Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 5

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:25 GMT

#408

On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy? what are your reads other than rayn?

i am actually degrading moosy to null jsut because he should answer you instead of talking about other stuff atm.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:26 GMT

#409

On September 05 2015 11:22 CopCake wrote:
ok noobking

how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim?

you aren't getting an answer that helps you in any way with this.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:28 GMT

#411

On September 05 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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wait what question?

you have to look that up by yourself. you have been asked to answer at least three times already...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:29 GMT

#413

!pay attention to the game you are playing

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:34 GMT

#418

On September 05 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:

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Meh, I don't know. I'm not sure about you. I really dislike your pushes on me and Breshke because I think they were out of place. You should know what I was trying to do. Well, Breshke does. No use talking about it.
I think the biggest problem is your read on yamato. It's off. It's still too early to call him town + I didn't like his opening, felt forced.

The fact that i am re-evaluating and being reasonable should be pretty telling in the first place.
I often look into the wrong places early on. It does not make me mafia, ever.

yamato is town. call me scum for it but he is town and you're gonna feel really dumb after the game if you cannot trust me on that.
I am probably the best person on this forum to read him (besides marvellosity).

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:38 GMT

#422

MoosyDoosy which towngame(s) of his are you referring to?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:47 GMT

#426

On September 05 2015 11:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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On September 05 2015 11:36 GlowingBear wrote:

On September 05 2015 11:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:

On September 05 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:27 GlowingBear wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On September 05 2015 10:12 GlowingBear wrote:
You don't think is reasonable to call you Mafia for displaying bad arguments in thread, at least in my POV?

Also, consider I'm town. I'm having very different reads from you. I think Moosy doosy is Mafia and I really don't understand how can you town read him.
Do you understand why I think Moosy doosy is Mafia?

I am sorry if you think that way but i have displayed zero bad arguments in thread.
My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good.
My argument on noobking is also good.

You are (probably unintentionally) misrepresenting my "argument" on Breshke. So please go back and read what i answered to Moosy. You know i tend to use certainties, if i say "zero reason" it does in fact mean "zero reason in my opinion (at this point)". I push people to contribute, and i pressure them, that's why i use such wording. You should know it, you have played with me enough.

I don't undersntad why you think Moosy is mafia. Can you clarify? Or do i need to go read somethign again?

Rayn, I'm actually not sure now because his latest posts have good content in them, but his early posting were all fluff and what you could say "post just to post". It's what Breshke did, multiplied.

Read his filter and you'll see what I'm talking about.

It is an attitude thing. I have played on VS where people tended to post nothing important on D1 before i started playing there. You can usually tell if people are just "hanging around" and most likely town, or mafia who try to say something even semi-game related.

I thought that was what Breshke was doing (the latter), but i was probably wrong.
I don't see anything wrong in Moosy's early posting.

If you have something you feel like i should re-look in a different light please let me know.

I understand what you were saying about Breshke. I just think that on early game you can't pick a single post and assume the guy is simply "posting just to post".
But if you see the guy doing it in a series of posts, then this would be a hard evidence.

Let me show you posts that I think illustrates this better:

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On September 05 2015 09:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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Have you ever listend to Eminem - Guts Over Fear?

He's definitely lost skill but I like his message better nowadays.

On September 05 2015 08:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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can u be serious plzerino

On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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9. like u can just scroll thru instead of asking miss.

On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l.

On September 05 2015 08:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eminem - No love

oldie but goodie

On September 05 2015 08:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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I was being a funny punny.

Zebrahead is actually pretty good too tbh. I like "Falling Apart" the most.

On September 05 2015 08:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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HI NOOBKING OMG I LOVE U

On September 05 2015 08:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing n00bKing. Just a question: Are you mafia?

Like, the last post, especially. Why he asks that to noobking? What answer does he expect?

mmm...I consider myself the best person in this game to read n00bKing rite now so i know what im doing sir. and everything else i've been doing actually does make sense too.

btw have u listened to Eminem - Mockingbird? it's so sad but gr8 m8. kinda funny because the bird got its name for sounding like its mocking people when it's actually not.

