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slam i am quite disappointed in your mspaintlessness. 
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On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause
why not noobking?
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On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking.
that's not actually true.
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On September 05 2015 12:53 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause why not noobking? Because noodling actually believes wha the is saying.
what makes you think that?
like i am going to be honest here. when you started your catch-up i was pretty sure you were town because you showed enthusiasm towards the game (which you usually lack as scum) and you were saying stuff that was reasonable and you were focusing on stuff that was actually relevant at the start of the game (like the reads on me/yamato).
However, the more you went on you derived away from ACTUALLY RELEVANT stuff in the game (which i would think is MY posts (if you TRULY think i am town, and you are town - because that's what you do when you are town).
So, why do you suddenly unfocus on my posts while calling me town?
You do not usually do that.
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On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia.  Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.
I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam.
He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it.
Which i totally agree with it.
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On September 05 2015 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause why not noobking? Because noodling actually believes wha the is saying. what makes you think that? like i am going to be honest here. when you started your catch-up i was pretty sure you were town because you showed enthusiasm towards the game (which you usually lack as scum) and you were saying stuff that was reasonable and you were focusing on stuff that was actually relevant at the start of the game (like the reads on me/yamato). However, the more you went on you derived away from ACTUALLY RELEVANT stuff in the game (which i would think is MY posts (if you TRULY think i am town, and you are town - because that's what you do when you are town). So, why do you suddenly unfocus on my posts while calling me town? You do not usually do that. 1. Demotivation (dying to "be gone get lynched" is really demotivational) 2. I was focusing on you, but you were pretty wrong while noobking kept himself consistent and had *meh* but acceptable defenses of me that made sense (people were scamming me based on ONE POST! Would I even be that seriously terrible as scum? Am I that stupid to not know that such severe lurking is not going to result in survival?) At your first question, noobking strikes me as genuine. He is not cleared town but he makes sense to me. He could be pocketing me but o don't see why I would be a worthy pocket target.
This does not make a whole lot of sense.
I do not think you are mafia because of what you have posted. I think you could be mafia because of what you ahve NOT posted, things i would THINK YOU DO POST as town.
If you think i am wrong, you clearly express it in your way, always. Why do you not do it here without someone asking you to do it?
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On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high.
Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out.
That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.
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On September 05 2015 13:08 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause why not noobking? Because noodling actually believes wha the is saying. what makes you think that? like i am going to be honest here. when you started your catch-up i was pretty sure you were town because you showed enthusiasm towards the game (which you usually lack as scum) and you were saying stuff that was reasonable and you were focusing on stuff that was actually relevant at the start of the game (like the reads on me/yamato). However, the more you went on you derived away from ACTUALLY RELEVANT stuff in the game (which i would think is MY posts (if you TRULY think i am town, and you are town - because that's what you do when you are town). So, why do you suddenly unfocus on my posts while calling me town? You do not usually do that. 1. Demotivation (dying to "be gone get lynched" is really demotivational) 2. I was focusing on you, but you were pretty wrong while noobking kept himself consistent and had *meh* but acceptable defenses of me that made sense (people were scamming me based on ONE POST! Would I even be that seriously terrible as scum? Am I that stupid to not know that such severe lurking is not going to result in survival?) At your first question, noobking strikes me as genuine. He is not cleared town but he makes sense to me. He could be pocketing me but o don't see why I would be a worthy pocket target. This does not make a whole lot of sense. I do not think you are mafia because of what you have posted. I think you could be mafia because of what you ahve NOT posted, things i would THINK YOU DO POST as town. If you think i am wrong, you clearly express it in your way, always. Why do you not do it here without someone asking you to do it? I lost your meaning in this.
basically dumbed down, when you think i am town you sheep me and pay attention to what i say and comment on it.
here you do the opposite.
