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On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways. There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%.  yeah that is fucking true why would he do that in a bus situation though | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways. There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%. geript could be pope too if LS is mafia please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:57 Bill Murray wrote: vivax that wouldnt be that bad we are gonna hit mylo if we have odd number kills losing you + cop for 1 red is actually worth it that way it doesnt end up 3 town 1 maf potentially (3 town is worse than 2 in that scenario) you did that with my post how I am fucking turning your idea into a mafia advantage if I have he SAME CONCLUSIONS AS YOU and you didn't do it for the other two things: votecounts and check plan | ||
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As I said, the only time it is scum indicative is if I disform ideas to get my team an advantage And he couldn't prove that he is mafia | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also geript checks me as a wraith about 99 times out of 100. true story. OK that is fucking true ##DeadlineVote LightningStrike | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:03 Vivax wrote: I know that LS' claim is awful. Any claim is awful. But why does rayn acknowledge this in this case and not in the case of an hypotheitcal inquisitor outing Damdred? No he is right LS is lying about geript rayn is very good in this setup, and geript knows it he would 100% visit rayn so rayn has a setup advantage | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:04 LightningStrike wrote: Rels pardon my french but: Pourquoi vous êtes mauvais? lol p: | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote: WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT GERIPT AT THIS POINT? I SWEAR TO GOD I WASN'T EXPECTING PALMAR TO PUT A NIGHT 1 RESULT PM TO ME BUT I FOUND OUT THROUGH THAT PM I WAS VISTED GERIPT....... For your claim to be more believable But geript visits rayn 100% if he is wraith Him not doing so means he wasn't wraith So he was pope and you're claiming his role | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:08 Bill Murray wrote: you're gonna call me mafia for 0 reason when I have a huge case on you? You know only mafia do that to me right? Oh my god, you suck I AM the one with a big case on you (= you even quoted it lol You have nothing Still waiting on you proving I disformed ideas You didn't do it for the cop check You didn't do it for the vote counts You did it for the check claim analysis, and showed I shared your conclusion; so you didn't prove it was disformed | ||
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And this is a very very big thing to fake if he is mafia | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:13 Bill Murray wrote: You have no fucking case on me LOL post the "case" you have on me You don't have to twist ideas to be parroting things for town credit I dont have to do it for any check when you are trying to steal ideas to look town I dont have to do it for vote counts but I could. You didnt analyze grail vote or half of the vote at all. You cherrypicked certain parts of the vote. I havent analyzed the check enough to do it yet but i could easily do it with the other 2 You saying you shared my conclusion is the most credit you have fucking given me for that. YOu didnt even quote my original post you quoted tictock discussing it with me because you wouldnt EVER want to give me credit for the work i've done you are all about credit and the thing is the credit you deserve is none because you are mafia who steals hahaha the thing you don't know is that I do vote counts analysis exactly like that every game And I even suspect TT did one because he liked it in personality mafia. We'll ask him about that | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:14 Bill Murray wrote: Prove u made a case on me LOL ARE YOU SERIOUS YOU QUOTED IT On September 20 2015 19:40 Rels wrote: Now about BM. Town points 1 Tone. BM seem to be able to post freely, and this is town indicative. Mafia points In spoiler Vivax' case against BM. I will take one point from his case. + Show Spoiler + On September 17 2015 22:52 Vivax wrote: Rapid fire posting doesn't make BM town. I don't find his reasoning for talking about my reads over rayn's satisfying. Point being he shouldn't have any reason to compare his reads to mine when I'm confirmed town and turn a blind eye towards rayn like he did. While I'm writing this I'm also suspicious of rayn for the way the two of them haven't been particularly hands-on towards each other. I'm going to pick apart a few of his posts: "Buddying" is something you do when you try to pocket a townie, scum don't need to buddy each other. BM should know that. This post has pretty much contrary opinion to what me and Rayn said about Rels and TT and ends with him wanting to "consolidate" on LS for unmentioned reasons. Here rayn talked against his reads and notice how BM's reads shift towards thinking that Rels and TT might be town. Rayn agrees with FF being mafia. Also interesting wording implying that rayn and me aren't part of that buddy buddy circlejerk when BM is townreading all of us. Kinda minor point but seems like reasoning he just slapped in there. No mention of LS he was willing to consolidate on (2 minutes later he softens that scumread). I have no idea why rayn TRs him. Here BM reaches the point of zero scumreads: So he rereads to find something: And finds something that suddenly makes Rels town... When it has been posted SIX HOURS before he scumread him for the buddy buddy and the list post. Proof: + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: OK let's bring back this little thing. The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard His post at page 15: On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote: I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. On September 16 2015 03:33 Bill Murray wrote: you know vivax and i disagree hard when his 3 town reads are my 3 scum reads thusfar