I don't like Eminem.

What did you get from his answer then?

im guessing this was the question.

1. eminem doesn't like u.
2. i already said this but n00bKing is town. he's acting like his town game rite now although it would help if u guys stopped antagonizing him. like don't worry he's probably working on a big case right now because that's what he does. he asks a bunch of questions then writes a big case. the reason why rayn probably doesn't know this is because he was in the game where n00bKing was scum and didn't do this.
3. also, the point of me asking him was to set a rapport. the biggest tell in n00bking's scum game is how he posts. he posts more friendly/has more rapport as a scum. however, what he did was respond and then got to business straight away. this leads me to believe him as a town as he focused straight away after acknowledging me. and it's natural for him to acknowledge me because i've been in all of his past games and we've done some good work together.

Why can't noobking do point 3 as mafia?

n00bking is one of those players that are really bad at faking things as mafia. it was my mistake to not realize it in retrospect but i've learned from that game.

I am actually asking because from what i remember it's not the thing of "being bad at faking stuff".
It's the thing of being unable to understand if the people who know something better (in this case other people - like me/yamato/slam here, or like Rels in the last game) say something there is probably something behind it.

Like if people who know certain people better than he does call them mafia/town, he is jsut incapable of even aknowledging the fact he could be wrong and the rest of the people are right (which btw goes against this):

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:53 GMT

#428

Moosy i see a certain difference in his play (and in the last game) here and in his play on those games.
He as mafia picks a target and pushes it into oblivion.
He as town, well see my last post and turn it around. He actually listens to other people.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:54 GMT

#430

On September 05 2015 11:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
His filter before I pointed out that he was more friendly was all fluff and relative happiness. I'm not seeing any of that here which leads me to believe that he is town.

I do not consider being friendly / not friendly a tell.
Especially for a player who has played like three games, he would most likely be friendly regardless of alignment in his earlier games.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:57 GMT

#435

On September 05 2015 11:54 CopCake wrote:
Rayn soneji killed you in the other game.

I am laughing so hard.

well he is terrible at mafia.

It's like on TMF, i got vigshot by scum on D1, the obvious conclusion is "rayn shot himself therefore he is mafia".

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 02:58 GMT

#438

tell him he is just as bad as nordlending

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:00 GMT

#441

On September 05 2015 11:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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OK I DON'T LIKE COPCAKE RITE NOW.

nah it doesn't mean anything.
it's about the game i was in aswell with her and the deadline was now (while i replaced out already).

thank god there are actually legit hosts on TL, i couldn't play mafia otherwise.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:04 GMT

#445

On September 05 2015 12:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:

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that was the most obvious attempt at pocketing. copcake is playing up the noob/buddy ante really hard rite now.

no we actually talked about this last night, we were getting warnings for "being rude" while acting reasonably (like compare it to how i am acting here in this game, aggressively but reasonably). Then the hosts threaten to modkill me amongst other people when a people start saying things like "this player here sucks this guys dick" and.... ugh...

And yeah the hosts go "if we modkill these people then rayn gets modkilled aswell". haha

I told them to keep their jack and quit.

it's not alignment indicative man.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:06 GMT

#452

hey slam can you make an mspaint picture of how town you are in this game?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:08 GMT

#455

On September 05 2015 12:07 CopCake wrote:
Why am I not asked cute stuff like that?

Either way I dont like how moose is acting towards me, not like I care as a person lol but like he is trying pretty hard to find me mafia when I am not.

he doesn't get the relation of things you say.
it doesn't make him mafia.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:09 GMT

#457

On September 05 2015 12:07 CopCake wrote:
Why am I not asked cute stuff like that?

you should act scummy first, so i can then ask you to do that.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:11 GMT

#460

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hey slam is not mafia but i still want the mspaint so shhhh.......

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2015 03:14 GMT

#463

On September 05 2015 12:12 Breshke wrote:

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Dick move analysis

If they were scum together i feel the idle chit chat would be in the scum QT not thread. as i said not that relevant but could be useful later.

Oh we would totally do that in thread if we were both mafia.