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On September 05 2015 13:11 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause why not noobking? Because noodling actually believes wha the is saying. what makes you think that? like i am going to be honest here. when you started your catch-up i was pretty sure you were town because you showed enthusiasm towards the game (which you usually lack as scum) and you were saying stuff that was reasonable and you were focusing on stuff that was actually relevant at the start of the game (like the reads on me/yamato). However, the more you went on you derived away from ACTUALLY RELEVANT stuff in the game (which i would think is MY posts (if you TRULY think i am town, and you are town - because that's what you do when you are town). So, why do you suddenly unfocus on my posts while calling me town? You do not usually do that. 1. Demotivation (dying to "be gone get lynched" is really demotivational) 2. I was focusing on you, but you were pretty wrong while noobking kept himself consistent and had *meh* but acceptable defenses of me that made sense (people were scamming me based on ONE POST! Would I even be that seriously terrible as scum? Am I that stupid to not know that such severe lurking is not going to result in survival?) At your first question, noobking strikes me as genuine. He is not cleared town but he makes sense to me. He could be pocketing me but o don't see why I would be a worthy pocket target. This does not make a whole lot of sense. I do not think you are mafia because of what you have posted. I think you could be mafia because of what you ahve NOT posted, things i would THINK YOU DO POST as town. If you think i am wrong, you clearly express it in your way, always. Why do you not do it here without someone asking you to do it? I see it Breshke already said that. I WAS NOT CAPABLE OF POSTING I HAD TO DEPOSIT A CHECK THE BANK WAS NOT CLOSE TO HOME I HAD TO GO TO RABOBANK, THERE LIES THE GREAT COMPANY ACCOUNT OF ALAKAMASTER (your boss is your master and you are a willing slave) AND THE DINERO WAS MUY FUERTE GRANDE Y IMPORTANTE DID I SERIOUSLY JUST DO THAT THE MONEY WAS BIG AND STRONG AND IMPORTANT LOL
but you literally caught up, and again:
On September 05 2015 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:08 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:50 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Slam real question is whatcha gonna do? Vote Breshke for badly sleeping your word of mouth and FoS GB for sleeping without cause why not noobking? Because noodling actually believes wha the is saying. what makes you think that? like i am going to be honest here. when you started your catch-up i was pretty sure you were town because you showed enthusiasm towards the game (which you usually lack as scum) and you were saying stuff that was reasonable and you were focusing on stuff that was actually relevant at the start of the game (like the reads on me/yamato). However, the more you went on you derived away from ACTUALLY RELEVANT stuff in the game (which i would think is MY posts (if you TRULY think i am town, and you are town - because that's what you do when you are town). So, why do you suddenly unfocus on my posts while calling me town? You do not usually do that. 1. Demotivation (dying to "be gone get lynched" is really demotivational) 2. I was focusing on you, but you were pretty wrong while noobking kept himself consistent and had *meh* but acceptable defenses of me that made sense (people were scamming me based on ONE POST! Would I even be that seriously terrible as scum? Am I that stupid to not know that such severe lurking is not going to result in survival?) At your first question, noobking strikes me as genuine. He is not cleared town but he makes sense to me. He could be pocketing me but o don't see why I would be a worthy pocket target. This does not make a whole lot of sense. I do not think you are mafia because of what you have posted. I think you could be mafia because of what you ahve NOT posted, things i would THINK YOU DO POST as town. If you think i am wrong, you clearly express it in your way, always. Why do you not do it here without someone asking you to do it? I lost your meaning in this. basically dumbed down, when you think i am town you sheep me and pay attention to what i say and comment on it. here you do the opposite.
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On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.
Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia?
Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.
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On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia? Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense.
Slam, i still want you to answer this. This post:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.
I don't see why you would say this:
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He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?
Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. Doesn't this mean noobking would have to be mafia in order to Breshke be mafia? Otherwise the "throwing off" makes very little sense. I can't see that world. If noob was scum with bresh he would not defend me, he would vote me. Or he would tell bresh to stfu
... does not really answer anything.
Basically you are saying that "rayn went -BAM, votes for n00bking. That threw Breshke off".
Now if you assume Breske is mafia for that -> trying to find a different target because he got "thrown off" that has to mean n00bking is mafia, because otherwise there is no reason for Breshke to be "thrown off".
Like your argument is "Breshke is mafia because he got thrown off for rayn suddenly voting for a townie".
It makes literally no sense.
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On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?
That's not really wise. If he thinks i am mafia he should argue why i am mafia instead of arguing why other people are mafia.
Which he isn't doing. And i have already answered every single point he has brought up on me. He doesn't even argue about that..
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On September 06 2015 00:53 boxerfred wrote:
Hello guys, just chiming in to say "yo I'm here". Currently reading up the thread, I got like 1-2 hours time as of now. Are there any questions directed to me in a direct way? Really willing to contribute here but I don't have much time until monday.
There are arguments against me, noobking and alakaslam atm.
Can you go read them and give your opinions on them?
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GlowingBear your vote isn't very good.
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On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? That's not really wise. If he thinks i am mafia he should argue why i am mafia instead of arguing why other people are mafia. Which he isn't doing. And i have already answered every single point he has brought up on me. He doesn't even argue about that.. Yes, but at times n00bKing can get a bit too focused on one person which becomes the lynchpin of his argument. I just want to know where he would look if he thought that you weren't Mafia for one moment. Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.
I have a problem with what i just asked Alakaslam, i kinda can understand his other stuff. Except that when he was catching up he somehow completely ignored me, which i would think he would not do as town.
idk about GB, he's been better after the start, but i think his vote is terrible. I don't think scott is mafia, he is a low-volume poster and gets lynched for it in almost all the games for no reason. His post was good.
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On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier?
Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum.
Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally:
- happy slam is town
- sad slam is mafia
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On September 06 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 06 2015 02:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rayn were u harboring legit suspicions on Alakaslam earlier? Yes, i genuinely think when he posts jsut before the game start and when the game starts makes one post that's "sad" he is scum. Obviously this in not 100% certain thing but generally: - happy slam is town - sad slam is mafia ohhhkay, then i actually think slam is town because of this: Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam. Agree. I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect
I don't understand, how does that have anything to do with what i said?
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Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything.
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ehh i don't get why CoughingHydra calls Breshke mafia(?) for his case on Slam, because anyone who has read the thread and actually thinks why people say what they do would know it's in fact my case.
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On September 06 2015 02:13 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Superbia said he's gonna be afk for saturday so i don't think that means anything. yeah but he wasn't even super townie when he was here
I think he was the most towniest person besides you when he was here.
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