I feel TT and Rels have been buddying and I had a scumread on TT Rels list is something I do as scum and I feel it tries to buy towncred He then goes into Maf wouldnt mess with grail D1 into D1 trying to give grail to TT TT was my original gut i felt like hey this guy is relatively new I dont know if he knows how to play scum but this is what I would imagine his words would read like if he did. I based my interactions off of that thusfar. I could consolidate on LS he might just be nervous and have a decent role but I could easily see him as scum acting the way he does On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote: ok Rels is town ~circa page 15 So yeah, BM is bullshittin 1 Vivax's good point in the case: when first posting and catching up with the thread, we had 4 people more or less forming an initial town circle: TT, rayn, Vivax and I. BM tried to break the circle by mentioning: - TT and I were buddying (which, if we're both mafia, is not even the right term) - saying Vivax's reads were wrong (about TT and I town) - not mentioning that rayn's reads were wrong, even though they matched Vivax' Then, as soon as rayn told him I probably was not mafia, he dropped his scumreads. So what I'm seeing here is BM buddying rayn by: 1. saying Vivax' reads are wrong instead of rayn's, even though they are the same 2. dropping his reads as soon as rayn talks to him 2 BM didn't participate in the check plan (rayn's plan about town deciding the check target). This plan is bad for mafia, so him not participating or mentionning the plan is scum indicative. + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2015 18:40 Rels wrote: Now that plan of directing the cop check is really bad for the mafia and really good for town. So everybody that participated in it will have town points: Maybe the last voters get less points, as at this point it was pretty clear Damdred would be checked though. But they still participated on something that is bad for mafia, which would be unnatural if they were mafia. 3 BM's first post in D2 was him scumreading and voting Damdred. What's bad about it is that the town sentiment about Damdred D1 was that we would be waiting for the check to happen to decide on him. I don't understand him immediately jumping on Damdred, before everybody had a chance to post. Now he has switched to LS, being the last person to sheep the town sentiment. Maybe this is indicative of a scum bus if LS is mafia. + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2015 12:54 Bill Murray wrote: Damdred has been failing to scumhunt while easily tossing out "matter of fact" townreads His one attempt at scumhunting (Shining) he flipflopped on I can easily see Damdred + FF being scum together ##Vote Damdred On September 20 2015 12:39 Bill Murray wrote: I changed my vote to LS Conclusion Maybe scum. The only thing keeping me scumreading him 100% is his tone. So: I want someone who has played with him before to tell me if he is capable of having this "I don't care here is my thoughts" tone if he is mafia. | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:16 Bill Murray wrote: LOL you're going to say you invented vote count analysis now cool story bro the TT part is just a guess, we'll afk him | ||
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now if that is false, HTS is mafia. But someone would have said it already if it was false if that is true, LS is telling the truth | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:20 Bill Murray wrote: you didnt even call me scum for this post and most of this is misinformation you have been soft pushing me the entire game and the minute someone else called me scum you jumped at the opportunity to fake a case on me False. My first post after you started posting for real: On September 16 2015 06:16 Rels wrote: Read through the thread before sleeping and I'm happy to see a lot more people talking Phone posting so won't elaborate until after sleeping: Bill Murray seems townie Shining may be cool. In particular I agree with the damdred remark about him applying for grail and not doing shit The three people in the useful list still needs to do something Don't know about ls, the recent posts seems townie. I need to re evaluate tomorrow I know I need to answer stuff (at least one question from ff from the top my head) and I'll do that tomorrow. Good night! On September 20 2015 22:20 Bill Murray wrote: i have already refuted this point by point the case i made on you you have not refuted because you are not realizing what i am saying you say you would have to make information disinformation but the point isnt that you would make it disinformation but that you are stealing it in the first place to make your filter look good I have said it multiple times. Your argument is "I'm stealing people ideas to make myself look good" And it is NOT scum indicative, because if it is a GOOD idea then it is good for the town to amplify it The only way is IT scum indicative is that if I disformed the idea into something bad for the town | ||
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On September 16 2015 16:48 Rels wrote: About BM: he did the same thing as HTS; catching up with the thread and making his reads evolved. His thought process is clearly stated in the thread and understandable. And I loved how he simply said "well I don't have any scumread". =D I'm pretty sure BM is town. @BM a question though: why did you think rayn was 100% town based on his first posts ? LOLOL | ||
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I'm sure LS is town 'cause he is unable to lie. If he is mafia, HTS is too. ##DeadlineUnvote ##DeadlineVote Bill Murray | ||
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On September 20 2015 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: SO WHAT? DOES HE CLAIM MAFIA IF HE IS MAFIA OR WHAT? It's not like LS has never called any townie mafia in his mafia games. What the fuck is this bullshit. rayn YOU said LS dodged questions cause he has difficulties lying And now you're saying he's lying about: - his claim - geript being wraith - geript visiting him Has LS ever fakeclaimed ? | ||
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