believes geript is capable of bussing this early, she has no reason to townread him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 15:52 GMT
#377
On September 16 2015 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 16 2015 00:44 Rels wrote:
It made sense to me. geript hasn't done much beside pushing LS this game, so if she believes geript is capable of bussing this early, she has no reason to townread him.

Yeah she thinks geript is a good playr (as scum aswell) and then geript does nothing but busses his teammate. In a setup where you don't bus, because bussing is retarded when there are no flips.
makes a lot of sense....

I agree, and I think geript is town. I don't agree HTS' read doesn't make sense though; she clearly stated she thought geript would do weird things like that to get towncred. So if you take that into account, her scumread is logical.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 15:53 GMT
#378
Plus I think she towned down her scumread now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 16:10 GMT
#380
On September 16 2015 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey guys. I didn't actually realise I was in this game until just now, because I never /in'd or confirmed. But anyway, I don't have any time to catch up or play today because I'm in meetings all day and have stuff this evening. Sorry. I'll get back quite late tonight, and will catch up etc then.

for the record James has been active in another game today.

I checked that earlier and he only posted one post at the same time as the excuse. Unless he posted another thing since ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 16:22 GMT
#382
Plus Hts confirmed his excuse is true so its nai.
BTW rayn can you expand on bm now that geript has answered your question ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 16:25 GMT
#383
On September 15 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:47 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:53 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon.

I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.

I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on


I am also kinda waffling on what does that make BM.
I am pretty sure that is alignment indicatice i am just not sure into which way yet.

?? How can this be town indicative ?

geript was BM there when we were talking in TS about our strengths in games?

I don't recall

@rayn does it change your read of BM ?

This
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 17:00 GMT
#385
On September 16 2015 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 01:22 Rels wrote:
Plus Hts confirmed his excuse is true so its nai.
BTW rayn can you expand on bm now that geript has answered your question ?

Not really. I write it off as a null tell.

Then why did you say it was alignment indicative ie not null ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 17:14 GMT
#387
Alright I agree it is nai.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 15 2015 21:16 GMT
#471
Read through the thread before sleeping and I'm happy to see a lot more people talking
Phone posting so won't elaborate until after sleeping:
Bill Murray seems townie
Shining may be cool. In particular I agree with the damdred remark about him applying for grail and not doing shit
The three people in the useful list still needs to do something
Don't know about ls, the recent posts seems townie. I need to re evaluate tomorrow

I know I need to answer stuff (at least one question from ff from the top my head) and I'll do that tomorrow. Good night!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:35 GMT
#516
hello everyone (= rereading carefully what I missed last night
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:44 GMT
#517
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:48 GMT
#519
About BM: he did the same thing as HTS; catching up with the thread and making his reads evolved. His thought process is clearly stated in the thread and understandable. And I loved how he simply said "well I don't have any scumread". =D I'm pretty sure BM is town.
@BM a question though: why did you think rayn was 100% town based on his first posts ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:50 GMT
#520
On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i seriously think BM is town now.
BM i don't think your read on Rels is accurate, i think he is quite obviously town.
I will re-evaluate TT tomorrow, but i still think he is town.
I think FF has a decent chance of being mafia.

well even if i think they might be town i want to break up their buddy buddy circlejerk

why the hate! Come in and be part of it (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:55 GMT
#521
On September 16 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
ULOUP

wowowowowow
I LOVE YOU
This is SOOOOO good =D
... onto the question now

On September 16 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 00:39 Rels wrote:
Alright I'm leaving work soon so I won't be super active until tomorrow. Let me update this:

The useful list of useless people
The Shining
fidei
Dandel Ion

And this:
Town
rayn
Vivax
TT
HTS

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
fidei
BM

Scum
The Shining
LS
Dandel Ion

So Fidei makes an RL excuse in thread and gets put null. It doesn't remove him from the ULOUP though? Is making an excuse alignment indicative?

It is super different. Everybody who is not posting or who has an legit excuse to do so is a null read.
Being useless in the first 24h != scum
Being useless the whole D1 == scum

So in this case, fidei who did not make a single post at the time except his excuse was useless AND null.
Shining who made a weird first post was useless and scum.
And Dandel who is actively being useless is scum.

The ULOUP (this acronym is perfect <3) is just an indication to the people in it that I WILL scumread them at the end of the day if they don't stop being useless.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 07:57 GMT
#522
On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote:
ok Rels is town ~circa page 15

~circa ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 08:03 GMT
#525
On September 16 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
I'm here. Post will probably be sloppy because I'm writing as I'm catching up.

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 18:34 Rels wrote:
Going to grab some lunch so I'll be AFK until later. Here is my brain right now:

Town
rayn
Vivax
TT

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
HTS
fidei
BM

Maybe scum
Dandel Ion

Scum
The Shining
LS

See you all later (=


This post is so easy to make. I said I don't get on much Monday/Tuesday and the game started slow while I was on, with almost no one posting. I'm almost always scummed D1 because I don't like to play it but w.e, I'm used to it. I started the holy grail convo because no one was talking about anything else and I figured the sooner we settle on it, the more info we'd get from people trying to push for it for strange reasons. Better to discuss it now than leave it until the last 12-24h of day phase.

WTF
My reason to scumread you was NOT you being AFK or wanting to discuss something different. I had three reasons to scumread you and they are explained here:
On September 15 2015 16:34 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:38 The Shining wrote:
Hi hi. Are people just scared to post or what? I'm not the martyr so Idk what else to do except start the conversation on the Holy Grail vote.

Who is it going to?

I dislike this post very much for a few reasons. The main one is that this is the first post of The Shining, and there is two different subjects in it:
"The game is slow"
"Let's talk about the holy grail"
First post with different subjects in them means the person didn't just post what he thought, but took the time to make a post. It is scum indicative.

Plus, two questions: the easy way to participate for scum.
Plus, he tries to start a conversation and leaves.

Now your big post is alright, and I like the reasonning on Damdred. But your reasonning (Damdred applied for grail and gtfo) is one of the reasons I scumread you in the first place!
So. You cannot explain the first two reasons I scumread you initially (different subjects in the first post + asking questions in the first post), they're scum indicative for me. It's small though.
Can you explain the third ? How is you starting a conversation on grail then leaving is different from Damdred applying for Grail then leaving ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 08:07 GMT
#527
On September 16 2015 06:20 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i seriously think BM is town now.
BM i don't think your read on Rels is accurate, i think he is quite obviously town.
I will re-evaluate TT tomorrow, but i still think he is town.
I think FF has a decent chance of being mafia.

well even if i think they might be town i want to break up their buddy buddy circlejerk


Your just jealous of what we have

=D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 16 2015 08:11 GMT
#531
Damdred I think it is super weird you're not trying to find town like you did in every other game I played with you. I liked your boldness asking for the grail at the very beginning though.
On September 16 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 16 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
Anyway I'm like 95% sure that my bro shining is scrum he was the first filter I looked at. He is just so... emotionless to a point and he barely reacts to the thread to a point with pretty posts that seem to be structured.


He explained he's not a fan of playing much D1. Did that factor into your scumread or are you just not buying that explanation period?


I've played with shining in a total of probably 60-90 games total. We have played a lot together multiple places.

I know he hates playing early, but he can't hide emotional things as town he explodes at points or he gets super excited but it's missing here.a

Another meta read. I hate them because I can't judge them.
Can someone who knows Shining confirm or deny this ? If this is a lie, Damdred's read is super fake.
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